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Response to Adrahil (Reply #161)

GREATNESS a SI thread this is just what GD needed after all the vax crack LOL snooper2 Feb 2015 #1
That's why I didn't post the cover....it is really close to porn!!! nt adigal Feb 2015 #3
No, it's really not close to porn. MineralMan Feb 2015 #8
Picture her with hair and how much woukd show adigal Feb 2015 #29
So nudity is porn? zappaman Feb 2015 #34
Depends on the purpose...this isn't art adigal Feb 2015 #39
So nudity is porn if it's meant to sell something? zappaman Feb 2015 #41
No, and I would explain it to you but I have a class adigal Feb 2015 #43
Ok, enjoy the class and come back later to explain zappaman Feb 2015 #44
What Warpy said right below you adigal Feb 2015 #111
It's not even close. zappaman Feb 2015 #112
Ok, how's this? If I am embarrassed for my teen to see most of her hairless vagina adigal Feb 2015 #116
Pet peeve of mine. The outer part is the labia. The vagina is the passageway between the uppityperson Feb 2015 #123
Yes, sorry, labeled her labia and mons pubis wrong. I was going to look it up but had no time adigal Feb 2015 #125
no worries, thanks for posting this, I agree with you. uppityperson Feb 2015 #148
Mine, too. 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #194
If this is embarrassing to you, how can you watch teevee, go to the beach,or go to a movie with him? pipoman Feb 2015 #338
Sounds like a you problem, not a Sports Illustrated problem. eom TransitJohn Feb 2015 #478
Why do you consider a woman's body gross? Orrex Feb 2015 #492
Sigh...hasty jumping to conclusions again with loaded questions. alp227 Feb 2015 #497
If someone wrote "I find pictures of old women gross," that person would be attacked. Orrex Feb 2015 #507
Of course that person would be attacked. Because that person is full of crap. alp227 Feb 2015 #513
How about nudes of old women? Orrex Feb 2015 #529
Nudity is nudity. Don't shove it in people's faces. alp227 Feb 2015 #545
Fortunately, no one is shoving it in anyone's face. Orrex Feb 2015 #552
Otherwise why would stores place those products in the checkout, alp227 Feb 2015 #556
Are you offended by chewing gum and candy bars? Orrex Feb 2015 #557
No, not what I said at all. I said that stores want those products visible for a reason. alp227 Feb 2015 #559
"Shoving in their face" is a violent, aggressive act. Orrex Feb 2015 #560
OK, if "shoving in your face" is too rough, how about something more complex and specific. alp227 Feb 2015 #561
"Raunch" is in the eye of the beholder Orrex Feb 2015 #563
Bullshit (LOL, I used a raunchy word). alp227 Feb 2015 #564
You are mischaracterizing my point. Orrex Feb 2015 #566
I guess I'm still trying to figure out... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #584
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Well, they do have the Trailblazers. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #587
Heh.. I was just there Friday night... opiate69 Feb 2015 #592
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Ha! I'm in if'n yer in! opiate69 Feb 2015 #607
Gross? Wow...I would get in trouble if I posted pics here of what I think is gross NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #626
+1 one_voice Feb 2015 #631
This is soft porn Warpy Feb 2015 #90
No it's not. zappaman Feb 2015 #91
Can you hear ohheckyeah Feb 2015 #99
i believe "he" is a "she". as are most of the posters saying it's porn. whereas their opposition ND-Dem Feb 2015 #303
Yep. hifiguy Feb 2015 #107
"this isn't art...It's to sell magazines" Nuclear Unicorn Feb 2015 #127
Not Art? CBGLuthier Feb 2015 #205
I like how you are the interpretor of art - thank you thought police titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #401
Well, how many teenage boys.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #157
When I was a teenage boy, I could "use" a Sears catalog or zappaman Feb 2015 #158
You know my point... But I'll oblige you. Adrahil Feb 2015 #161
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This isn't about sex... Adrahil Feb 2015 #315
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No the fuck it isn't .... And by the way... Adrahil Feb 2015 #321
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See... More of the same bullshit. Adrahil Feb 2015 #325
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Good points! nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #328
