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Skittles

(152,964 posts)
172. you don't need religion to achieve such things
Sat Jan 17, 2015, 01:54 AM
Jan 2015

so please cease with that meme

I am not attacking the religious - I am attacking the ridiculous idea that religion and faith should be free from criticism, end of story

I agree with you. DLevine Jan 2015 #1
Exactly. I usually post mocking blatant hypocrisy in various situations rather than blanket peacebird Jan 2015 #3
A Branch Levitican TheKentuckian Jan 2015 #184
We even mock each other Fumesucker Jan 2015 #2
Good point. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #5
Agreed. bvf Jan 2015 #8
No, it shouldn't dumbcat Jan 2015 #67
I stand corrected. bvf Jan 2015 #74
Exactly. We are a PROGRESSIVE board. We SCRUTINIZE reactionary nonsense and nonsense in general. alp227 Jan 2015 #163
Though it seems many people forget that there may be consequences.... MattSh Jan 2015 #126
Thanks. bvf Jan 2015 #131
Good point. The CCC Jan 2015 #55
Criticizing even mocking religion should never be off limits. Criticizing and mocking PEOPLE who BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #97
Yeah, though everyone is guilty of sometimes crossing lines. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #99
LOVE it. It's what I believe, too. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #104
Thanks. I had the supreme pleasure of being in a NOH8 photo shoot a few years ago. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #112
If you'd paid closer attention maybe you would have noticed we mostly just mock you. ieoeja Jan 2015 #7
So you're a Fumesuckeraphobe? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #11
Unofficially. I found the meetings kind of silly so stopped going. n/t ieoeja Jan 2015 #15
:) PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #18
BINGO! k&r B Calm Jan 2015 #4
Maybe NanceGreggs can explain it to you.. whathehell Jan 2015 #6
I replied to her thread. I was going to rewrite it and replace "religion" with PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #9
That's nice. whathehell Jan 2015 #46
I doubt it lame54 Jan 2015 #73
Whatever floats your boat, Rig whathehell Jan 2015 #75
Sneering at the poor and rubbing their faces in it is not what DU is all about. nt ucrdem Jan 2015 #10
Since when are religious organizations "the poor"? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #12
So you claim the Saudis are 'the poor'? To criticize billionaire autocrats is to sneer at the poor? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #19
Oh, darn. You figured out our nefarious plot! Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #91
My question to you is if you would not do it to a person face to face. Jappleseed Jan 2015 #13
My avatar... ironic? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #17
It is easier to reject than to consider. Jappleseed Jan 2015 #23
Again - criticism is not the same as hate. I reject your framing. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #24
Last post from me on this. Jappleseed Jan 2015 #25
Still *totally* not hate. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #26
What would you say if someone criticized LGBT or women? zeemike Jan 2015 #35
I bite back when conservatives AND religions threaten autonomy and human rights. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #39
Well so do I. zeemike Jan 2015 #48
And yet when Rick Warren called LGBT people some terrible names and got rewarded by being Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #57
!!! +1 wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #61
Well I know that when people start dragging up old hurt feelings zeemike Jan 2015 #70
AGREED Skittles Jan 2015 #149
" I was sickened by DUers defending Rick Warren's inclusion in the inagural" greiner3 Jan 2015 #153
And those same people who are saying religion must not be criticized BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #151
No, but vicious, sneering ridicule bears a remarkable resemblance to it. whathehell Jan 2015 #77
Still *totally* not hate. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #80
Still I *totally* disagree. whathehell Jan 2015 #83
Also PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #20
I find is worth noting that many of the posters who defend the worst of religious acts using Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #21
I do not ascribe it to religion because the absence thereof would remove the effect. Nuclear Unicorn Jan 2015 #52
And... PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #22
Well, I for one can imagine a political cartoon skewering Benyamin Netanyahu Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #28
Yes. It's like bigotry and hate are OK so long as directed at the "right" treestar Jan 2015 #69
Ding!..We have a winner! whathehell Jan 2015 #87
So when we criticize Republicans is that bigotry and hate too? Should we refrain from that? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #101
Of course not. treestar Jan 2015 #105
I don't see how mixing supernatural beliefs into something makes it off limits. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #107
No if you believe made up nonsense is real, that is MORE deserving of respect. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #129
