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SummerSnow

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27. I remember he would call himself a mope when he was wrong.

Reply to brooklynite (Reply #2)

Wed Dec 31, 2014, 10:06 AM

Dec 2014

He would tell his wife that he wasn't good enough for her. Then he call her ' the greatest'. So sweet.

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Ralph Kramden... Character who is abusive or lovable dude trying to just survive? [View all] diabeticman Dec 2014 OP

It isn't always what is said, it's how it is said and what it means to the audience Kalidurga Dec 2014 #1

That's like saying Col. Klink should have been prosecuted for War Crimes... brooklynite Dec 2014 #2

Excellent reply. earthside Dec 2014 #5

+1. That, and times change. What's funny changes. nt Hekate Dec 2014 #15

"Address the ball" and "Poloponies" NEVER gets unfunny. KittyWampus Dec 2014 #75

HelllloooooOOO, ball wryter2000 Dec 2014 #78

I took a beginner's golf class at the local high school... meaculpa2011 Dec 2014 #88

I remember he would call himself a mope when he was wrong. SummerSnow Dec 2014 #27

Many do not realize that Col. Klink was Jewish... (odd fact, there) and so was Schultz! MADem Dec 2014 #52

Werner Klemperer had an understanding in his contract... brooklynite Dec 2014 #56

Very true. He was also the son hifiguy Dec 2014 #63

One of my favorite lines. VScott Dec 2014 #93

+1,000 - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #53

What channel? Kingofalldems Dec 2014 #74

A local NYC station WPIX-11 LiberalElite Dec 2014 #77

As the Kommandant of a POW camp, the series never portrays him as committing war crimes. Coventina Dec 2014 #61

A couple of good LiberalElite Dec 2014 #62

Huh? Col. Klink was too incompetent to be prosecutedd for war crimes... madinmaryland Dec 2014 #92

I'm thinking your wife needs her own account here. Nuclear Unicorn Dec 2014 #3

I think she used to have an account. n/t tammywammy Dec 2014 #10

sincere question, KMOD Dec 2014 #21

What? libodem Dec 2014 #48

I never saw him lay a hand on her. Still... Xipe Totec Dec 2014 #4

I never thought for a second that Alice was in any danger. Alice knew he was... BlueJazz Dec 2014 #6

Charming character. elleng Dec 2014 #7

It was the classic use of humor to ridicule the powerful. arcane1 Dec 2014 #8

I was a little girl when this was on TV... Ino Dec 2014 #9

Me, too ann--- Dec 2014 #26

3-4 women are killed each day in the U.S. at the hands of spouse or KingCharlemagne Dec 2014 #11

Context matters loyalsister Dec 2014 #12

The education level "wasn't very high???" YarnAddict Dec 2014 #28

Think averages and cultural intelligence loyalsister Dec 2014 #34

But, YarnAddict Dec 2014 #38

There are still massive numbers of boomers who are racist loyalsister Dec 2014 #43

Ralph and Archie YarnAddict Dec 2014 #47

"We" who? loyalsister Dec 2014 #50

Times do change you know - LiberalElite Dec 2014 #55

Do you know that Ricky Ricardo's accent was in fact Desi trying to have as little accent as possible Bluenorthwest Dec 2014 #57

Their control over "I Love Lucy" was absolute. hifiguy Dec 2014 #82

Have you ever heard of blacksploitation? loyalsister Dec 2014 #96

Wow cwydro Dec 2014 #79

John Wayne regularly spanked his leading ladies on film. The Quiet Man, McClintock, and many more. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #13

Oh, it could be done, but the context would be very different indeed.... MADem Dec 2014 #72

Yes, but the context in the old moves of he 50's and the60's were different. Agnosticsherbet Dec 2014 #73

Father Knows Best! MADem Jan 2015 #97

It wasn't just films nichomachus Dec 2014 #83

Alice would kick his big ass to the moon faster than any rocket before his hand ever landed. TheKentuckian Dec 2014 #14

If he had, Alice would have eaten him up. longship Dec 2014 #16

It's so easy to criticize tv, movie and music from decades ago Jetboy Dec 2014 #17

