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Response to pipoman (Original post)

Mon Dec 15, 2014, 12:09 PM

1. I think you have a very generous view - on the blue side

of the civilian/public servant divide.

Your description minimizes the serious effects of "human error", (fatal effects - permanent effects), and doesn't account for how many of the incidents are occurring and the lack of data collected to even recognize that there is a problem.

Your frame of discussion tends to put the onus upon the public to look for/create "solutions" - when I would suggest that the first step lies with police departments to acknowledge there is a problem with reacting so fast and out of so much seeming anger that consideration of alternatives to shooting (within 2 seconds of arrival in the Tamir Rice case) doesn't seem to occur.

I don't think attempts to have a conversation will go terribly well when the framing of the discussion is rather distorted towards viewing the police (or self-appointed neighborhood watch guy) actions - while not attending to the severity of the outcomes and the frequency with which these tragedies are happening (not to mention the dis-proportionality with which these victims are people of color.)

But hey - good luck with the conversation.

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