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69. Yes. It's like bigotry and hate are OK so long as directed at the "right"
Fri Jan 16, 2015, 11:33 AM
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Liberals are not really supposed to be that way. It is how we are different from the fundies. Naturally it is human nature to want to make fun of the more extreme of them, in return for the things they would say about those not religious. But while they will not tolerate us, we tolerate them. It's one of the main differences. We live and let live. They want to control everyone.

I agree with you. DLevine Jan 2015 #1
Exactly. I usually post mocking blatant hypocrisy in various situations rather than blanket peacebird Jan 2015 #3
A Branch Levitican TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #184
We even mock each other Fumesucker Jan 2015 #2
Good point. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #5
Agreed. bvf Jan 2015 #8
No, it shouldn't dumbcat Jan 2015 #67
I stand corrected. bvf Jan 2015 #74
Exactly. We are a PROGRESSIVE board. We SCRUTINIZE reactionary nonsense and nonsense in general. alp227 Jan 2015 #163
Though it seems many people forget that there may be consequences.... MattSh Jan 2015 #126
Thanks. bvf Jan 2015 #131
Good point. The CCC Jan 2015 #55
Criticizing even mocking religion should never be off limits. Criticizing and mocking PEOPLE who BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #97
Yeah, though everyone is guilty of sometimes crossing lines. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #99
LOVE it. It's what I believe, too. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #104
Thanks. I had the supreme pleasure of being in a NOH8 photo shoot a few years ago. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #112
If you'd paid closer attention maybe you would have noticed we mostly just mock you. ieoeja Jan 2015 #7
So you're a Fumesuckeraphobe? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #11
Unofficially. I found the meetings kind of silly so stopped going. n/t ieoeja Jan 2015 #15
:) PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #18
BINGO! k&r B Calm Jan 2015 #4
Maybe NanceGreggs can explain it to you.. whathehell Jan 2015 #6
I replied to her thread. I was going to rewrite it and replace "religion" with PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #9
That's nice. whathehell Jan 2015 #46
I doubt it lame54 Jan 2015 #73
Whatever floats your boat, Rig whathehell Jan 2015 #75
Sneering at the poor and rubbing their faces in it is not what DU is all about. nt ucrdem Jan 2015 #10
Since when are religious organizations "the poor"? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #12
So you claim the Saudis are 'the poor'? To criticize billionaire autocrats is to sneer at the poor? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #19
Oh, darn. You figured out our nefarious plot! Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #91
My question to you is if you would not do it to a person face to face. Jappleseed Jan 2015 #13
My avatar... ironic? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #17
It is easier to reject than to consider. Jappleseed Jan 2015 #23
Again - criticism is not the same as hate. I reject your framing. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #24
Last post from me on this. Jappleseed Jan 2015 #25
Still *totally* not hate. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #26
What would you say if someone criticized LGBT or women? zeemike Jan 2015 #35
I bite back when conservatives AND religions threaten autonomy and human rights. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #39
Well so do I. zeemike Jan 2015 #48
And yet when Rick Warren called LGBT people some terrible names and got rewarded by being Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #57
!!! +1 wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #61
Well I know that when people start dragging up old hurt feelings zeemike Jan 2015 #70
AGREED Skittles Jan 2015 #149
" I was sickened by DUers defending Rick Warren's inclusion in the inagural" greiner3 Jan 2015 #153
And those same people who are saying religion must not be criticized BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #151
No, but vicious, sneering ridicule bears a remarkable resemblance to it. whathehell Jan 2015 #77
Still *totally* not hate. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #80
Still I *totally* disagree. whathehell Jan 2015 #83
Also PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #20
I find is worth noting that many of the posters who defend the worst of religious acts using Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #21
I do not ascribe it to religion because the absence thereof would remove the effect. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #52
And... PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #22
Well, I for one can imagine a political cartoon skewering Benyamin Netanyahu Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #28
Yes. It's like bigotry and hate are OK so long as directed at the "right" treestar Jan 2015 #69
Ding!..We have a winner! whathehell Jan 2015 #87
So when we criticize Republicans is that bigotry and hate too? Should we refrain from that? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #101
Of course not. treestar Jan 2015 #105
I don't see how mixing supernatural beliefs into something makes it off limits. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #107