Good point, Warren. Thank you for the clarity. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #135
Usually DU is all about letting the offended decide what is offensive treestar Jan 2015 #182
I am totally bigoted against homophobic idiots. I hate them too. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #128
I submit that it is not bigotry treestar Jan 2015 #181
Are the anti-women policies of major religions also bigotry? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #100
Oh no no no! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #152
The religions didn't cause that treestar Jan 2015 #183
Ahh, that's right, nothing is ever the fault of religions. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #185
There are things still totally off limits even for precious free speech and satire in America. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #118
I think most of those people just can't stand the idea of LGBT people and women having anyone Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #14
That's a whole lot of assumptions & straw men all balled up together. Ms. Toad Jan 2015 #168
There is a creeping, deliberate authoritarian movement in this nation. woo me with science Jan 2015 #16
+1000 nt freebrew Jan 2015 #33
same here.. Duppers Jan 2015 #88
I could not have stated that any better. smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #148
And obviously on this board BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #154
Unfortunately, mocking isn't going to do the job. NancyDL Jan 2015 #176
Aye, there's the rub and the crux of the conflict: Surya Gayatri Jan 2015 #27
So DU is not just for progressive, liberal democrats... brer cat Jan 2015 #29
You see mocking and ridiculing of conservative ideology all the time. It's the core of our existence PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #30
This is not a conservative site. brer cat Jan 2015 #37
Equating ideology I find horrible with ideology I find horrible is fair. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #38
That certainly makes good sense. LOL brer cat Jan 2015 #41
+1000 classykaren Jan 2015 #68
if your faith endorses misogyny and homophobia HOW is it different? Skittles Jan 2015 #147
I'd like to see the answer too BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #165
they CANNOT defend it Skittles Jan 2015 #166
I find it INCREDIBLE the world's largest religions with billions of members needs kid gloves BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #169
I guess it depends on what you call lately...this happened last year but began earlier OnlinePoker Jan 2015 #180
It sounds like a rather poorly written article to be sure BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #186
Faith is my personal belief, brer cat Jan 2015 #170
you don't need religion to achieve such things Skittles Jan 2015 #172
Criticism isn't the same as mocking brer cat Jan 2015 #174
it is according to many people, including on DU Skittles Jan 2015 #175
When Obama was campainging with hate preachers and then employed Rick Warren Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #51
Oh, I remember that very well. djean111 Jan 2015 #109
If someone mocks what I believe in, I must be doing something right. Rex Jan 2015 #31
And maybe doing something wrong too. Silent3 Jan 2015 #59
And it is a far too common error to assume that being mocked means you did something wrong. Rex Jan 2015 #138
It may be a common error, but so is the badge-of-honor interpretation. Silent3 Jan 2015 #142
Amen Borchkins Jan 2015 #32
Beliefs Roy Rolling Jan 2015 #34
I will separate religion from politics the day that the religious separate their beliefs from it. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #40
!!! +1 wavesofeuphoria Jan 2015 #63
+1000 Duppers Jan 2015 #90
... Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #92
DU rec... SidDithers Jan 2015 #36
Amen! (old habits die hard) mountain grammy Jan 2015 #58
I AGREE WITH SID! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #155
And he wrote more than one short snarky sentence! BeanMusical Jan 2015 #179
I will continue to criticize, satirize, and mock things and people that I sinkingfeeling Jan 2015 #42
Me, too. As we should. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #43
The only group I routinely mock and insult is Republicans. MoonRiver Jan 2015 #44
I understand what you're saying, but religion is on a different plane than politics. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2015 #45
They're intersecting planes Prism Jan 2015 #47
Well, ideally they are on seperate planes. Practically, not as much. Tommy_Carcetti Jan 2015 #53
But the religion births the policies Prism Jan 2015 #56
How then do you explain whathehell Jan 2015 #89
Oh, it's still religion Prism Jan 2015 #103
Oh, really, lol? whathehell Jan 2015 #108
If you haven't, read up on religion in Russia and the role of the Orthodox Church Prism Jan 2015 #111
I like your point. MatthewStLouis Jan 2015 #62
religion is first and foremost political... lame54 Jan 2015 #72
DU Rec Jesus Malverde Jan 2015 #49
I'm on the fence with this... pipi_k Jan 2015 #50
huge DU rec olddots Jan 2015 #54
