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AtheistCrusader

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183. Can you point to a post where I say what he did was legal or moral?
Mon Apr 23, 2012, 03:50 PM
Apr 2012

You'll be looking for a long time, just to warn you, not that you would actually try it.

From what I can tell the apologists value "gun rights" over human life. morningfog Apr 2012 #1
Its not about guns, its about entitlement. Zimmerman felt entitled...... marble falls Apr 2012 #3
I don't disagree, but why does it seem most of the defenders/apologists/concern-ers morningfog Apr 2012 #9
NRA and gun manufacturers strive to scare the shit out of the public. jerseyjack Apr 2012 #15
Going to check that movie out. thanks...n/t zeemike Apr 2012 #19
I just added it to my queue duhneece Apr 2012 #232
um, I'm thinking that there is a difference between blueamy66 Apr 2012 #180
It isn't about gun rights obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #63
Apologists have no place on a jury. xtraxritical Apr 2012 #80
Actually Trayvon DID belong in the neighborhood. His father--who is black--lived there! Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #2
you and I understand that CatWoman Apr 2012 #4
I know, and that's because they want to make excuses for Zimmerman's behavior to Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #5
It's the father's grilfriend who lives there pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #6
O.K., thanks for the correction, but you're right: Trayvon did belong in the neighborhood. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2012 #7
It's the girlfriends house but the Father lives with the girlfriend. vaberella Apr 2012 #12
Doesn't matter one whit...I ride my bike through neighborhoods I can't claim rustydog Apr 2012 #269
Even if absolutely NO ONE connected to Trayvon lived in that neighborhood.... LynneSin Apr 2012 #22
Yep. ronnie624 Apr 2012 #69
DURec KG Apr 2012 #8
No need even for a trial. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #10
Do you feel like explaining that? LaurenG Apr 2012 #13
What's to explain? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #16
and why waste keystrokes CatWoman Apr 2012 #18
So you natually agree that a trial is a waste of time. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #20
no CatWoman Apr 2012 #23
The mob generally does not like the mirror. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #24
nor does the NRA mob Whisp Apr 2012 #28
Not sure the NRA has stated an opinion either way. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #34
so marshall gaines Apr 2012 #57
"Help me or I'll shoot" CatWoman Apr 2012 #58
Was that in the transcript? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #66
might as well be CatWoman Apr 2012 #122
So he has to be ruled guilty. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #65
So what you are Meiko Apr 2012 #71
Guilty brush Apr 2012 #79
I think that is a Meiko Apr 2012 #107
No, the poster did NOT say that HangOnKids Apr 2012 #90
I didn't put any words in anyone's mouth Meiko Apr 2012 #111
Tip, when asking for clarification, you say " I am not sure I understand, can you explain?" HangOnKids Apr 2012 #120
OK Meiko Apr 2012 #283
More Assumptions From You HangOnKids Apr 2012 #295
well marshall gaines Apr 2012 #164
The message will be based on the facts at trial. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #87
This isn't a mob. ronnie624 Apr 2012 #70
Do you think it's ok to cast vile aspersions upon people who urge caution AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #89
No I do not. ronnie624 Apr 2012 #116
Is it? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #125
Years ago, ronnie624 Apr 2012 #137
Possibly true. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #145
I anxiously await the trial. n/t ronnie624 Apr 2012 #149
I am not an apologist for Zimmerman, but how do you know that Zimmerman JDPriestly Apr 2012 #273
I see an obvious and relevant different between those who urge caution and those who defend LanternWaste Apr 2012 #143
That's the thing, I don't see anyone 'defending', and I don't see anyone like the OP qualifying AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #146
Would that it was the only form it takes, but alas no... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #171
If my eyes were closed, I wouldn't be able to read your post, now would I? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #174
You are keeping things into perspective. So far it looks bleak for Zimmerman, but we have to let our The Wielding Truth Apr 2012 #147
Ok so here's the scoop LaurenG Apr 2012 #25
So you agree that a trial is a complete waste of taxpayer dollars? Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #27
