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stupidicus

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Tue Apr 24, 2012, 06:25 PM

Apr 2012

for the welcome and the compliment

I think there's a direct relationship between the voter apathy behind those numbers, and the apathy in DC politics represented by the ignoring of the will of the people as shown in the polls.

For example -- http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2012/04/10/461246/gallup-americans-have-more-guts-than-obama-support-mandatory-controls-on-co2-emissions/

http://pnhp.org/blog/2009/12/09/two-thirds-support-3/

imo it's more about what we're forced to tolerate due to their unresponsiveness, than any willingness on the part of Americans to tolerate it.

I'm not sure there's much if any disagreement here between me and the poster, I was just attempting to address the causes for this sad condition of being forced to tolerate what we don't in majority numbers in far too many cases, want to.

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Why do we tolerate the TSA? The DHS? The "patriot act"? [View all] Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 OP

K&R guardian Apr 2012 #1

TSA is purposefully intimidating flamingdem Apr 2012 #2

Normally they are respectful when you opt out KeepItReal Apr 2012 #42

Some are more aggressive than others flamingdem Apr 2012 #43

I fear for the health of TSA people standing around backscatter X-Ray machines KeepItReal Apr 2012 #51

Now that I remember it .. flamingdem Apr 2012 #52

Good question. On the one hand we hear endless propaganda about 'freedom and liberty' sabrina 1 Apr 2012 #3

Such alarmist alarmism gratuitous Apr 2012 #4

They promise us only the bad people will lose their freedom kenny blankenship Apr 2012 #5

Because Americans, eager to believe anything authorities tell them, are whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #6

The cure for fear in this case is proportion. Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #18

Maybe YOU are. randome Apr 2012 #19

Sorry, if you support the unnecessary trading of liberties for false security whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #22

No, I don't do 'pissing myself'. Ever. randome Apr 2012 #23

Okay we agree whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #24

Absolutely. randome Apr 2012 #33

YEAH! All President Obama needs is a "better majority", bvar22 Apr 2012 #57

Because we are good decent law-abiding Germans... err Americans. nt Speck Tater Apr 2012 #7

+10 Cleita Apr 2012 #10

You forgot the NDAA law as well! That one is every bit as scary. We need to get rid teddy51 Apr 2012 #8

I agree. OCCUPY EVERYWHERE! WHEN CRABS ROAR Apr 2012 #31

Awesome post! I love this quote: Zorra Apr 2012 #9

+1,000. Thanks for the link, bookmarking that and K & R. freshwest Apr 2012 #15

"...that whenever any form of government becomes destructive of these ends..." lastlib Apr 2012 #37

This message was self-deleted by its author cbrer Apr 2012 #11

Because we aren't bold enough to do anything about it Aerows Apr 2012 #12

I don't, but, with no picture ID what can I do? Downwinder Apr 2012 #13

Duzy nt Zorra Apr 2012 #14

'These agencies are just ideas! We CAN say NO to them!' freshwest Apr 2012 #16

RT: "TSA installs undercover agents on Texas busses" Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #17

And this is like some make or break issue with you? randome Apr 2012 #21

You see, there's the problem. nt sudopod Apr 2012 #28

Perhaps, if there was a bus to ride. Downwinder Apr 2012 #29

Why would you allow yourself to be searched and questioned without cause? Luminous Animal Apr 2012 #47

Why would you answer? Or why would you answer in an airport or train station? GoneOffShore Apr 2012 #50

THIS is one way of many to say NO! to what is wrong! Fire Walk With Me Apr 2012 #20

the short answer is I don't think we do stupidicus Apr 2012 #25

Rather intelligent, stupidicus whatchamacallit Apr 2012 #27

thanks stupidicus Apr 2012 #38

Fear pure and simple. zeemike Apr 2012 #26

Let me paint another picture. Downwinder Apr 2012 #34

Me too...might be better off in jail zeemike Apr 2012 #41

I figure the difference between a nursing home and jail is Downwinder Apr 2012 #44

we 'hate' the epa but love the tsa. our conundrum. nt xchrom Apr 2012 #30

Because guitar man Apr 2012 #32

"They hate us for our freedom..." (remember that?) So, take our freedom away, lastlib Apr 2012 #35

Why? DeSwiss Apr 2012 #36

I had an alternate name for DHS when it was created: the KGWB lastlib Apr 2012 #39

k&t /nt joshguitar Apr 2012 #40

"We" don't. The Politicians don't care what we think. Odin2005 Apr 2012 #45

we do..we have to..the kids will lead ..and unfortunately some of them will be hurt xiamiam Apr 2012 #46

Indeed, the politicians no longer listen to the voters. Zalatix Apr 2012 #48

It's worse than that SlipperySlope Apr 2012 #53

HUGE K & R !!! - Thank You !!! WillyT Apr 2012 #49

k&r nt steve2470 Apr 2012 #54

I spent the evening talking with some 18-24 year olds EmeraldCityGrl Apr 2012 #55

i am also astounded by these kids...something so very unique about them xiamiam Apr 2012 #56

Way too many Americans are willing to go gentle into that good night, bvar22 Apr 2012 #58

Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Apr 2012 #59

Congress doesn't work for us anymore. Our other choice librechik Apr 2012 #60

Frogs in a pan of water on the stove Autumn Apr 2012 #61