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AgingAmerican

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175. So cheating is acceptable

Reply to 4Q2u2 (Reply #161)

Wed Jan 21, 2015, 06:33 PM

Jan 2015

Because the Patriots apparently have no issues with teams doing it?

Ever heard of integrity?

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Should the Patriots be made to forfeit Sunday's game? [View all] gopiscrap Jan 2015 OP

We don't know how long the Patriots have been doing this, right? petronius Jan 2015 #1

Let's expel Seattle from the NFL former9thward Jan 2015 #5

Good luck with that AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #29

It will happen at the same time former9thward Jan 2015 #55

Good luck with that AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #64

One of the former Seahawks who was suspended is now a Patriot. opiate69 Jan 2015 #90

Yes, Brandon Browner AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #113

He was one of my favorite seahawks as well. opiate69 Jan 2015 #115

In Seattle, he could have smoked all the super "bowls" he wanted n/t eridani Jan 2015 #185

No one has innocent hands in the NFL. former9thward Jan 2015 #152

Wait, didn't we already do that? No?!? petronius Jan 2015 #187

Did the NFL check the Colts' balls too? House of Roberts Jan 2015 #2

yes pintobean Jan 2015 #28

That's even funnier than the OP! zappaman Jan 2015 #65

I wanted to go with a pintobean Jan 2015 #110

DUzy! riqster Jan 2015 #140

It must be Super Bowl time sharp_stick Jan 2015 #3

appears the Super Bowl is hfojvt Jan 2015 #26

That was profound! AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #31

As is this... sharp_stick Jan 2015 #34

lol AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #37

I try to educate sharp_stick Jan 2015 #51

U mad bro? AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #61

Not really sharp_stick Feb 2015 #193

Mad enough... AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #194

Well that was just for kicks sharp_stick Feb 2015 #195

It won't 'disappear' AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #196

Don't worry sharp_stick Feb 2015 #197

Some people believe that cheating is wrong mythology Jan 2015 #78

Actually I prefer sharp_stick Jan 2015 #80

Yes, that it happened is one thing pipi_k Jan 2015 #138

Yeah, cause 11 out of 12 footballs are going to just lose 2 lbs of air... Drahthaardogs Jan 2015 #177

Too much money involved. OffWithTheirHeads Jan 2015 #4

Couldn't possibly care any less. 99Forever Jan 2015 #6

Sports is really only relevant F4lconF16 Jan 2015 #95

I'm always amazed at how seriously people take this stuff (including members of my immediate family) Arugula Latte Jan 2015 #108

I feel the same way about magazine covers. nt. RiffRandell Jan 2015 #144

+ antiquie Jan 2015 #154

bingo! opiate69 Jan 2015 #188

If true, the Patriots cheated. Avalux Jan 2015 #7

As would the refs KamaAina Jan 2015 #14

We need to check Walt Coleman's bank account stat Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #19

Nice post, Alex Jones! KamaAina Jan 2015 #21

ESPN lies to us!!! Initech Jan 2015 #59

Well, they are based in Connecticut KamaAina Jan 2015 #66

True. Refs, and all of the players, handle enough footballs to know when they are soft or not. nt TheBlackAdder Jan 2015 #23

Yes but may not have noticed since they don't grip and squeeze it. Avalux Jan 2015 #30

Yes they do grip and squeeze it sharp_stick Jan 2015 #43

Thank you for explaining. Avalux Jan 2015 #45

So did Luck and his Center. The same balls are used by both teams. berni_mccoy Jan 2015 #79

Then why did ESPN say the only way they knew was when the ball was intercepted? Avalux Jan 2015 #84

Each team has it's own set of balls AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #89

Not exactly. Each team is allowed it's own set of balls, but only the home team is required hughee99 Jan 2015 #105

That is correct. You should also notice on all change of possessions, though joeglow3 Jan 2015 #124

The balls used for kicking plays are different. (nt) jeff47 Jan 2015 #127

Irrelevent AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #88

I thought so too, but that is not true. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #160

Possible but not likely. former9thward Jan 2015 #168

The refs may not have "noticed it" because it's not uncommon... hughee99 Jan 2015 #103

Super Bowl liberal from boston Jan 2015 #48

They change balls frequently. jeff47 Jan 2015 #129

Each team has its own balls truebluegreen Jan 2015 #178

"If true, the Patriots cheated." Uh, no. MANative Jan 2015 #17

The balls they supplied the colts AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #35

I've not heard anything about that yet. Lots of questions about whether they even weighed... MANative Jan 2015 #44