Have you not heard the dispatchers tape like the rest of the world has? LaurenG Apr 2012 #30
I have. And that is not in it. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #31
Here is a transcript LaurenG Apr 2012 #35
But the actual words 'stand down' weren't there Kingofalldems Apr 2012 #40
:) nt LaurenG Apr 2012 #43
That's quite a forceful command. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #44
Get over yourself. He was told they didn't NEED him to do that LaurenG Apr 2012 #45
But they did not command him to do anything either way. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #47
"we don't need you to do that" noiretextatique Apr 2012 #101
but not as forceful as CatWoman Apr 2012 #124
Not forceful, but certainly not open to interpretation, either. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #144
You edited this and you still got it wrong LOL HangOnKids Apr 2012 #95
You got me. Swype. Good one? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #97
Yeah, Snake, we KNOW - a sociopath showed years ago he shouldn't be ALLOWED blm Apr 2012 #64
I am pissed. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #91
There it is RZM Apr 2012 #109
I said even if you GAVE Zimmerman the punch to the face he's still an irresponsible gun owner blm Apr 2012 #132
I think I asked you this upthread but AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #153
But the fact that, knowing he had a gun, Zimmerman decided to follow Trayvon Martin JDPriestly Apr 2012 #274
Stop being rational and jump on the Zimmerman-is-clearly-a-murderer bandwagon! Vattel Apr 2012 #185
What he is clearly: an irresponsible gun owner with mental problems blm Apr 2012 #250
Sorry, but, I have no sympathy for a guy who feels he needs to use a gun against an unarmed teen who blm Apr 2012 #126
I have no qualms with your interpretation. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #127
Wow - a scared kid being followed IS what happened. No MAN or gun owner with the blm Apr 2012 #130
So you were there? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #150
I would be okay if he beat the shit ut of Zimmerman obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #204
That's not how the law is written. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #215
Here it is - fully JonLP24 Apr 2012 #238
True. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #241
That is how it's written obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #253
Oh, much more nuanced than that. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #259
+1000 apparently, young black males cannot be afraid of creepy white men with guns noiretextatique Apr 2012 #196
Can you point to someone in this thread suggesting such a foul thing? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #198
yes, read the thread eom noiretextatique Apr 2012 #207
So, you can't. Ok. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #216
do your own work eom noiretextatique Apr 2012 #268
Clearly you don't understand, the burden of proof lies with the one making the claim. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #278
I'm sure you apply this standard in all situations. U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #280
I do. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #282
so noble U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #284
On This Like White On Rice, Sir, These Selfless, Noble Types.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #286
Oh, you can't possibly do worse than the people who accused me of being a friend to AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #287
and courageous U4ikLefty Apr 2012 #290
But we do know how the confrontation started Oilwellian Apr 2012 #170
Doesn't answer an enormous number of questions AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #172
If a gun owner can't take even a punch in the face from a teen without drawing his gun and shooting blm Apr 2012 #177
Your attitude would make any defense attorney smile. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #178
I don't give a shot what you have to say - I'm on a message forum where we post what WE think blm Apr 2012 #179
Can you point to a post where I say what he did was legal or moral? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #183
And who said that? leftynyc Apr 2012 #94
that being the only inference you are able to make from the OP says quite a bit more about you than LanternWaste Apr 2012 #139
initially there was apparently NO NEED FOR AN ARREST!!!! Skittles Apr 2012 #182
Investigating officer submitted a formal recommendation of charges to the DA. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #200
Where has anyone suggested that? morningfog Apr 2012 #272
It Emerges, Ma'am, From That Miasma Of The White Right's Mind In Which Blacks Are A Privileged Class The Magistrate Apr 2012 #275