I have a moral objection to bigotry and broadbrushing ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #60
neat. and I to barbaric tenets, misogyny and violence in the name of religion. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #65
Sure, me too ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #76
That's entirely up to you, isn't it? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #78
Exactly. ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #81
amen and hallelujah. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #82
Are we really going there? ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #84
pssst PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #85
Sorry ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #86
I have an objection to bigotry and broadbrushing hidden behind religions. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #66
Of course ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #79
Pack mentality? You mean like this pack? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #96
Sure that pack ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #98
It doesn't do any good treestar Jan 2015 #64
So will you petition the 'faith communities' to stop mocking and denigrating others? Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #71
I probably would, yeah treestar Jan 2015 #94
Religion is an idea invented for and by weak and lazy people nolabels Jan 2015 #93
Actually you are wrong about that ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #102
Thanks for the information nolabels Jan 2015 #113
I was talking historically ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #114
Everybody's bodies are different to one degree or another as everyone knows nolabels Jan 2015 #136
There are lots of people posting here who have strong objections to criticizing or mocking ND-Dem Jan 2015 #95
after all, is there any bigger sacred cow than something that's turned into a marketing phenom MisterP Jan 2015 #150
k&r Duppers Jan 2015 #106
One can be critical without mocking. Satire, is usually best left to a professional. Tuesday Afternoon Jan 2015 #110
I had no idea that was the entire point of the site. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #115
Ever hear of "The Top 10 Conservative Idiots"? PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #116
As I noted, mockery does take place on the site. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jan 2015 #117
Re-read the OP. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #119
I try to avoid mocking religious beliefs. To me, there is a difference between LittleBlue Jan 2015 #120
Let me shorten it for you... MellowDem Jan 2015 #121
Because when my ancestors came to this country LittleBlue Jan 2015 #123
It is another idea... MellowDem Jan 2015 #125
Then debate on LittleBlue Jan 2015 #130
People change their mind on religion. MellowDem Jan 2015 #144
Can polite disagreement coexist with "live and let live"? alp227 Jan 2015 #171
Because mockery is not something decent people do to other human beings. Bullies use mockery sabrina 1 Jan 2015 #122
yeesh, someone should tell EarlG!! PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #124
I'm with you Sabrina 1. Very nicely put. nt kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #187
Tim Minchin from "White Wine in the Sun"... SidDithers Jan 2015 #127
Thanks, and one of my favorites, Patton Oswalt on respecting beliefs. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #132
He's awesome... SidDithers Jan 2015 #134
I'm not at all opposed to mocking ideas gollygee Jan 2015 #133
+1,000,000 n/t cpwm17 Jan 2015 #140
The internet is not a safe zone for sensitive people. TeamPooka Jan 2015 #137
i heard that there might be *porn* on it, too. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #139
This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #141
The Big Lie colsohlibgal Jan 2015 #143
We are very much on the same page oberliner Jan 2015 #145
I have no problem with ... NanceGreggs Jan 2015 #146
Absolutely agree. They should leave the word "idiot" out. It's not helpful. n/t jtuck004 Jan 2015 #164
If liberals no longer have the stomach to stand up to power or the oppressors, BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #156
Thank you. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #157
Thank you for this thread BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #162
If someone gives me "After-Death" threats uriel1972 Jan 2015 #158
"After death threats". I like that phrase. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #161
Well said. Basically if you can't take the heat, don't go to the kitchen. alp227 Jan 2015 #159
Read my sig line. It is a deeply held belief and mocking it does nothing but hurt. uppityperson Jan 2015 #160
You're a kind and compassionate voice of reason in this whole passionate PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #167
that looks like an interesting book uppityperson Jan 2015 #173
I replied to a thread some time way back when I was new to DU... C Moon Jan 2015 #177
I'm not walking on egg shells around the bible thumpers. They whine and yell all the time; so can I. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #178
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