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334. that's still makes it about beliefs

Sun Jan 18, 2015, 06:56 PM

Jan 2015

rather than actions.

For example, from the book "Putting away childish things"

"Some people are troubled by the miracle stories and want to heave them overboard along with the whole New Testament. Others defend them with tooth and nail and act as if Christianity in general and the truth of Jesus' message in particular depended on everyone's believing these miracles. The Evangelists wanted to praise Jesus to the skies through their accounts of his miracles, to make him great and imposing. They wanted to show that divinity gleamed, as it were, right through his clothes. But all they did was put a pile of tiny miracles in front of the true miracle that Jesus is all about: the miracle of the love of God. The miracle stories have been used not to open up but to obstruct our view of Jesus." 96

When asked about the greatest commandment, the answer was not about "to believe in God, and the last days" (as the Koran says) it was "to love the Lord, and to love your neighbor".

I prefer to say "follower" of Jesus, rather than "believer".

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Has General Discussion Been Hostile to Religious Believers recently? [View all] el_bryanto Jan 2015 OP

Yes. But that's not a recent occurrence on DU. GD, and most of DU have always bee pretty hostile to BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #1

What's wrong with that term? nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #2

It sounds condenscending, even patronizing. Just my opinion. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #3

What term would you prefer? nt. Mariana Jan 2015 #101

Definitely NOT "religious believers". How about Christians? Jewish? Muslims? Buddhists? BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #105

I don't see anything wrong with it nxylas Jan 2015 #106

I do. And I'd never use it. I always say, "people of faith" in instances like this. eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #109

that's still makes it about beliefs hfojvt Jan 2015 #334

That's why I believe that term, "people of faith" to be neutral. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #366

Do the people of whom you refer ... 1StrongBlackMan Jan 2015 #201

No, I don't think it's condescending or insulting. Mariana Jan 2015 #108

Are you a person of faith, then? eom BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #110

I am and I see it as neutral Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #209

I am, too, and I don't see it as neutral. BlueCaliDem Jan 2015 #221

It might be used differently there Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #223

I think you're right nxylas Jan 2015 #268

It's not used an a pejorative fashion in the states. Mariana Jan 2015 #338

My wife had never thought of it as a pejorative either nxylas Jan 2015 #347

+1 treestar Jan 2015 #13

But is that aimed at edhopper Jan 2015 #23

I've seen it aimed both at the belief and the believer at the same time. HappyMe Jan 2015 #26

why it is usually banded edhopper Jan 2015 #28

It's usually not allowed in GD HappyMe Jan 2015 #35

+10 840high Jan 2015 #181

No you sound like a religious hater of homosexuals joeglow3 Jan 2015 #33

Not at all edhopper Jan 2015 #55

It depends on the critique el_bryanto Jan 2015 #82

This is kind of ironic as just this morning you were lecturing mormons cbayer Jan 2015 #112

Yes it is, I am saying their precepts are bullshit. edhopper Jan 2015 #165

So you are equating criticism of a set of ideas held by choice to a religious motto which equates Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #125

It is pretty clear what I am criticizing. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #206

Religion is about a lot more treestar Jan 2015 #297

At the belief might not be so direct treestar Jan 2015 #295

Well then edhopper Jan 2015 #298

I'm sure they do have a thick skin in many cases treestar Jan 2015 #299

I thought your premise edhopper Jan 2015 #300

It's not insulting treestar Jan 2015 #303

I tend to keep my talk about religion edhopper Jan 2015 #308

Well it is mythology phil89 Jan 2015 #290

Apparently you think your opinion in treestar Jan 2015 #296

You're correct that it's not recent. okasha Jan 2015 #210

+ pecwae Jan 2015 #315

Not really. HappyMe Jan 2015 #4

I'm sorry, but I am annoyed at the blatant disrespect for religious people.. OLDMADAM Jan 2015 #203