No if you believe made up nonsense is real, that is MORE deserving of respect. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #129
Good point, Warren. Thank you for the clarity. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #135
Usually DU is all about letting the offended decide what is offensive treestar Jan 2015 #182
I am totally bigoted against homophobic idiots. I hate them too. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #128
I submit that it is not bigotry treestar Jan 2015 #181
Are the anti-women policies of major religions also bigotry? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #100
Oh no no no! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #152
The religions didn't cause that treestar Jan 2015 #183
Ahh, that's right, nothing is ever the fault of religions. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #185
There are things still totally off limits even for precious free speech and satire in America. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #118
I think most of those people just can't stand the idea of LGBT people and women having anyone Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #14
That's a whole lot of assumptions & straw men all balled up together. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #168
There is a creeping, deliberate authoritarian movement in this nation. woo me with science Jan 2015 #16
+1000 nt freebrew Jan 2015 #33
same here.. Duppers Jan 2015 #88
I could not have stated that any better. smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #148
And obviously on this board BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #154
Unfortunately, mocking isn't going to do the job. NancyDL Jan 2015 #176
Aye, there's the rub and the crux of the conflict: Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #27
So DU is not just for progressive, liberal democrats... brer cat Jan 2015 #29
You see mocking and ridiculing of conservative ideology all the time. It's the core of our existence PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #30
This is not a conservative site. brer cat Jan 2015 #37
Equating ideology I find horrible with ideology I find horrible is fair. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #38
That certainly makes good sense. LOL brer cat Jan 2015 #41
+1000 classykaren Jan 2015 #68
if your faith endorses misogyny and homophobia HOW is it different? Skittles Jan 2015 #147
I'd like to see the answer too BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #165
they CANNOT defend it Skittles Jan 2015 #166
I find it INCREDIBLE the world's largest religions with billions of members needs kid gloves BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #169
I guess it depends on what you call lately...this happened last year but began earlier OnlinePoker Jan 2015 #180
It sounds like a rather poorly written article to be sure BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #186
Faith is my personal belief, brer cat Jan 2015 #170
you don't need religion to achieve such things Skittles Jan 2015 #172
Criticism isn't the same as mocking brer cat Jan 2015 #174
it is according to many people, including on DU Skittles Jan 2015 #175
When Obama was campainging with hate preachers and then employed Rick Warren Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #51
Oh, I remember that very well. djean111 Jan 2015 #109
If someone mocks what I believe in, I must be doing something right. Rex Jan 2015 #31
And maybe doing something wrong too. Silent3 Jan 2015 #59
And it is a far too common error to assume that being mocked means you did something wrong. Rex Jan 2015 #138
It may be a common error, but so is the badge-of-honor interpretation. Silent3 Jan 2015 #142
Amen Borchkins Jan 2015 #32
Beliefs Roy Rolling Jan 2015 #34
I will separate religion from politics the day that the religious separate their beliefs from it. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #40
!!! +1 wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #63
+1000 Duppers Jan 2015 #90
... Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #92
DU rec... SidDithers Jan 2015 #36
Amen! (old habits die hard) mountain grammy Jan 2015 #58
I AGREE WITH SID! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #155
And he wrote more than one short snarky sentence! BeanMusical Jan 2015 #179
I will continue to criticize, satirize, and mock things and people that I sinkingfeeling Jan 2015 #42
Me, too. As we should. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #43
The only group I routinely mock and insult is Republicans. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #44
I understand what you're saying, but religion is on a different plane than politics. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2015 #45
They're intersecting planes Prism Jan 2015 #47
Well, ideally they are on seperate planes. Practically, not as much. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2015 #53
But the religion births the policies Prism Jan 2015 #56
How then do you explain whathehell Jan 2015 #89
Oh, it's still religion Prism Jan 2015 #103
Oh, really, lol? whathehell Jan 2015 #108
If you haven't, read up on religion in Russia and the role of the Orthodox Church Prism Jan 2015 #111
I like your point. MatthewStLouis Jan 2015 #62
religion is first and foremost political... lame54 Jan 2015 #72
DU Rec Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #49
I'm on the fence with this... pipi_k Jan 2015 #50