Personally I believe the NRA has a lot to do with what is being posted on line the last few TBF Apr 2012 #11
Sure the nra has some influence madokie Apr 2012 #26
I don't buy the "it's human nature" crap - TBF Apr 2012 #36
Whatever madokie Apr 2012 #41
That's fine TBF Apr 2012 #72
+1 freshwest Apr 2012 #208
Right on Cat madokie Apr 2012 #14
I appreciate that there are DUers here that enjoy gun ownership and want to protect... LynneSin Apr 2012 #21
I totally agree with you madokie Apr 2012 #29
We DUers who own guns aren't the ones defending him obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #67
And what, exactly, about the 'gungeon' are you suggesting? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #92
I believe obamanut2012 was referring to this-- KansDem Apr 2012 #151
Yes, I know what the Gungeon is. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #154
I am suggesting what I am suggesting obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #203
Fair enough. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #205
And cowards chasing 'kids' that look suspicious. nt Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #162
+1 freshwest Apr 2012 #188
I fail to see how this was "in cold blood" Recursion Apr 2012 #32
Whatever you think madokie Apr 2012 #38
Maybe we're meaning different things "in cold blood" has a specific legal meaning Recursion Apr 2012 #53
Stand Your Ground Laws = Legalized Human Hunting LynneSin Apr 2012 #17
Not really. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #93
Trayvon's family wouldn't Skittles Apr 2012 #271
Care to back that up? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #281
True Enough, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2012 #33
No shit. enki23 Apr 2012 #37
Hi Enk CatWoman Apr 2012 #49
OP is spoiling for a fight... and she's standing her ground! Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #39
Some have been PPRoni'd pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #42
Help a poor billionaire and define "PPR" for me Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #46
PPR = Posting Privileges Revoked pinboy3niner Apr 2012 #48
thank God!! CatWoman Apr 2012 #51
oh schucks fascisthunter Apr 2012 #68
It appears to me "you" are the one spoiling for a fight CatWoman Apr 2012 #50
Tooshay, my arch-nemisis! Bruce Wayne Apr 2012 #54
"Help me or I'll shoot" CatWoman Apr 2012 #59
I completely understand your feeling shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #52
Nope, but DonCoquixote Apr 2012 #55
I'm with you 100 percent--- trumad Apr 2012 #56
word, Tru CatWoman Apr 2012 #60
It's as if a part of them is saying, "There but for the grace of ecstatic Apr 2012 #61
Damn straight!!! WI_DEM Apr 2012 #62
I don't agree with what he did TomClash Apr 2012 #73
This is as an unsurprising condition, as it is poorly understood stupidicus Apr 2012 #74
let's not, and say we did hfojvt Apr 2012 #75
What a load of shit. Zimmerman has a POLICE record as an aggresive thug saras Apr 2012 #76
"I suppose hfojvt Apr 2012 #84
not with you: you believe the implausible" zimmerman's version of events noiretextatique Apr 2012 #112
it seems to me hfojvt Apr 2012 #222
Not so much reading minds as it is reading obvious tells. LanternWaste Apr 2012 #148
otherwise known as hfojvt Apr 2012 #211
Yes JonLP24 Apr 2012 #244
that's not much of a description hfojvt Apr 2012 #292
Ridiculous JonLP24 Apr 2012 #297
I think this is the most illiberal thread I've seen. newrocker Apr 2012 #77
Only If Your Definition Of Liberal, Sir, Is 'A Man Who Won't Even take His Own Side In A Quarrel." The Magistrate Apr 2012 #82
leave "liberal" out of it paulk Apr 2012 #83
Post removed Post removed Apr 2012 #85
What Grace What Style What Class HangOnKids Apr 2012 #99
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #160
But she is not a juror but a citizen like many others that are... Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #169
I've yet to see only one apologist, and he/she is on every thread, loudsue Apr 2012 #78
Would You Be Referring To This Fella, Ma'am? The Magistrate Apr 2012 #81
I would be, Sir... loudsue Apr 2012 #108
Thought You Might, Ma'am: Been Having a Bit Of Low Sport With Him This Morning.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #115
You got that link yet? Been about half a working day. Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #206
Damn, Sydney: You Are A Glutton For Punishment The Magistrate Apr 2012 #214
Somehow I didn't think that you would have it. TTFN. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #218
Amazing: People Looking For Laughs Should Follow The Link In My 115 Above The Magistrate Apr 2012 #221
I encourage them to follow it too. Thanks! nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #226
As Observed, Kherido, You Are a Glutton For Punishment The Magistrate Apr 2012 #230