If you define hostile as disagreeing, then the answer is yes! DrewFlorida Jan 2015 #5

yup - there is a religious BOG here too Skittles Jan 2015 #152

People who believe in religion are generally dangerous to life everywhere. Zorra Jan 2015 #6

+1000. I make the same distinction as you do. dissentient Jan 2015 #7

Presumably that includes religious duers nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #8

Do you believe in God, or in religion? nt Zorra Jan 2015 #20

I believe in God and I practice a religion. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #22

I specifically said generally. Does your religious organization current support limiting the Zorra Jan 2015 #32

I'm Mormon. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #34

Does the Mormon Church pay you to post here? nt Zorra Jan 2015 #43

No. I don't know where that is coming from. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #47

Does the Atheist Alliance for America pay YOU to post here?? whathehell Jan 2015 #156

This message was self-deleted by its author whathehell Jan 2015 #158

Wait, that was an option? Kurska Jan 2015 #199

They pink slipped me when they found out I wasn't an atheist. nt Zorra Jan 2015 #355

Do you feel it is ok to support an organization that deliberately harms others, Zorra Jan 2015 #49

You didn't answer my question above - why do you think the Mormon Church is paying me to post here? el_bryanto Jan 2015 #50

If your religion funded organizations that denied African Americans the right to marry, Zorra Jan 2015 #60

Am I on trial? I don't support NOM el_bryanto Jan 2015 #61

No. You posted an OP about religion being dissed in GD. I'm trying to Zorra Jan 2015 #89

There's a long answer to that question el_bryanto Jan 2015 #92

Cute. You think there would be no war or hate if religion disappeared. joeglow3 Jan 2015 #36

No, but war and hate really don't need any extra help, IMO. nt Zorra Jan 2015 #45

I can agree with that joeglow3 Jan 2015 #93

Do you think that every person that attends services HappyMe Jan 2015 #40

No. Better to trust in God than in religion. Zorra Jan 2015 #62

I find your views about people with beliefs to be pretty simplistic. HappyMe Jan 2015 #66

I get the liberal church/conservative church thing. I have no problem with Zorra Jan 2015 #104

That's just swell. rug Jan 2015 #127

Prevent conservatives from gaining political power would be my first choice. nt Zorra Jan 2015 #356

Wrong "his discussion began with an OP that posed a question about DUers dissing religion". uppityperson Jan 2015 #138

Right, religion is what's killing the planet and the people on it. lol. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #29

With core ideas like "God made this temporal world for man to conquer and rule", and greyl Jan 2015 #37

contrary to what you may believe, the christian religion has never been a monolith. and is still ND-Dem Jan 2015 #270

The religion is the basis for the killing. 4 killed in Niger ~ Zorra Jan 2015 #42

The basis for the killing is power politics. Religion is a tool of the powerful. Witness how our ND-Dem Jan 2015 #44

Sometimes, maybe. Governments have certainly used religious believers to Zorra Jan 2015 #48

sometimes used religion? almost always used religion, including ramping up religious feeling and ND-Dem Jan 2015 #74

The basis for the killing is power politics. AlbertCat Jan 2015 #184

I don't disagree, but the most powerful governments today are no longer religious. They just ND-Dem Jan 2015 #202

but the most powerful governments today are no longer religious. AlbertCat Jan 2015 #222

the religion of greed is "what's killing the planet and the people on it" DrDan Jan 2015 #63

agreed. but easier for the upper classes to blame it on religion. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #71

+1 liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #213

Thank you. whathehell Jan 2015 #161

+1 n/t Matrosov Jan 2015 #73

And yet there are billions who believe in a religion and have not killed anyone. kelliekat44 Jan 2015 #75

Complete and utter bullshit. rug Jan 2015 #121

Chiliastic panic. okasha Jan 2015 #216

Distinction without a difference Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #211

Not true. I am a Buddhist who has no opinion on whether God exists or not. liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #212

I'm not sure if Buddhism is a religion Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #217

