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Zorra

(27,670 posts)
4. Primarily working outside the system appears to me to be our only option.
Mon Dec 15, 2014, 03:25 PM
Dec 2014

Things really are far worse than they were in 1968.

Our primary direct action power, at this time, lies in not giving the shitheads our power. They need to control us in order to control us, they need us to run their unequal, unjust profit system in order for them to maintain and increase their power.

The way for us to manifest our power is to simply not participate in their game. I see organizing and engaging in a massive general strike and boycott, and flash protests as our only real option for bringing about change at this point. If we are simply staying home, not buying anything, not driving, not buying anything, not paying any bills, not participating in the system at all, we can collapse it. The billionaires will rapidly lose billions of dollars. The system will collapse, and there will have to be a plan in place that will enable the 99% to survive tolerably until our demands and goals are met.

When I was participating in Occupy actions, it occurred to me that the major flaw in sustaining our action was exposing ourselves to police brutality, and that eventually this brutality would force us out of the parks and off the streets. And naturally, it did. it's not rocket science, there simply are not enough people in the US who are willing to risk getting beaten up and imprisoned to support and sustain a non-violent movement that is countered by authorities who can commit acts of violence against protesters with impunity.

We tried to shut down the ports on the west coast, but by that time the media had perfected its propaganda attack brainwashing of the general public, and they successfully turned public opinion against us at this time. Here at DU, the mouthpieces for the status quo were busy denouncing us, in every way possible, day after day. This is something we will have to deal with if we organize, and act.

However, if we are simply staying home and shut down the talking heads, taking some extended family holiday time as a form of protest and non-violent resistance, it would be quite a while before the 1% owned government mandated that the police could legally force us out of our homes and go back to work. By the time they got to that point, terminal damage would already be done to the system.

If we could sustain the strike/boycott long enough, the PTB would be forced into negotiation long before things got to the point where the police would be forcibly taking people from their homes, and forcing them to go back to work.

Two weeks of a focused, dedicated, truly massive general strike and boycott would collapse the markets. The overall effect on the economy would be devastating; we would have to have some type of hopefully workable plan in place in order to ensure continuity of supply lines after transition. If necessary, the 99% might have to assume control of the factors and means of production. etc. Drastic, necessary, critical change will require pain and sacrifice at first; there's no way around this.

A non-violent revolution of this nature would take long term careful planning,critical mass support, massive numbers of participants, and dedicated organizers.

I believe you are correct, starting to organize now is what will make non-violent revolution successful when circumstances deteriorate to the point where enough people realize, and are done with, putting up with having no other options for ending the corruption, injustice, inequality, and oppression that is imposed upon them by the PTB with impunity.

This is a simple idea for developing complex plan. If anyone has a better idea, I'd love to hear it. Whatever the case, it is crystal clear that things must change, because our government is publicly supporting torture with impunity, and the torturers are practically bragging about their accomplishments in the torture arena on public television nationwide.

And not only have our leaders not taken any action whatsoever to punish the ghouls who sanction and commit acts of torture, they make excuses for them similar to justifications such as "they were just doing their job".

Organization.

From Fire to Autonomy: Zapatistas, 20 Years of Walking Slowly

On January 1, 1994, the NAFTA free trade agreement entered Mexico with vigor, promising foreign investment and economic prosperity at the expense of the plunder of natural resources. NAFTA is largely credited for flooding the Mexican market with subsidized corn from the United States, which decimated farmers' livelihoods and provoked massive migration to the United States. Two years prior to NAFTA's implementation, former President Carlos Salinas opened the floodgates to land privatization by reforming Article 27, which had protected communally owned land known as ejidos, created during the Mexican revolution. Thus, the introduction of NAFTA provided the perfect context for the uprising of the indigenous guerillas who formed the EZLN.

However, the 1994 uprising was not a spontaneous endeavor. Twenty years before, Marxist-inspired guerillas arrived in the Lacandon jungle in Chiapas to unite with members of marginalized indigenous communities. In 1983, they formally created the EZLN. They drew inspiration from Emiliano Zapata, who fought in the Mexican revolution in the early 20th century, declaring that the land belonged to those who worked it. Continuing his revolutionary tradition, the EZLN rebelled to demand work, land, shelter, food, health, education, independence, democracy, freedom, justice and peace for all the Mexican people. Their ideas rapidly gained traction as a confluence of indigenous cosmo-vision, Marxist philosophy and progressive theological thought to counter dispossession and poverty. The EZLN germinated the seed of "Ya Basta - Enough Already!"

Chiapas, is rich in flora and fauna, containing between 50 and 80 percent of Mexico's biodiversity, water reserves and mineral resources. However, the richness of natural resources has never translated into prosperity for the population, especially the indigenous people who often live in extreme poverty in marginalized communities. It is estimated that 40 percent of the state's population speak an indigenous language, and the EZLN is composed of Tzotzil, Tzeltal, Chol and Tojolabal communities. The Zapatistas denounced their marginalization in the first declaration of the Lacandon Jungle: "We have been denied the most elemental preparation so they can use us as cannon fodder and pillage the wealth of our country. They don't care that we have nothing, absolutely nothing, not even a roof over our heads, no land, no work, no health care, no food nor education."