+100 NewDeal_Dem Dec 2014 #18

You got it. TreasonousBastard Dec 2014 #20

it's not either/or. just because stuff is messed up today, doesn't TheFrenchRazor Dec 2014 #22

Nobody said stuff wasn't messed up in the past. Jetboy Dec 2014 #29

NEWSFLASH: Domestic abuse was reprehensible in the 1950's. We aren't talking about the 14th century. WinkyDink Dec 2014 #32

NEWSFLAS: Domestic abuse is reprehensible in the 2010s. We aren't talking about the 1950s. Jetboy Dec 2014 #35

We're talking about a program made in the 1950s LiberalElite Dec 2014 #58

Agree 100% n/t YarnAddict Dec 2014 #36

When I was little and the show was on, I could not stand it. seabeyond Dec 2014 #19

I thought it was a consistently bad show myself - I can see the appeal of Jackie Gleason el_bryanto Dec 2014 #33

As a kid who lived with domestic violence, I was afraid of Ralph Kramden. CTyankee Dec 2014 #37

It wasn't a documentary! YarnAddict Dec 2014 #40

I'm telling you from a child who had witnessed actual domestic abuse what I CTyankee Dec 2014 #42

and a child who never experienced domestic abuse felt in my gut. i was very young. or.... re runs seabeyond Dec 2014 #49

He was both. I always thought their dynamic was fascinating. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #23

I do, because he was big and threatening. CTyankee Dec 2014 #46

She could cut through his BS like a hot knife through butter--and she did. Often. MADem Dec 2014 #65

I forgot how good she was. Smarmie Doofus Dec 2014 #70

The King of the Castle!!!! MADem Dec 2014 #71

Abusive, lying, cowardly, sexist and conniving, yes. Orsino Dec 2014 #24

Neither he nor his wife were lovable characters. surrealAmerican Dec 2014 #25

"Hello, ball!" WinkyDink Dec 2014 #31

Very funny! YarnAddict Dec 2014 #44

freakin hillarious aikoaiko Dec 2014 #95

"That was the main interest in the show - how nasty people deal with one another. " oberliner Dec 2014 #39

Personal context is everything. My Sicilian relatives were harmless; my Irish father was not. His WinkyDink Dec 2014 #30

Still one of the funniest sitcoms ever. PeteSelman Dec 2014 #41

I agree with your wife edhopper Dec 2014 #45

if audrey meadows had flinched even slightly tiny elvis Dec 2014 #51

I didn't get the feeling he was an abuser. DawgHouse Dec 2014 #54

I found both characters to be unpleasant and the show unfunny. Coventina Dec 2014 #59

If anything, Alice's mother had more to fear from Ralph... BklnDem75 Dec 2014 #60

I don't understand the dichotomy gollygee Dec 2014 #64

Nostalgia is cool. But why watch it now? Inkfreak Dec 2014 #66

Is this sarcasm/parody? oberliner Dec 2014 #67

No. It's an opinion. No better than yours. No less. (nt) Inkfreak Dec 2014 #86

Fair enough oberliner Dec 2014 #90

No worries, Happy New Year. Inkfreak Dec 2014 #91

i had my 17 yr old watch a couple my day movies, thinking they will be funny. seabeyond Dec 2014 #68

Lol, no arguement about the music. (nt) Inkfreak Dec 2014 #87

The content of your post BubbaFett Dec 2014 #69

Ok. (nt) Inkfreak Dec 2014 #85

I watched the Honeymooners because that's what my Ilsa Dec 2014 #76

And how will we be judged with the convenience of 60 years of hindsight? Throd Dec 2014 #80

Ralph was a big, lovable blowhard who would never hifiguy Dec 2014 #81

I have to say first JustAnotherGen Dec 2014 #84

There was only one case of spousal abuse... meaculpa2011 Dec 2014 #89

I was a beaten child, my sister got it worse, maybe the screams of a deaf child sound different irisblue Dec 2014 #94

Never cared for his jokes about smacking his wife Alice ailsagirl Jan 2015 #98

I liked him better when his name was Fred Flintstone. Warren DeMontague Jan 2015 #99