I am a follower of Tibetan Buddhism and to many it is absolutely a religion with god like liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #218

I don't see merely believing (or not believing) in a god as making something a religion. LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #257

Wiki's definition isn't bad Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #258

Well in your case LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #261

Not exactly Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #263

I guess my definition was faulty then LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #265

M father is a Taoist :) Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #269

Why are these religious posts in GD TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #9

Because the moderators choose not to enforce that rule el_bryanto Jan 2015 #10

Please read below. Sissyk Jan 2015 #17

Your OP could be interpreted as disruptive meta Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #52

Well you should definitely alert on me. See what happens. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #57

Alerting sends it to a jury. The topic was 'moderator' (i.e. host) locking. n/t Gormy Cuss Jan 2015 #58

Because Skinner told the Hosts to not enforce that rule. uppityperson Jan 2015 #139

High profile event treestar Jan 2015 #14

Hi, TexasProgresive Sissyk Jan 2015 #16

If you read my post, you would see I posted that. TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #18

Yes - after a few days of constant hosility and attacks a few more religious DUers will decide that el_bryanto Jan 2015 #39

"if they are religious they probably don't belong here anyway"? W.T.F? Clarify please uppityperson Jan 2015 #140

DU is hostile to religious DUers el_bryanto Jan 2015 #146

Thank you, I understand now and indeed. I agree. uppityperson Jan 2015 #147

I agree, Bryant whathehell Jan 2015 #164

I am not religious and completely agree - it is DrDan Jan 2015 #182

I'm starting to feel the same way Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #215

The internet in general is hostile to bullshit. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #280

As if to demonstrate the point... thucythucy Jan 2015 #305

when I learned I was wrong I said so. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #309

Whatever Warren. thucythucy Jan 2015 #312

You would be greatly missed. I, for one, enjoy your posts. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #374

That may be what they want -- Don't give it to them. n/t whathehell Jan 2015 #170

I think so. The hostility level is so high, it sure seems like the intent is to get rid of people. ND-Dem Jan 2015 #271

Exactly, whathehell Jan 2015 #279

The same thing has happened to some of our most wonderful feminists here. thucythucy Jan 2015 #359

Who to thank? edgineered Jan 2015 #11

By intolerance you mean that religionists el_bryanto Jan 2015 #12

The older I get, edgineered Jan 2015 #15

I'm so tired of this insulting bullshit el_bryanto Jan 2015 #21

So am I. whathehell Jan 2015 #166

in what way does that constitute a response to the question you were asked? maybe you need ND-Dem Jan 2015 #31

Oooh, by all means, produce these threads. rug Jan 2015 #133

ba ba ba ba edgineered Jan 2015 #191

Ah, no link! rug Jan 2015 #193

Unquestionably. And it always has been. LittleBlue Jan 2015 #19

This poll is bullshit. Iggo Jan 2015 #24

Thank you for your response - why is it bullshit? el_bryanto Jan 2015 #25

That was one of the options you provided in your poll. Iggo Jan 2015 #27

And then you posted to underline that you think this poll is bullshit el_bryanto Jan 2015 #30

Why? LittleBlue Jan 2015 #72

It was one of the available options of the poll. Iggo Jan 2015 #114

Personally, I haven't seen the hate of people associated WITH religion, so much as religion... MrMickeysMom Jan 2015 #38

I can't think of ONE Faux pas Jan 2015 #41

I take it you are one of those who believes that if someone does something good el_bryanto Jan 2015 #46

I'm looking for any example of something good Faux pas Jan 2015 #51

Religion is unable to do anything except through the people who believe in it. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #54

That's right, and Faux pas Jan 2015 #84

So if someone goes and shoots up a bunch of cartoonists and claims he is doing it for religious el_bryanto Jan 2015 #88

I'm not here to debate with you all day, k? Faux pas Jan 2015 #90

OK. Kind of chickenshit, but ok. Have a good day. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #95