In the communiqué released by the Zapatistas to celebrate the 20th anniversary, Subcomandante Marcos described the motivations that prompted their rebellion: "It was not the struggle to survive, but a sense of duty that put us here, for better or for worse. It was the necessity to do something in the face of millennial injustice, the indignation we felt was the most overwhelming characteristic of humanity."

http://www.truth-out.org/news/item/21427-from-fire-to-autonomy-zapatistas-20-years-of-walking-slowly


"The global power of the financial centers is so great, that they can afford not to worry about the political tendency of those who hold power in a nation, if the economic program (in other words, the role that nation has in the global economic megaprogram) remains unaltered. The financial disciplines impose themselves upon the different colors of the world political spectrum in regards to the government of any nation. The great world power can tolerate a leftist government in any part of the world, as long as the government does not take measures that go against the needs of the world financial centers. But in no way will it tolerate that an alternative economic, political and social organization consolidate. For the megapolitics, the national politics are dwarfed and submit to the dictates of the financial centers. It will be this way until the dwarfs rebel . . " ~ Marcos



Let Justice Flow ...... [View all] H2O Man Dec 2014 OP
+ a million. mmonk Dec 2014 #1
Thanks a million! H2O Man Dec 2014 #16
... napkinz Dec 2014 #2
Thanks for this! H2O Man Dec 2014 #17
he's on THE LIST ... napkinz Dec 2014 #23
Thanks for the link. Very useful to share with the uninformed . . . Journeyman Dec 2014 #26
That man is monster. All the more so because he attempts to cloak his sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #20
That "gang of six" H2O Man Dec 2014 #49
I believe in redemption also, but these people, and I would add some more, though sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #77
k&r... spanone Dec 2014 #3
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2014 #18
you're welcome. spanone Dec 2014 #19
Primarily working outside the system appears to me to be our only option. Zorra Dec 2014 #4
Refuse to participate. Hit the rich where they listen, their money stream. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #6
Refuse to participate. Hit the rich where they listen, their money stream. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #7
What an excellent post, Zorra. I wanted to highlight a few things, but people sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #21
Very interesting, thoughtful response! H2O Man Dec 2014 #24
I agree with all of that. Having an effective "organization" in place and accurately anticipating Zorra Dec 2014 #60
I agree with this completely as it was more than obvious how frightened they sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #68
Great points. H2O Man Dec 2014 #69
The MSM could not tolerate the 'no leader' concept. One of the reasons why sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #70
Excellent post, needs to be it's own OP. :) 2banon Dec 2014 #37
Definitely! H2O Man Dec 2014 #50
I make it a point, my dear H20 Man, to always read what you have to say... CaliforniaPeggy Dec 2014 #5
Ain't dat da trut. malthaussen Dec 2014 #12
Well, thank you! H2O Man Dec 2014 #28
They, the uber-rich, are working very very hard at promoting the lie that they are not the ones Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #8
Right. H2O Man Dec 2014 #29
But we cannot move away from the problem. The R.E. are like invasive kudzu, they invade everywhere Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #30
Exactly! H2O Man Dec 2014 #32
You, H2O Man, are so lucky to have children who listen to you and are willing to pick up the torch. Dont call me Shirley Dec 2014 #43
, blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #9
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2014 #33
Right on Pat. woofless Dec 2014 #10
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2014 #34
Kicked and recommended! Enthusiast Dec 2014 #11
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2014 #35
Thank you, H2O Man Thespian2 Dec 2014 #13
Right. H2O Man Dec 2014 #36
Again Thespian2 Dec 2014 #47
Prosecute ALL War Criminals!! AzDar Dec 2014 #14
I agree. H2O Man Dec 2014 #39
Kick! Rec! BobbyBoring Dec 2014 #15
That was the H2O Man Dec 2014 #44
Thank you, H20 Man for grokking the infinite potential of each human being. Octafish Dec 2014 #22
I was lucky H2O Man Dec 2014 #45
Question Authority voteearlyvoteoften Dec 2014 #25
Right! H2O Man Dec 2014 #51
Beautiful quote. He appears to have been an amazing man. You were fortunate to have known sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #78
Another great post from one of DU's finest posters. Thanks H2O Man. Scuba Dec 2014 #27
Thank you very much! H2O Man Dec 2014 #52
'One of DU's finest posters'! I remember when I first came here, H20 Man sabrina 1 Dec 2014 #79
Thanks sabrina. You're another of our finest. Scuba Dec 2014 #81
Damn, you can write. riqster Dec 2014 #31
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2014 #53
Great Post, H2O Man, what happened with the case against that bad cop? Did the judge let him post 2banon Dec 2014 #38
No bail. H2O Man Dec 2014 #54
interesting, do you ya think the atty was tipped him off regarding demands to deny bail? 2banon Dec 2014 #75
a most heartfelt k and r niyad Dec 2014 #40
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2014 #55
I am a feeling that in years to come all these people responsible for sammy750 Dec 2014 #41
I sure hope so. H2O Man Dec 2014 #57
K&R shanti Dec 2014 #42
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2014 #58
You so rock, sir. byronius Dec 2014 #46
I am glad H2O Man Dec 2014 #59
What Should Be Done? Beowulf42 Dec 2014 #48
That's both a H2O Man Dec 2014 #63
Thank you for this... rosesaylavee Dec 2014 #56
Good! H2O Man Dec 2014 #64
... rosesaylavee Dec 2014 #82
I'm kicking this, and hoping someday John Yoo gets his butt kicked. Thank you, H2O Man Hekate Dec 2014 #61
Thanks! H2O Man Dec 2014 #65
Torture and war crimes have been around for a long but the advocates of torture in America are unique gordianot Dec 2014 #62
Interesting. H2O Man Dec 2014 #66
K & R Liberal_Dog Dec 2014 #67
Thank you! H2O Man Dec 2014 #72
Yoo is horrible underpants Dec 2014 #71
I agree! H2O Man Dec 2014 #73
K&R!!!!!!!!!!! burrowowl Dec 2014 #74
Didn't read it. calimary Dec 2014 #76
K&R! G_j Dec 2014 #80
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