They checked all the balls AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #53

Do you have a link to back that up? onenote Jan 2015 #148

Obviously it isn't an issue with the NFL AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #149

That's not the same as saying that the league checked the Colts' footballs when the checked the Pats onenote Jan 2015 #151

It is looking like only the Patriots balls were deflated AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #166

Yep. We should know more. onenote Jan 2015 #173

I was at the game and I can tell you Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #57

Irrelevent AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #67

Enjoy the haterade Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #68

Right, it's 'hate' AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #71

Sorry, jealousy Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #74

Weird AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #75

No Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #77

Wait, the plot thickens! AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #81

Yes the Colts had their balls deflated in that game too Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #82

Haha Nyc72dem Jan 2015 #85

Yeah, sure they did AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #167

Colts were home team 4Q2u2 Jan 2015 #161

So cheating is acceptable AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #175

Ever Hear of Suck for Luck 4Q2u2 Jan 2015 #190

I agree with you but it seems that many of the good liberals here think cheating doesn't matter adigal Jan 2015 #40

I totally agree! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #87

No, but huge fines and take away draft picks. (nt) Nye Bevan Jan 2015 #8

That'll likely be the punishment FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #20

A fine and the loss of a draft pick after illegally spying didn't stop this mythology Jan 2015 #96

The Seahawks have one of the highest number of PED violations. BillZBubb Jan 2015 #104

How many have they had this season? opiate69 Jan 2015 #111

Absolutely not. PeteSelman Jan 2015 #9

Oh, come on. Orrex Jan 2015 #12

Well, That Quantifies It Perfectly ProfessorGAC Jan 2015 #145

If it is just whining AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #42

Because that's what some writers desperately hope to happen Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #52

Ah, that explains it AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #54

My mistake Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #58

The Pats are the most succesfful franchise over the past decade or so...because? Threedifferentones Jan 2015 #93

Aww Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #94

Ya, uh huh. Threedifferentones Jan 2015 #98

This makes my red, white and blue blood boil Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #99

"Caught cheating (other than PEDs) ZERO TIMES". Fucking classic! 11 Bravo Jan 2015 #107

Ya, the leader of the Pats should have resigned after getting caught the first time. Threedifferentones Jan 2015 #112

Yes... other than offering bounties for knocking players out of games (Saints), hughee99 Jan 2015 #153

New Orleans Saints, for paying their players to intentionally injure opposing team players Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #164

I Agree, Given The Pats History, This Should Be Investigated... Corey_Baker08 Jan 2015 #179

This all day d_b Jan 2015 #159

The NCAA should vacate their 110 victories Orrex Jan 2015 #10

Given the team's history sarisataka Jan 2015 #11

The definitive word on the subject KamaAina Jan 2015 #13

He sure is rabid - an example of moral relativism adigal Jan 2015 #47

No, but belicheck should be suspended for the game. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #15

He should be flat out banned. Initech Jan 2015 #56

I can't disagree. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #60

That doesn't go far enough Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #16

At a minimum, the Pats should forfeit a whole lot of draft picks. Paladin Jan 2015 #18

Can someone explain this to me... JackRiddler Jan 2015 #22

nope 12 per side plus x amount for special teams rbrnmw Jan 2015 #36

What? JackRiddler Jan 2015 #38

He is saying dsc Jan 2015 #106

I believe the Colts brought their own balls as is custom since 2005(?) Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #114

all the accounts I have read stated that the home team supplies all the balls dsc Jan 2015 #117

nope each team supplies 12 offense balls for their team. Warren Stupidity Jan 2015 #162

Each team supplies their own balls for offensive play. Balls for kickoffs are... MANative Jan 2015 #39

The home team supplies all the balls AgingAmerican Jan 2015 #70

The digest of the rules you cite is not the official rulebook onenote Jan 2015 #150

No, each team provides 12 balls for their offense to use. cleanhippie Jan 2015 #50

Gee, it's funny shenmue Jan 2015 #24

Why don't the ref's or NFL supply the balls? FLPanhandle Jan 2015 #25

Indeed. JackRiddler Jan 2015 #102

That was my question too. NaturalHigh Jan 2015 #119

I imagine it is an old policy and the NFL hates to change it to give the Refs even more power Johonny Jan 2015 #139

Absolutely not. At worst, they should be fined $275K and *possibly* lost a first round draft pick. MohRokTah Jan 2015 #27