An hour and a half is "until the end of time" or "all day"? huh. nt uppityperson Jan 2015 #143

Depends on when the cows come home jberryhill Jan 2015 #369

LOL. whathehell Jan 2015 #173

Can you think of one good thing a religious person has ever done? uppityperson Jan 2015 #141

Martin Luther King Jr. did some good things, wouldn't you say? whathehell Jan 2015 #169

Very much so.My reply was to "I can't think of ONE GOOD thing religion has ever done." uppityperson Jan 2015 #189

Right. whathehell Jan 2015 #192

Yes, that did occur to me, thank you for checking. The OP was about "religious believers" uppityperson Jan 2015 #196

Okay.. whathehell Jan 2015 #284

Mother Teresa has done many good deeds - do you deny that? DrDan Jan 2015 #186

Indeed, many have. My reply was to "I can't think of ONE GOOD thing religion has ever done." uppityperson Jan 2015 #188

You might want to do a bit of research on that one. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #286

the post asked "Can you think of one good thing a religious person has done" DrDan Jan 2015 #291

Yes, name some. mr blur Jan 2015 #292

ok - her work in creating a hospice for the poor in Calcutta DrDan Jan 2015 #293

Albert Schweitzer. whathehell Jan 2015 #306

Let me tell you a story Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #220

then you aren't thinking TorchTheWitch Jan 2015 #373

Hostile to certain aspects of many religions, but not 'to religious believers' muriel_volestrangler Jan 2015 #53

Have religious believers been hostile to general discussions lately? Anansi1171 Jan 2015 #56

not that I have noticed . . . DrDan Jan 2015 #64

Answer: NO. For one thing, they're generally too busy defending themselves whathehell Jan 2015 #174

Not really Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #226

I think we shouldn't be allowwd to discuss religion or politics olddots Jan 2015 #59

LMAO! beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #171

Yes, the forum should be restricted to cat videos and mutual exchanges of congratulations Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #287

Why no option for agnostics? thucythucy Jan 2015 #65

So am I, and I share your views and concerns. whathehell Jan 2015 #190

I feel very unwelcomed here as a person of faith and I have decided to take a DU break. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #67

You deserve a break. kwassa Jan 2015 #77

Thanks so much. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #333

Thank you for all your posts. thucythucy Jan 2015 #155

Thanks! i had enough of silence. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #323

I know exactly what you mean Peacetrain Jan 2015 #195

i am back. standing down is a bad idea. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #324

Hang in there ... Peacetrain Jan 2015 #328

I will my friend. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #330

..... Peacetrain Jan 2015 #331

ROFLMAO!!! truebrit71 Jan 2015 #342

Lol i am glad you got a good kick out of it. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #345

May the road rise up to meet you Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #227

I have that in my kitchen BainsBane Jan 2015 #228

I hope it brought a smile then Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #230

It did. Thanks. BainsBane Jan 2015 #232

You're very welcome n/t Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #235

Thanks my friend. remaining silent is just not for me. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #325

I got sick of my break! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #316

Welcome back! rug Jan 2015 #318

No ignore, it is too boring. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #321

LOL good! great white snark Jan 2015 #320

Thank you my friend! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #322

lol, welcome back Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #339

That explains it exactly. My heart belongs to this place. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #340

For myself, I'm thinking a vacation might be in order Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #341

You need to take care of yourself first. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #343

Yeah, I think you're right Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #352

And peace be with you. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #353

You actually have to leave in order for it to be considered a break... truebrit71 Jan 2015 #344

I never said religious privilege is not a thing. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #346

Sorry, what was that? I was taking a break from DU... truebrit71 Jan 2015 #348

Thank God! hrmjustin Jan 2015 #350

I guess a break from DU Puglover Jan 2015 #378

Glad you came back! Mariana Jan 2015 #362

Thank you very much my friend and I am glad you enjoy my posts. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #363

It's always been hostile to believers. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #68

