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AndreaCG

(2,331 posts)
14. Hmm. You would fit in well on the Sunday talk show circuit
Sun Dec 21, 2014, 05:16 PM
Dec 2014

They don't do nuance well either anymore. My mind immediately recalls Ralph Nader in 2000 saying there is no difference between Bush and Gore. So ok, say all the Florida votes were indeed counted and Gore becomes the president. Would 9-11 have happened? Well, maybe, but the briefing paper Bin Laden determined to strike in the US probably wouldn't have been ignored, because it was the Clinton/Gore administration which ordered the study. And if the bombing happened despite taking steps to ensure it wouldn't, the Saudi royal family members whose citizens largely were the terrorists wouldn't have been escorted out of the US before the embargo on air travel was lifted and not properly questioned, because Gore was not personal friends of the Saudis due to shared family businessinterests in oil. And there would have probably been no Iraq war, because Richard Clarke stated the Bush administration planned how to start a war with Saddam Hussein even prior to 9-11, obviously not because he caused 9-11 but because Bush wanted to avenge his father's failure to reign him in, and even more because Cheney's Halliburton could make umpteen billions in such a war. President Gore would have had no such motivation to lie about the weapons of mass destruction and Saddam causing 9-11 not the Saudis.

That's just two discrete examples of how a Gore administration would have likely differed from the Bush one. Not even touching domestic policies and the environment. If you can't differentiate the substance and subtleties between two different people, parties or other groups you're going to fall back in the "well they all do it so a pox on both houses" canard. I don't know what else to say. I have a feeling this post will not budge you from your previous opinions. C'est la vie.


Motivated reasoning. Look it up. unrepentant progress Dec 2014 #1
Ok I looked it up AndreaCG Dec 2014 #4
Of course you do. Seeking Serenity Dec 2014 #11
Gee you're not in the least bit smug and superscilious AndreaCG Dec 2014 #12
Because I don't like double standards. Seeking Serenity Dec 2014 #13
Hmm. You would fit in well on the Sunday talk show circuit AndreaCG Dec 2014 #14
You're putting words in my mouth or inferring things I didn't say Seeking Serenity Dec 2014 #19
This Sub_Thread Is Hilarious ProfessorGAC Dec 2014 #23
No chance that your implying things.... daleanime Dec 2014 #30
What a load of pure, unadulterated horseshit. Besides the right's refusing to abide KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #31
Both sides do it, both sides breathe air, other than that, there is NOTHING the left and the right NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #51
Right wing and intellectual are two words that never onecaliberal Dec 2014 #2
Here's a good example of how their minds (if one may use the term) operate. Shortly after KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #34
^^^ That onecaliberal Dec 2014 #44
it's easier to be a lazy racist. spanone Dec 2014 #3
Because if they weren't they'd be Liberals MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #5
Hunter College HS AndreaCG Dec 2014 #6
D'oh! My bad. MannyGoldstein Dec 2014 #7
No offense taken AndreaCG Dec 2014 #8
McVeigh vs. Islamic terrorism YarnAddict Dec 2014 #9
Because they know they're wrong and don't care. True Blue Door Dec 2014 #10
This ^^^^^^^ treestar Dec 2014 #49
That rings funny. ananda Dec 2014 #15
McVeigh self identified as agnostic m-lekktor Dec 2014 #16
He did not brand his actions as Christian... Orsino Dec 2014 #25
McVeigh self identified as agnostic many years after his crimes Major Nikon Dec 2014 #37
Actually he was still nominally a Christian AndreaCG Dec 2014 #46
He identified himself as an agnostic in a letter written shortly before his execution Major Nikon Dec 2014 #57
Covering all his bases. : ) AndreaCG Dec 2014 #58
Because they believe dishonesty is the norm. kentuck Dec 2014 #17
Why is anyone ever intellectually dishonest? LWolf Dec 2014 #18
"Why is anyone ever intellectually dishonest?" Seeking Serenity Dec 2014 #20
Yes. LWolf Dec 2014 #21
There are the few democrats who are little better than republicans AndreaCG Dec 2014 #47
It's less an argument LWolf Dec 2014 #50
No I agree AndreaCG Dec 2014 #59
Right now I'm looking at a Facebook post claiming President Obama.... Tommy_Carcetti Dec 2014 #22
Teaparty and the like live in a universe where Obama is a Muslim waiting to bomb their NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #54
Because the facts are usually not on their side. dawg Dec 2014 #24
It's fear-driven reaction, not an intellectual process. DirkGently Dec 2014 #26
They have no intellect. muntrv Dec 2014 #27
Political beliefs are a lot like religious beliefs. LiberalAndProud Dec 2014 #28
cognitive dissonance only lets in facts that support their delusional world view on point Dec 2014 #29
No, she *is* a stupid woman. Ikonoklast Dec 2014 #32
You may have a point AndreaCG Dec 2014 #48
"defended our use of torture" 0rganism Dec 2014 #33
cognitive dissonance explains intellectual dishonesty Cosmic Kitten Dec 2014 #35
In the words of John Maynard Keynes some 90 years ago: KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #36
They lie because they cannot win if they stick to the truth. They applegrove Dec 2014 #38
Exactly.. if they weren't dishonest then they would be wrong all the freakin time.. SomethingFishy Dec 2014 #39
Here's a Berkelely study that basically explains it. Zorra Dec 2014 #40
I love threads like this Tsiyu Dec 2014 #41
They have to be because their beliefs are based on lies, racism and sick Randian fantasies. workinclasszero Dec 2014 #42
When facts negate/deny your beliefs, you have two choices DFW Dec 2014 #43
Well, my late right-wing grandfather thought that Obama was a "far-left radical".. YoungDemCA Dec 2014 #45
Maybe not rich but sounds like a classic Bircher -right age group...was he a Bircher? lunasun Dec 2014 #56
Because that is the Nature of a Cult. misterhighwasted Dec 2014 #52
so Christian terrorist are way better than Muslim terrorist? lol SummerSnow Dec 2014 #53
the same words mean different things to them. take the "golden rule", for instance. unblock Dec 2014 #55
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