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Cha

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3. Oh dear.. horrible horribly sad.. thank you for bringing it to light, she.

Mon Jan 19, 2015, 07:49 PM

Jan 2015

All forms of abortion are illegal in El Salvador. And though there was no indication that Guadalupe, a mother of one, intentionally terminated her pregnancy, the doctors snitched her out to save themselves from any criminal liability.
Guadalupe, who never saw the inside of a fifth grade classroom, was interrogated in her hospital bed without a lawyer. The Kafkaesque trial was brutal and swift. Before Guadalupe knew what was happening, she was sentenced to 30 years in jail and thrown behind bars with convicted murders.

If Guadalupe’s story sounds crazy, that’s because it is. Not only does El Salvador have one of the most draconian anti-abortion laws in the world, but authorities there apply the tyrannical law with an aggressiveness that borders on obsessive. Dozens of Salvadoran women — mostly young, and all poor — are behind bars for homicide

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No Pardon - Young Woman To Serve 30 Years For Miscarriage [View all] sheshe2 Jan 2015 OP

Please excuse the following, not fit for polite company..... daleanime Jan 2015 #1

No need to excuse you. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #2

Thank you.... daleanime Jan 2015 #44

"Literally shaking with rage." sheshe2 Jan 2015 #48

I've had a full term intrapartum death Bettie Jan 2015 #67

put their men in prison too roguevalley Jan 2015 #11

It's in Asia too, sorry to say. Men dominate, intimidate and control women & children. From close appalachiablue Jan 2015 #99

What did she do? I don't get it. yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #31

She had a miscarriage. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #38

Oh brother....sickening is the least of it. yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #39

This is fucking insane... yuiyoshida Jan 2015 #54

My wife and I have a large family...but we also had some very unfortunate miscarriages... Moostache Jan 2015 #83

My first pregnancy ended in miscarriage. And due to the fact that abortion truedelphi Jan 2015 #90

Oh dear.. horrible horribly sad.. thank you for bringing it to light, she. Cha Jan 2015 #3

It is brutal and so very cruel Cha. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #5

This shit is happening here too. I'm glad you noted that. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #4

Well of course I noted it. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #7

It's never stopped... Marthe48 Jan 2015 #12

Unbelievable! smirkymonkey Jan 2015 #6

I just recently brought up this subject of El Salvador on fb. BlancheSplanchnik Jan 2015 #8

Blanche, sheshe2 Jan 2015 #14

Same. I read this story a few days ago and it has haunted me. Literally sick over this. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #98

El Salvador Is The Model For US The GOP & Its Allies Have In Mind. I.E. Fundy Christians. TheMastersNemesis Jan 2015 #9

hyeah but this is like further right than real right wing voters I know PatrynXX Jan 2015 #10

Not 'further right'... Panich52 Jan 2015 #57

Insanity ismnotwasm Jan 2015 #13

That's so Evangelical of El Salvador. And EXACTLY what Evangelicals hope to bring to the U.S. blkmusclmachine Jan 2015 #15

Pretty sure it is already here. eom sheshe2 Jan 2015 #16

And Evangelicals are spreading into South America as well. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jan 2015 #20

A breakdown of the religions in El Salvador BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #40

If I had my way all Salvadorian officials would be oredered to leave the US in 48 hours. 47of74 Jan 2015 #17

Amen. The US could stop this bullshit in 24 hours. I'd go even farther > BlueJazz Jan 2015 #28

You should start a new thread for this in the morning, and ask everyone to k&r it. Liberty Belle Jan 2015 #61

petition signed. please consider giving this its own thread for visibility. nt magical thyme Jan 2015 #81

Signed. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #94

Pope should intervene. zentrum Jan 2015 #18

Sadly, I don't see that happening. eom sheshe2 Jan 2015 #21

I wonder if the Pope knows about this particular case yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #37

HAHAHAHAHA! BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #41

Come on Brother.....it may be POSSIBLE yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #43

You're kidding right? BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #45

Well maybe your right but nothing is guaranteed. yeoman6987 Jan 2015 #47

What you say is all infuriatingly true, but.... zentrum Jan 2015 #53

I will personally go kiss his feet if he does BrotherIvan Jan 2015 #56

yes, but... druidity33 Jan 2015 #91

We're talking religion here. Not logic. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #95