Yes, I've sometimes wondered if the site's name whathehell Jan 2015 #168

DU is often hostile towards religion(s) not just GD justiceischeap Jan 2015 #69

wait what? Are you saying that as a religious believer who is tired of DU telling him how stupid he el_bryanto Jan 2015 #76

If that is your conclusion, I think you have been hostile to history. rug Jan 2015 #137

"It was her fault for dressing like that" Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #229

logic, history and fact fail ND-Dem Jan 2015 #272

If your belief is firm, why would you care? cheapdate Jan 2015 #70

And if a believer says "I've questioned my beliefs, and on reflection I find them to be true." el_bryanto Jan 2015 #78

No, that would be tantamount to calling him or her a liar. cheapdate Jan 2015 #80

Well I've heard it said that believers are all intellectually dishonest or delusional el_bryanto Jan 2015 #81

No, I don't. People believe all kinds of things. cheapdate Jan 2015 #83

the "mushroom mind"? Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #231

I believe that vast, interconnected, webs of fungal mycelium cheapdate Jan 2015 #243

Fascinating idea Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #245

Here you go: cheapdate Jan 2015 #248

Thanks dude Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #249

Oh get the freaking quote right. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #281

"there are lines not to be crossed in civil discussion", and that is the question by the OP. uppityperson Jan 2015 #144

By "hostile" I assume you mean mocking and unfriendly? cheapdate Jan 2015 #172

I was quoting the OP, their question. uppityperson Jan 2015 #179

Two things went wrong... cheapdate Jan 2015 #200

It becomes draining Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #234

All true. That's the score. cheapdate Jan 2015 #237

I'm a believer and religion discussions don't bother me at all. grossproffit Jan 2015 #79

GD can be hostile to anyone on any given day, imo. Inkfreak Jan 2015 #85

I wonder if you'd care to launch a side by side comparison of shit said openly about LGBT people Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #86

The person who said that should be ashamed of themselves. I don't know if I'm expected to defend it el_bryanto Jan 2015 #87

The point is, if I am expected to endure such extreme hostility, I need to know if you are asking Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #91

I'm not saying I couldn't I'm saying it wouldn't accomplish anything. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #94

I'm asking you to define your terms. There is really no reason for you to get personal and start Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #97

OK apparently you feel I didn't take this seriously enough s- let's go through it. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #103

I vote HYPOCRITES Skittles Jan 2015 #153

Link? okasha Jan 2015 #219

Sinc you aksed, here it is. I have had posts hidden for calling this bigotry to light and the author Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #277

That is fucking vile. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #327

Has religion been hostile to women and gay people recently? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #96

I've just been told that is an unfair comparison to bring up. Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #98

That's not what I said, please don't distort my words. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #102

Your words are right there to be seen. And you had no problem speaking for me, 'you think this and Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #132

Have theists been hostile to women and LGBT people on DU recently? TexasProgresive Jan 2015 #111

RECENTLY? Skittles Jan 2015 #154

Not always. kwassa Jan 2015 #238

let me know when, say, the Catholic church approves of birth control Skittles Jan 2015 #246

One church out of many, and most Catholics practice birth control. kwassa Jan 2015 #247

it's a sample of mass misogyny, world-wide, that for some reason we are supposed to RESPECT Skittles Jan 2015 #252

OK. kwassa Jan 2015 #256

omg not the GOOD THINGS meme Skittles Jan 2015 #259

How does the Catholic Church cause poverty? kwassa Jan 2015 #311

Its opposition to birth control. beam me up scottie Jan 2015 #326

OK. I accept that. kwassa Jan 2015 #335

If you look at how the Catholic Church has behaved worldwide since its inception, Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #301

Not exactly. There is a long line of crimes done in the name of the Church .... kwassa Jan 2015 #313

Have theists on DU been hostile to them? Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #236

On a daily fucking basis... truebrit71 Jan 2015 #255

This message was self-deleted by its author LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #99