Whatever you say. Anyone ever tell you that you remind them of Bert Lahr? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #231
Fewer Than Have Suggested You Resemble Peter Lorre, Son.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #234
Doubtful. Both were great though. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #235
And You are Not, So There Is Not Really Any Comparison, Sweetie The Magistrate Apr 2012 #236
I think its great that you think I am sweet, but I am a very happily married man. nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #239
That Is Not What Your Wife Says, Honey The Magistrate Apr 2012 #252
... Son of Gob Apr 2012 #258
Do tell? nt Snake Alchemist Apr 2012 #260
+1 obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #254
I hae not heard that phrase for ages..love it! dixiegrrrrl Apr 2012 #159
Right on, CW. Cleita Apr 2012 #86
If Zimmerman had never confronted Trayvon no crime would have been committed by either. Kablooie Apr 2012 #88
I've been chastized for saying we should give him a fair trial and wait for all the facts 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #96
+1 AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #100
i an more interested in justice for Tayvon Martin and his family noiretextatique Apr 2012 #102
I don't think anyone is getting justice by trying Zimmerman in the media 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #104
oh please.... as if what we say has anything to do with the results of this case fascisthunter Apr 2012 #110
Ever heard of a tainted Jury pool? 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #113
really.. good, I hope Zimmerman goes to jail fascisthunter Apr 2012 #114
As a private citizen I don't care what you think 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #117
then you don't need to worry about what we here say, do you? fascisthunter Apr 2012 #119
Sigh 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #123
And There Are Plenty Of Venues Where Zimmerman Is Being Praised As A Hero And Defender Of Right, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #118
That neither of those preconceived notions have any place in a court of law? 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #121
And This Is A Court Of Law, Sir? The Magistrate Apr 2012 #129
"If there is to be tainting, it had better come from both sides" 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #131
So You Are Only Taking Your Act To Left Sites, Then, Fella? The Magistrate Apr 2012 #135
I am joeglow3 Apr 2012 #141
Animal Instincts AND Mob Mentality? Say It Ain't So, Joe, Say It Ain't So.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #142
You can add maturity level of some, as well. joeglow3 Apr 2012 #161
You Head On Down Here And Spread Sweet Reason And Maturity, Joe: Be Sure And Bring Gum.... The Magistrate Apr 2012 #219
Same logic my 3 & 6 year old children use joeglow3 Apr 2012 #220
Perhaps You Should Learn From Them, Fella: If They Actually Do Use Logic, You Might Pick Up How To The Magistrate Apr 2012 #223
My convictions are not based on the actions of others joeglow3 Apr 2012 #227
Any Of Them Felonies, Joe? Always Nice To Meet a Fella With Convictions The Magistrate Apr 2012 #228
Most foul. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #156
No, Sir, It Is Where You Should Acknowledge No One Gives A Damn What You Think Of Them The Magistrate Apr 2012 #217
No worries. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #225
ask casey anthony about that frylock Apr 2012 #186
Hence, all of our opinions and discussions (including, but not limited to yours and mine), are merel LanternWaste Apr 2012 #152
justus system noiretextatique Apr 2012 #189
Did the police bungle it? AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #155
You're not alone. nt Skip Intro Apr 2012 #167
Oh yes... playing the 'fair trial' card and Gitmo... and waiting patiently for a Hitler comparison. Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #176
Exactly -- Casey Anthony's trial is a perfect example obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #210
Exactly -- because it was a blonde child it mattered Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #229
It's not my logic obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #251
I see your point clearly now and apologize for 'jumping the gun' on you... no pun... Lost-in-FL Apr 2012 #263
So if it worked out ok in some other instance that means it's a good general policy? 4th law of robotics Apr 2012 #296
the entitlement of some people knows no end noiretextatique Apr 2012 #98
Exactly BumRushDaShow Apr 2012 #138
yep...the only saving grace is noiretextatique Apr 2012 #191
Exactly! K&R whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #103
