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branford

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65. I'm unsure about your ultimate point.
Mon Dec 29, 2014, 04:56 PM
Dec 2014

Assuming, arguendo, that you are correct about police more easily being able to shield one another from crimes (which is most certainly not given), are you then stating that's it's acceptable to infer that all of the nearly one millions American police officers are malfeasants or have or will shield other officers who commit crimes?

If so, as I stated before, such broad generalizations will then inevitably be used by Republicans and other opponents of police reform to similarly paint minority youth with broad stokes, using very clear but still incomplete and misleading data, and justifying many of the racist beliefs and actions of this statistically tiny number of officers.

See if your local PD has a civilian ride along program _Blue_ Dec 2014 #1
Right now she won't even eat in the same restruant a cop is in. diabeticman Dec 2014 #2
don't let her go near a pig without a lawyer easychoice Dec 2014 #11
I think you kind of missed the point of the OP... nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #5
No, I think Blue just doesn't agree with the OP's point of view whathehell Dec 2014 #29
I'd rather live in a world without cops, but that's just me. Like you I have had good and MillennialDem Dec 2014 #47
You find the good and bad argument 'stupid'? whathehell Dec 2014 #48
I'm not a bro. And I just said the argument is usually phrased in a stupid way - ie MillennialDem Dec 2014 #53
Neither am I, but going to to more substantive points.. whathehell Dec 2014 #56
Ok. MillennialDem Dec 2014 #59
I appreciate your civil response.. whathehell Dec 2014 #83
hahaha Boreal Dec 2014 #19
I've participated in numerous police ride alongs in NYC and Washington, D.C. branford Dec 2014 #23
Nope Boreal Dec 2014 #24
The context of the interaction effects how they present themselves JonLP24 Dec 2014 #26
If you're interested, branford Dec 2014 #28
So, if all police had Public Cameras we can ALL "see policing from their perspective" Sunlei Dec 2014 #74
I often had to sign strict NDA's for these "controlled public visits" branford Dec 2014 #79
When a cop calls 'you expletive piece of shit' to your face JonLP24 Dec 2014 #25
I have one friend who is a retired cop and she was called worse than that, whathehell Dec 2014 #49
how about we just record the police at work 24/7 and watch those public recordings. Sunlei Dec 2014 #64
That's a great idea. branford Dec 2014 #68
We Americans have a Right to observe our Gov. at work. From the Federal level to the local police. Sunlei Dec 2014 #71
Wow. That is certainly not a suggestion one often hears from liberals. branford Dec 2014 #73
IMO, Cameras are simply an extension of Freedom of the press. Sunlei Dec 2014 #76
There are a few bad/scared apples. My bet applegrove Dec 2014 #3
Wouldn't the few bad apples be terrified of being exposed? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #13
+1 nt Live and Learn Dec 2014 #16
Noble cause corruption is common JonLP24 Dec 2014 #27
I don't know from apples, but what I've noticed with strawberries Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #60
Yes. People need to be dynamic in their interactions. applegrove Dec 2014 #99
Well, she's right about one thing. LuvNewcastle Dec 2014 #4
As an autistic person I am terrified of cops. Odin2005 Dec 2014 #6
You might find that if you stopped referring to people you've never met branford Dec 2014 #17
Holy sh*t! Do my eyes deceive me?! pablo_marmol Dec 2014 #18
thank you Duckhunter935 Dec 2014 #31
Or better yet... truebrit71 Dec 2014 #44
Absolutely and I don't think the poster or anyone else here whathehell Dec 2014 #57
Wow, you're justifying someone getting hurt for thinking the wrong thing? CreekDog Dec 2014 #46
If that's how you're interpreting my post, the problem lies with you. branford Dec 2014 #58
you added an 's' to "asshole pig". unblock Dec 2014 #54
Yup. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #61
The "asshole pig" referred to by the poster branford Dec 2014 #62
Please show which one of these fine peace officers is not... truebrit71 Dec 2014 #78
Every one of the officers in the video could be an "asshole pig" branford Dec 2014 #84
I think I understand what Oden meant. Not all police are even "decent at reading human disabilities Sunlei Dec 2014 #82
I think you are being kind. branford Dec 2014 #85
I think you're being a tad overly optimistic here. And I'll just leave it at that. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #101
"SC Autistic Man Assaulted and Tasered for Walking Down the Street While Black" Comrade Grumpy Dec 2014 #87
I saw the story before it hit DU, and was waiting for its inevitable arrival. branford Dec 2014 #89
People on here know some real shit stains joeglow3 Dec 2014 #7
Yep pipoman Dec 2014 #8
You are known by the company you keep. jeff47 Dec 2014 #33
Assuming he is aware of it and chooses to do nothing joeglow3 Dec 2014 #95