It has been hostile to everyone (nt) LostOne4Ever Jan 2015 #100

Yes; and according to the rules religious topics are not allowed to be posted in General Discussion. Jeffersons Ghost Jan 2015 #107

Admin said it is right now, there is a Religion exception. eom uppityperson Jan 2015 #148

Sure, a week in which some religious believers were slaughtering satirists for blasphemy Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #113

I've been meaning to say how much I like your avatar. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #116

The other cup is better. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #118

I'll just have to imagine it. At any you must be pretty happy with how things are going. nt. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #119

No, I was horrified by how things went. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #122

I meant at DU - not in Paris. Naturally I was horrified with the various actions over there. el_bryanto Jan 2015 #126

They were completely connected, and the events in Paris were far more important. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #130

they always pull out the victim card Skittles Jan 2015 #157

Do you tithe to your church? trumad Jan 2015 #115

I do tithe, I don't believe my money goes to causes that I disagree with. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #117

But it does. PassingFair Jan 2015 #120

You might be making an assumption about "what is agreed with". nt. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #123

I support Marriage Equality - I've said so repeatedly el_bryanto Jan 2015 #128

The fact that you tithe to your church shows that to be a lie, at the very least... Humanist_Activist Jan 2015 #254

You believe gays suffer in hell after death and you don't believe your church should allow same sex Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #288

OK - you win. I knew that a lot of member out there had donated el_bryanto Jan 2015 #124

Enlightenment! PassingFair Jan 2015 #129

Yes I'm so happy to be enlightened i think I'll go slit my wrists. nt el_bryanto Jan 2015 #131

Maybe a visit to a mental health professional would be a better choice? PassingFair Jan 2015 #134

You hope i'm not joking? el_bryanto Jan 2015 #136

Seek help. nt PassingFair Jan 2015 #142

You really hope that I want to kill myself after finding out about this? el_bryanto Jan 2015 #145

Saying this: PassingFair Jan 2015 #149

And he triples down with the death wish. Incredible. uppityperson Jan 2015 #150

The point is that it would be disgusting and mean to joke about killing one's self about such a Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #159

I wasn't joking. PassingFair Jan 2015 #162

Yes, and it wasn't funny. n/t Aerows Jan 2015 #187

Suicide jokes Aerows Jan 2015 #183

I think this is a question of being irony deficient. whathehell Jan 2015 #304

just in case, here is the post. uppityperson Jan 2015 #151

Um, I think he's being ironic.. whathehell Jan 2015 #302

Jury results Aerows Jan 2015 #178

Have you known anyone who committed suicide? Mariana Jan 2015 #194

Please don't joke about that Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #240

And the reason why I left the catholic church. I could not live with myself, in good Luminous Animal Jan 2015 #214

Has GD Been Hostile to the Victims of an Extremely Violent & Deadly Attack? countryjake Jan 2015 #135

It has certainly been hostile to Muslim DUers. Fearless Jan 2015 #160

There are Muslim DUers? Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #241

I notice quite a bit of hostility toward Christianity mostly workinclasszero Jan 2015 #163

Oh, absolutely! whathehell Jan 2015 #176

Republianity Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #242

The thing is, hypocrisy. Here you are, after many posts about 'hostility to religion' but this post Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #278

No different than normal....I'd say it's the "normal" amount of hate. ileus Jan 2015 #167

Are religious believers some sort of special class, that should be protected?...nt SidDithers Jan 2015 #175

Yes. Obviously. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #283

I wasn't aware speaking truth would be considered hostile... AuntPatsy Jan 2015 #177

What you consider truth - I might not. 840high Jan 2015 #185

Perhaps you could start by distinguishing "opinion" from indisputable "truth". whathehell Jan 2015 #198

YES. 840high Jan 2015 #180

Yes GusBob Jan 2015 #197

Nope. It's pretty much the same as ever. unrepentant progress Jan 2015 #204

Is the Pope Catholic? Does the bear shit in the forest? Douglas Carpenter Jan 2015 #205

