HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » General Discussion (Forum) » Neil deGrasse Tyson Troll... » Reply #12

Response to n2doc (Original post)

Thu Dec 25, 2014, 03:27 PM

12. It's ridiculous to say Newton "actually wasn’t born on December 25"

The calendar when he was born showed it as December 25. The calendar when he died still showed it as December 25. It wasn't until 25 years later that England came into conformity with the rest of Europe.

Some people who were alive when the shift happened did some rejiggering of their birthdays. That's why we celebrate George Washington's birthday on February 22 instead of February 11. (Or used to until they created an artificial "Presidents' Day" instead for the convenience of business.) But Washington was something of an exception -- and trying to do the same thing retroactively to Newton just seems like a mean-spirited way of getting a dig in at Tyson.

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/explainer/2006/01/whats_benjamin_franklins_birthday.html

On Tuesday, Jan. 17, the city of Philadelphia celebrated Benjamin Franklin's 300th birthday. According to the Boston Globe, Franklin was actually born on Jan. 6, 1706, but that was before the colonies switched from the Julian to the Gregorian calendar. When Great Britain updated to the new system by skipping 11 days in 1752, Franklin dutifully moved his birthday. Did everyone change birthdays in 1752?

No. Most people were happy to keep their original dates. The Gregorian calendar had been in effect for most of Europe since the 16th century, when Pope Gregory XIII issued a papal bull that established the new system. Not everyone went for the idea right away, and Great Britain held out for 170 years. (The Church of England was particularly resistant to the proposal from Rome.) Some people protested when Parliament finally made the change. Posters were drawn up saying ,"Give us back our eleven days."

Franklin supported the change from the start. "Be not astonished," he wrote in his Almanack, "nor look with scorn, dear reader, at such a deduction of days, nor regret as for the loss of so much time …" Other prominent Americans supported the new system; George Washington updated his own birthday from the old Feb. 11 to the Gregorian Feb. 22. Even so, the majority of early Americans held on to the birthdays they'd always used.

Reply to this post

Back to OP Alert abuse Link to post in-thread

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 89 replies Author Time Post
n2doc Dec 2014 OP
True Blue Door Dec 2014 #1
Plucketeer Dec 2014 #15
Jackpine Radical Dec 2014 #16
Plucketeer Dec 2014 #30
hifiguy Dec 2014 #72
FirstClassTicket Dec 2014 #40
hifiguy Dec 2014 #73
tecelote Dec 2014 #46
dawg Dec 2014 #2
Enthusiast Dec 2014 #8
nxylas Dec 2014 #42
merrily Dec 2014 #51
calimary Dec 2014 #66
hifiguy Dec 2014 #74
Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #3
amuse bouche Dec 2014 #10
Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #22
amuse bouche Dec 2014 #48
Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #50
amuse bouche Dec 2014 #53
Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #58
Gore1FL Dec 2014 #60
Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #61
Gore1FL Dec 2014 #68
Thinkingabout Dec 2014 #69
merrily Dec 2014 #78
amuse bouche Jan 2015 #89
NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #4
amuse bouche Dec 2014 #11
NoJusticeNoPeace Dec 2014 #20
amuse bouche Dec 2014 #49
merrily Dec 2014 #52
demigoddess Dec 2014 #5
Overseas Dec 2014 #6
hatrack Dec 2014 #7
Diclotican Dec 2014 #9
LineReply It's ridiculous to say Newton "actually wasn’t born on December 25"
starroute Dec 2014 #12
F4lconF16 Dec 2014 #43
oldandhappy Dec 2014 #13
defacto7 Dec 2014 #14
cyberswede Dec 2014 #38
whathehell Dec 2014 #45
seveneyes Dec 2014 #17
951-Riverside Dec 2014 #18
defacto7 Dec 2014 #19
Initech Dec 2014 #21
Skittles Dec 2014 #23
eridani Dec 2014 #24
former9thward Dec 2014 #32
ErikJ Dec 2014 #25
phil89 Dec 2014 #70
NaturalHigh Dec 2014 #26
LiberalElite Dec 2014 #29
okasha Dec 2014 #34
LiberalElite Dec 2014 #55
merrily Dec 2014 #80
okasha Dec 2014 #81
mmonk Dec 2014 #27
Paulie Dec 2014 #36
JI7 Dec 2014 #28
Tobin S. Dec 2014 #31
Nye Bevan Dec 2014 #35
Tobin S. Dec 2014 #44
FrodosPet Dec 2014 #33
MisterP Dec 2014 #37
Bad Thoughts Dec 2014 #39
Adrahil Dec 2014 #57
Cha Dec 2014 #41
7962 Dec 2014 #47
0nirevets Dec 2014 #54
merrily Dec 2014 #56
gregcrawford Dec 2014 #71
merrily Dec 2014 #77
gregcrawford Dec 2014 #83
Peacetrain Dec 2014 #59
Fred Friendlier Dec 2014 #67
maced666 Dec 2014 #85
Beach Rat Dec 2014 #62
FiggyJay Dec 2014 #63
Silent3 Dec 2014 #64
DhhD Dec 2014 #65
malaise Dec 2014 #75
hunter Dec 2014 #76
hatrack Dec 2014 #79
Skittles Dec 2014 #82
maced666 Dec 2014 #84
maced666 Dec 2014 #86
closeupready Dec 2014 #88
closeupready Dec 2014 #87
Please login to view edit histories.