The Ravens should play the Colts this weekend pintobean Jan 2015 #32

No we have no proof they did anything yet. Nyc72dem Jan 2015 #33

if you read the poll question correctly gopiscrap Jan 2015 #41

Oh oh if PROVEN .... Nyc72dem Jan 2015 #46

I vote no. nilesobek Jan 2015 #49

It's going to be a great game Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #63

Yeah it gives those shock jocks on ESPN radio something to talk about. nilesobek Jan 2015 #69

I'm thinking it's going to be a one score game Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #76

Lmao! RiffRandell Jan 2015 #142

I voted no benld74 Jan 2015 #62

It's too late to forfeit the game. dilby Jan 2015 #72

Those balls don't account for the Colts lousy performance with Pathwalker Jan 2015 #73

Couldn't have said it better Nyc72dem Jan 2015 #83

Actually they may. opiate69 Jan 2015 #86

The Colts had their own balls when they missed the field goals, Pathwalker Jan 2015 #91

Patriots still would have won, but that doesn't brendan120678 Jan 2015 #146

If proven true, they will be, according to NFL rules, Pathwalker Jan 2015 #156

"I Misinterpreted The Rules" The Great Escape Jan 2015 #92

Know as much about football as I know about golf and I don't even know which end you hold the caddy Douglas Carpenter Jan 2015 #97

The Scotts invented the game Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #101

The Scotts call themselves "Scots". nt truebluegreen Jan 2015 #180

No. That isn't a possible punishment and we have two "reports" underpants Jan 2015 #100

Does each side use only its own balls on offense? aint_no_life_nowhere Jan 2015 #109

Three sets of footbals: one set for Colts offense, one set for Patriots offense, one set for Kickers Iggo Jan 2015 #122

They should replay the game and the Patriots have to wear bread bags over their shoes! Sancho Jan 2015 #116

Thank you! That's the best answer yet!!! gopiscrap Jan 2015 #125

Pats are disgraced enough. no to forfeit. Denis 11 Jan 2015 #118

The refs should be banned from post season games for a season. aikoaiko Jan 2015 #120

Not until deflategate is proven to NOT be a false flag operation. Kaleva Jan 2015 #121

I don't like forfeit as a penalty jmowreader Jan 2015 #123

Yeah let's check every ball every game Nyc72dem Jan 2015 #126

Either that, or get away from this ironclad rule jmowreader Jan 2015 #141

Watch the owner say: gopiscrap Jan 2015 #128

I wonder why Rush Limbaugh hasn't said that already shenmue Jan 2015 #133

Not forfeit, but I suppose the league should... brendan120678 Jan 2015 #130

I agree Belicheck should be banned gopiscrap Jan 2015 #132

The only time they've banned is for gambling and... when someone got caught doing exactly what the Johonny Jan 2015 #136

Nah. hifiguy Jan 2015 #131

But it's still cheating if true gopiscrap Jan 2015 #135

Now you might see a rule change where the refs control game balls up to kick off... Johonny Jan 2015 #134

I do think this is a serious problem shenmue Jan 2015 #137

Replay the game in Iraq using a soccer ball. Fred Sanders Jan 2015 #143

Pats haven't won a super bowl since spygate. LeftOfWest Jan 2015 #147

Whatasillyquestion! Stephen Retired Jan 2015 #155

At least their alleged crime isn't criminal, like a certain coach who paid his players to injure Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #157

who did that? gopiscrap Jan 2015 #171

"saints" 2012 Dont call me Shirley Jan 2015 #172

This message was self-deleted by its author Corruption Inc Jan 2015 #158

How though? Cancel the Superbowl? Reter Jan 2015 #163

Option 6: go out and see a movie on Sunday... brooklynite Jan 2015 #165

I don't really have an opinion Blue_In_AK Jan 2015 #169

Too late. It's past. Let the game begin! cheapdate Jan 2015 #170

Yes. Has me thinking, how much in common does this have with the Black Sox. closeupready Jan 2015 #174

folks in indiana are pretty pissed spanone Jan 2015 #176

This has to stop machI Jan 2015 #181

Cheating is rewarded by our society abelenkpe Jan 2015 #182

I'm missing something. Doesn't the other team use the same balol? n/t eridani Jan 2015 #183

Definitely, unquestionably YES. liberalhistorian Jan 2015 #184

They should be allowed to only use deflated balls Generic Brad Jan 2015 #186

By the time I get to Arizona Capt. Obvious Jan 2015 #189

Preposterous suggestion oberliner Jan 2015 #191

Whoever voted "yes" is crazy taught_me_patience Jan 2015 #192