Yes, but that is nothing new. I think I'm going to start trashing those threads. They just liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #207

I think so Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #208

lol AtheistCrusader Jan 2015 #375

I saw some things I thought were disrespectful herding cats Jan 2015 #224

Has religion been hostile to EVERYONE in the 99% recently? Uh, yeah. That's what it does. nt valerief Jan 2015 #225

No. Actually. kwassa Jan 2015 #239

I answered yes because I just read a post claiming they're apologists for public beheading kcr Jan 2015 #233

I'm a nonbeliever, and the answer is "so what?" enki23 Jan 2015 #244

No, but it's generally hostile to harmful or especially stupid beliefs, and it should be. LeftyMom Jan 2015 #250

if you support a church that is openly misogynistic and homophobic you are PART OF THE PROBLEM Skittles Jan 2015 #253

You need an option that says: BainsBane Jan 2015 #251

"It's been hostile, but believers deserve it because they are inferior" Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #262

I can understand BainsBane Jan 2015 #266

So that's 'pretty much what you've been told'? Catholic teaching is that I am 'inherently disordered Bluenorthwest Jan 2015 #282

Yes, a most fascistic point of view.. whathehell Jan 2015 #307

I answered that I am a believer. But I have reservations. Enthusiast Jan 2015 #260

The Church of Preacher Casey... countryjake Jan 2015 #264

countryjake, that is fine! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #267

Nope, it is the other way around; those without religion are in the minority, impossible for ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #273

No, they're not, not here Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #274

How many people were surveyed? How many people are members of DU? ChosenUnWisely Jan 2015 #275

No problem Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #276

Nice poll design - my answer yes, but I don't care. Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #285

I don't think anyone's saying it's hate speech Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #289

Mostly fair points, I think. Yo_Mama Jan 2015 #294

Prophet, about your analogy to your lover, Manifestor_of_Light Jan 2015 #372

I'm not a believer, & I really don't care if there's been "hostility" to Religious "believers" in GD 2banon Jan 2015 #310

And it's a pretty shitty opinion. rug Jan 2015 #314

Likewise.. 2banon Jan 2015 #382

Two things Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #317

Do you think atheist should avoid evangelizing in GD. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #319

I've never seen atheists evangelizing anywhere, but maybe it happens in certain forums... 2banon Jan 2015 #380

I can't say I have seen believers evangelize in GD or DU. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #381

Really? Well then, I guess the whole discussion is one big misunderstanding! 2banon Jan 2015 #383

The point of the poll was to get people's opinion whether it has become hostile to people hrmjustin Jan 2015 #384

Don't know about you, but I was just catching up on reading posts up thread.. 2banon Jan 2015 #385

Thats a disappointing answer. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #386

I have not noticed any "evangelizing" in GD. HappyMe Jan 2015 #377

For the record it has gotten very hostile to believers. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #329

Your religion is hostile to women, racist and homophobic. LeftyMom Jan 2015 #332

What is Truly Ironic On the Road Jan 2015 #336

I wish I could rec posts Prophet 451 Jan 2015 #337

I would say there are certain Groups you can post in that are progressive, but as a whole I would liberal_at_heart Jan 2015 #365

Understand Christianity? Mariana Jan 2015 #367

Throw them to the lions!!! Katashi_itto Jan 2015 #349

99 definitely yes vs 61 definitely not. Number23 Jan 2015 #351

The truth is, religious people have been used to complete deference, until about ten years ago. Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #354

This is my take too. cemaphonic Jan 2015 #361

I'm wondering what the believers think about this type of hostility? Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #357

i am against restricting reproductive rights. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #358

The reality it has been worse of late here. hrmjustin Jan 2015 #360

I'm a non believer and I think there has been hostility here recently mountain grammy Jan 2015 #364

Jesus had things to say about people Mariana Jan 2015 #368

I think you make a very good point. thucythucy Jan 2015 #370

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