zimmerman will have a more than fair trial because of the sanford police department's failure noiretextatique Apr 2012 #105
The facts are clear enough already DaveJ Apr 2012 #134
i agree...and his excuses are pathetically transparent noiretextatique Apr 2012 #192
True enough. Someone needs to go after the bloody cops. vaberella Apr 2012 #181
indeed noiretextatique Apr 2012 #193
Zimm's own admission that he "didn't know whether (Trayvon) was armed" librechik Apr 2012 #106
And, if you thought they were armed, why chase them??? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #213
Warning - Graphic language NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #128
+ 1000 abelenkpe Apr 2012 #133
+1000000000000000000000000000 noiretextatique Apr 2012 #195
Almost every one of them have been TSd. Rex Apr 2012 #201
All I ever wanted were charges and a fair trial. JohnnyRingo Apr 2012 #136
I am terrified that the state has over-reached in this case, going for Murder 2. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #163
manslaughter is also covered in the charges as I recall TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #277
If it is, it's not in the affadavit. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #279
from what I understand it's automatic TorchTheWitch Apr 2012 #294
That might explain why this didn't happen in the Anthony trial. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #298
Only a court of law may do that, hence, no one has... LanternWaste Apr 2012 #173
Believing in things like due process, evidence and fair trials does not a Zimmerman apologist make. Skip Intro Apr 2012 #140
Everyone I know of here wants due process, evidence and fair trials NNN0LHI Apr 2012 #157
Well I keep seeing DUers who defend those things Skip Intro Apr 2012 #166
Regardless of whether anyone on the board does or does not have "all the facts", LanternWaste Apr 2012 #175
right...so all the hand-wringing about a "fair trial" for the murderer noiretextatique Apr 2012 #199
Perhaps you'd care, then, to define "Zimmerman Apologist" Skip Intro Apr 2012 #267
making statements like "it's not illegal to follow someone" frylock Apr 2012 #187
Bullshit. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #190
awwwwwhhhhh did someone get their wittle feewings hurt? frylock Apr 2012 #233
I didn't see anyone else who stated it in this thread prior to your post. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #237
it most certainly does: it is blaming the victim, plain and simple noiretextatique Apr 2012 #197
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #158
If you see me in the neighborhood or anywhere else my PSD is on my side. ileus Apr 2012 #165
Excellent! Phlem Apr 2012 #168
CORRECT Skittles Apr 2012 #184
Killing a child in cold blood is never acceptable and Zimm will go to jail Rex Apr 2012 #194
Hate to spoil the parade but from this limpets perspective...that asshole might walk free opihimoimoi Apr 2012 #202
true...he may walk from the criminal charge noiretextatique Apr 2012 #212
Depends. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #224
100% correct malaise Apr 2012 #209
probably 2 foolish people made 2 foolish mistakes karnac Apr 2012 #240
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #243
How pretty! karnac Apr 2012 #245
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #246
Actually quite true karnac Apr 2012 #247
This message was self-deleted by its author devilgrrl Apr 2012 #257
Now your thread makes more sense JonLP24 Apr 2012 #248
So, Trayvon Martin was a fool and made an error in his judgment? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #255
With you on this one. AtheistCrusader Apr 2012 #289
So Trayvon made the mistake of going to the store and walking home? neverforget Apr 2012 #270
And had the police arrested Zimmerman right away and charged him, would he be a pariah now? Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #288
CatWoman, you never disappoint! Iris Apr 2012 #242
Zimmerman is a loser but there's a legal system for a reason... progress2k12nbynd Apr 2012 #249
Gosh, insulting Al Sharpton, and for what reason? obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #256
De Rigueur For These Poseur Types, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #261
Yup obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #262
I Do Not Much Like That One Myself, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2012 #264
That's a good post obamanut2012 Apr 2012 #265
A person doesn't have to be guilty of a crime to be an ass hole Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #291
I will never forget.... ProudProgressiveNow Apr 2012 #266
I've read many aplogist's posts on this subject. shimonitanegi Apr 2012 #276
Spot on! Quixote1818 Apr 2012 #293
Right on catwoman. DevonRex Apr 2012 #285
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