huge DU rec olddots Jan 2015 #54
I have a moral objection to bigotry and broadbrushing ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #60
neat. and I to barbaric tenets, misogyny and violence in the name of religion. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #65
Sure, me too ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #76
That's entirely up to you, isn't it? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #78
Exactly. ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #81
amen and hallelujah. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #82
Are we really going there? ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #84
pssst PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #85
Sorry ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #86
I have an objection to bigotry and broadbrushing hidden behind religions. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #66
Of course ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #79
Pack mentality? You mean like this pack? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #96
Sure that pack ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #98
It doesn't do any good treestar Jan 2015 #64
So will you petition the 'faith communities' to stop mocking and denigrating others? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #71
I probably would, yeah treestar Jan 2015 #94
Religion is an idea invented for and by weak and lazy people nolabels Jan 2015 #93
Actually you are wrong about that ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #102
Thanks for the information nolabels Jan 2015 #113
I was talking historically ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #114
Everybody's bodies are different to one degree or another as everyone knows nolabels Jan 2015 #136
There are lots of people posting here who have strong objections to criticizing or mocking ND-Dem Jan 2015 #95
after all, is there any bigger sacred cow than something that's turned into a marketing phenom MisterP Jan 2015 #150
k&r Duppers Jan 2015 #106
One can be critical without mocking. Satire, is usually best left to a professional. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #110
I had no idea that was the entire point of the site. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #115
Ever hear of "The Top 10 Conservative Idiots"? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #116
As I noted, mockery does take place on the site. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #117
Re-read the OP. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #119
I try to avoid mocking religious beliefs. To me, there is a difference between LittleBlue Jan 2015 #120
Let me shorten it for you... MellowDem Jan 2015 #121
Because when my ancestors came to this country LittleBlue Jan 2015 #123
It is another idea... MellowDem Jan 2015 #125
Then debate on LittleBlue Jan 2015 #130
People change their mind on religion. MellowDem Jan 2015 #144
Can polite disagreement coexist with "live and let live"? alp227 Jan 2015 #171
Because mockery is not something decent people do to other human beings. Bullies use mockery sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #122
yeesh, someone should tell EarlG!! PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #124
I'm with you Sabrina 1. Very nicely put. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #187
Tim Minchin from "White Wine in the Sun"... SidDithers Jan 2015 #127
Thanks, and one of my favorites, Patton Oswalt on respecting beliefs. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #132
He's awesome... SidDithers Jan 2015 #134
I'm not at all opposed to mocking ideas gollygee Jan 2015 #133
+1,000,000 n/t cpwm17 Jan 2015 #140
The internet is not a safe zone for sensitive people. TeamPooka Jan 2015 #137
i heard that there might be *porn* on it, too. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #139
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #141
The Big Lie colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #143
We are very much on the same page oberliner Jan 2015 #145
I have no problem with ... NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #146
Absolutely agree. They should leave the word "idiot" out. It's not helpful. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #164
If liberals no longer have the stomach to stand up to power or the oppressors, BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #156
Thank you. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #157
Thank you for this thread BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #162
If someone gives me "After-Death" threats uriel1972 Jan 2015 #158
"After death threats". I like that phrase. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #161
Well said. Basically if you can't take the heat, don't go to the kitchen. alp227 Jan 2015 #159
Read my sig line. It is a deeply held belief and mocking it does nothing but hurt. uppityperson Jan 2015 #160
You're a kind and compassionate voice of reason in this whole passionate PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #167
that looks like an interesting book uppityperson Jan 2015 #173
I replied to a thread some time way back when I was new to DU... C Moon Jan 2015 #177
I'm not walking on egg shells around the bible thumpers. They whine and yell all the time; so can I. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #178
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