I know where she's coming from. Warpy Dec 2014 #9
+ 1 everything you said - nt Boreal Dec 2014 #21
+2 nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #103
Can't trust the cops. No way. No how. blkmusclmachine Dec 2014 #10
What is it you want to do? Ino Dec 2014 #12
With all due respect, you and your wife really need to meet many more police officers. branford Dec 2014 #14
The difference is those teachers aren't getting away with murder. (nt) jeff47 Dec 2014 #34
No, they're getting away with rape, assault, drug dealing, and most horribly, branford Dec 2014 #35
And police get away with those, and murder. jeff47 Dec 2014 #38
Deflecting? Really? branford Dec 2014 #42
The difference is not 'they purportedly alone commit heinous crimes'. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #63
I'm unsure about your ultimate point. branford Dec 2014 #65
You may infer whatever you want. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #70
Well, then I'll ask straight out. branford Dec 2014 #75
I believe some percentage of them will. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Dec 2014 #81
Well said. n/t nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #104
The problem is your argument about police is not a small minority jeff47 Dec 2014 #91
We are arguing in circles . . . branford Dec 2014 #92
Bad cops are not a small minority as you keep claiming. Ino Jan 2015 #117
Anti-teacher, pro cop... Union Scribe Jan 2015 #122
Read all my posts in this thread far more carefully, branford Jan 2015 #124
What can you do? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #15
They already doing this to Boreal Dec 2014 #20
Stay on her good side. Kalidurga Dec 2014 #22
Too many shitty cops, agreed..But does she want a society with NO police at all? whathehell Dec 2014 #30
So it's a question of extremes? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #32
I think you missed the part where in recent matters like Michael Brown and Eric Garnder, branford Dec 2014 #36
Not exactly! atreides1 Dec 2014 #66
Nonsense.. sendero Dec 2014 #67
I think you missed my point. branford Dec 2014 #72
Not even close, and before using false dichotomies to misinterpret my post completely, whathehell Dec 2014 #37
So how can we at a glance tell which cops are trustworthy? Savannahmann Dec 2014 #39
How can you know if ANYONE is trustworthy at a glance, and, again, whathehell Dec 2014 #41
My sister was married to a cop BubbaFett Dec 2014 #40
Are you therefore claiming all of the close to one million police officers branford Dec 2014 #43
Probably, but as you may have noticed, that's the way many think here.. whathehell Dec 2014 #50
Nope. Just the ones that are. truebrit71 Dec 2014 #80
I temped to trot out the young black male crime statistics . . . branford Dec 2014 #88
Except... truebrit71 Dec 2014 #93
Yet they nevertheless are very disproportionately involved in violent, often armed, crime. branford Dec 2014 #94
Please see the latest SCOTUS ruling about when and why cops can.. truebrit71 Dec 2014 #97
That is not what the ruling said. branford Dec 2014 #98
And who determines what is reasonable? truebrit71 Dec 2014 #100
Courts determine what is reasonable. branford Dec 2014 #102
Do you represent LEO's, their victims, or both? n/t JimDandy Dec 2014 #111
What do you mean by "effectively judgement-proof"? nomorenomore08 Dec 2014 #105
Government are deep pockets. branford Dec 2014 #112
I would argue that the problem is larger than a "tiny minority" of police, but otherwise I see what nomorenomore08 Jan 2015 #118
That seems to be a conclusion you conjured out of thin air BubbaFett Dec 2014 #106
My girlfriend WAS a cop.. whathehell Dec 2014 #45
Good for your gf but damnedifIknow Dec 2014 #51
"So where's the public outrage"? whathehell Dec 2014 #52
I think this says quite a bit damnedifIknow Dec 2014 #108
I agree with the conclusion reached. n/t whathehell Dec 2014 #109
^^this^^ LeftOfWest Dec 2014 #55
Do we really want to trot out crime statistics? _Blue_ Dec 2014 #69
good for you BubbaFett Dec 2014 #107
In that it allowed me to know a good cop, yes, but far BETTER for the people she served whathehell Dec 2014 #110
What preconceived narrative are you creating BubbaFett Dec 2014 #113
I'm not "creating" anything. whathehell Dec 2014 #114
Snide what? BubbaFett Jan 2015 #115
If you've actually never heard whathehell Jan 2015 #116
If you've never heard the phrase "Internet forum open to the public" BubbaFett Jan 2015 #119
If you knew what the phrase meant, you'd know it doesn't equate to belligerence. whathehell Jan 2015 #120
I suggest you do the same BubbaFett Jan 2015 #121
Goodbye. whathehell Jan 2015 #123
That could be a dangerous attitude. Turbineguy Dec 2014 #77
Have her treat them like she treats everyone else. ManiacJoe Dec 2014 #86
Nothing!! mstinamotorcity2 Dec 2014 #90
Sounds like there are bigger problems in play here. Talking to a professional is probably a good first step. tritsofme Dec 2014 #96
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