If he steps forward, zentrum Jan 2015 #93

Please. I am sure he agrees with this. nt m-lekktor Jan 2015 #49

Hatred and abuse of women is worse than I've ever seen in the US. It's a shock from the appalachiablue Jan 2015 #19

So true and so depressing. Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #96

NPR did a report on this leftieNanner Jan 2015 #22

Sad isn't it leftieNanner. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #25

Anybody that speaks Spanish would have to be appalled at the laws of El Salvador. BlueJazz Jan 2015 #23

Please give generously. eggplant Jan 2015 #24

Thank you for the link eggplant. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #29

Yea, I know. eggplant Jan 2015 #52

Similar for me. Ineeda Jan 2015 #80

This is an important and horrific story. Many religious are eeking towards this here. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #26

At best ,this is just stupid! deafskeptic Jan 2015 #27

It already is happening here... sheshe2 Jan 2015 #32

Religions of El Salvador... SidDithers Jan 2015 #30

I sure won't hold my breath... sheshe2 Jan 2015 #34

Respect for their beliefs, cultural differences, warmongering imperialist racism, LadyHawkAZ Jan 2015 #92

Here's the ultimate irony - the FUCKING ASSHOLES in this country who scream bullwinkle428 Jan 2015 #33

It is Already Here!!! sheshe2 Jan 2015 #35

Well, they're unquestionably not against religious law governing a country, Dark n Stormy Knight Jan 2015 #97

This is what you get when you allow ReThugs to hold power... harrose Jan 2015 #36

Oh, they are indeed the GOP. And we need to stop them. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #46

I ask... nikto Jan 2015 #42

Kick sheshe2 Jan 2015 #50

Wellllll...... ReRe Jan 2015 #51

Appalling is a completely... 3catwoman3 Jan 2015 #55

"The State Where Giving Birth Can Be Criminal" (Tennessee), The Nation, 12/29/14 progree Jan 2015 #58

K & R SunSeeker Jan 2015 #59

And did you hear about that Alabama law appointing attorneys for fetuses? SunSeeker Jan 2015 #60

The National Institute of Health gives miscarriage rates HeiressofBickworth Jan 2015 #62

This is fucking SICK! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #63

K&R! This post should have hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast Jan 2015 #64

To be clear, Illinois' fetal homicide law does not apply to the mother. ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #65

Fetal homicide laws are a slippery slope and wrong. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #69

No disagreement from me-- just wanted to clarify. ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #71

I am very strongly against all of them and posted more on why below. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #72

As am I. ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #74

I understand, and I wanted to give additional perspective as to why it and others are still wrong. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #75

The anti-choicers will find IL's 'soil' poor for planting. ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #76

Really mostly only Chicago. PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #77

Chicago will keep us blue. ColesCountyDem Jan 2015 #78

And for that, I'm thankful PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #79

A miscarriage if justice... blackspade Jan 2015 #66

I clicked onto this thread thinking it would be another Florida story. B Calm Jan 2015 #68

why I think fetal homicide laws are bullshit... PeaceNikki Jan 2015 #70

Huh? I Mean, Huh? ProfessorGAC Jan 2015 #73

k and appalled r for this sick, woman-hating crap. niyad Jan 2015 #82

Ah, religion. Gotta love it--if you're a sadist. nt valerief Jan 2015 #84

RWers are salivating to do the same thing here. lark Jan 2015 #85

Religion = The Scourge of Humanity Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #86

Awful LiberalLovinLug Jan 2015 #87

This is absolute batshit insanity. hifiguy Jan 2015 #88

Insanity is the new sane AZ Progressive Jan 2015 #89

She actually got the pardon on Thursday ManiacJoe Jan 2015 #100

Hallelujah. I hope she's out by now. mountain grammy Jan 2015 #101

thank you. sheshe2 Jan 2015 #103

Anyone see article: 300,000 INDIGENOUS WOMEN STERILIZED IN PERU IN 1990s? appalachiablue Jan 2015 #102