Warren.... you need to a take a class on cultural analysis. Adrahil Feb 2015 #335
Women package themselves, men don't drive the market pipoman Feb 2015 #342
Yeah, none of that has to do with a patriarchal culture. Right. n/t Adrahil Feb 2015 #362
Right.... pipoman Feb 2015 #369
I figured someone would use the "P word" in this thread. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #476
Adrahil, I share many of your misgivings about social hierarchy and sexual objectification, but... Threedifferentones Feb 2015 #376
I appreciate the thoughtful post. Adrahil Feb 2015 #419
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I couldn't have said it better if I'd thought about it for a month. hifiguy Feb 2015 #427
Nope.. I was just identifying that... Adrahil Feb 2015 #430
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I would dread my daughter growing up... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #491
You are wasting your breath....very disheartening, that men on a liberal site adigal Feb 2015 #539
One can be sex positive while against commodifying women. alp227 Feb 2015 #498
I would like to see the research correlating that more acceptance of porn adigal Feb 2015 #538
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Anybody who switches parties because of a swimsuit cover... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #633
You really think this will affect Hillary Clinton's campaign? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #616
I imagine many half-wits pretend it says merely one thing LanternWaste Feb 2015 #393
Ah, echo-man wants to insult my intelligence. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #420
Nope, it just makes it worse! ;) n/t Adrahil Feb 2015 #428
I imagine it's some sort of affectation, like wearing a fez or calling everyone "mac" Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #432
"The purpose of this cover it titillation" NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #189
So if someone finds me attractive on the basis of my physical appearance, that means Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #191
Your post is useless without pictures. Vattel Feb 2015 #200
Oooh, you wish. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #201
Did I say that? No, I didn't. Adrahil Feb 2015 #311
I live in South Florida titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #405
OK, you don;t get it. Fine. We'll move on. Adrahil Feb 2015 #415
LOL at good fight. TransitJohn Feb 2015 #482
What don't I get...humor me. titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #485
I guess you have a different opinion about the "good fight." NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #486
Being in a bathing suit on Sports Illustrated does NOT mean she's always polly7 Feb 2015 #195
Who said anything about being ashamed? Adrahil Feb 2015 #312
You said she'd always dreamed of being a sexual object. polly7 Feb 2015 #314
You can tell yourself whatever you like.... Adrahil Feb 2015 #320
That I just have always appreciated the human and animal form is pictures is polly7 Feb 2015 #322
There is a difference between appreciating the beauty of the human form... Adrahil Feb 2015 #336
What is represented about this woman? polly7 Feb 2015 #337
They are sexual objects to YOU, not me. tridim Feb 2015 #355
OK, Sure. Women aren't objectified in our culture. Gotcha. Adrahil Feb 2015 #363
Yes women and men are objectified in our culture, never claimed we weren't. tridim Feb 2015 #366
Ok, let's pretend you are right...then what is the purpose of the cover if not sexual adigal Feb 2015 #541
I agree, this is an exercise in futility on this thread. prayin4rain Feb 2015 #544
Yes, objecting to the commodification is being intertwined with objecting to the body or sex adigal Feb 2015 #549
Anytime! prayin4rain Feb 2015 #551
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+1000 smirkymonkey Feb 2015 #567
You said that, not her and it's pretty damn insulting. RiffRandell Feb 2015 #217
That's a new one... Who am I to judge? Adrahil Feb 2015 #313
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It's only okay to judge models and make fun of their intellect, looks RiffRandell Feb 2015 #472
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You mean Valentine's Day? RiffRandell Feb 2015 #495
Yep. V-Day and SI-day and 50 Shades day, all in one week. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #509
Now you are seriously freaking me the fuck out. RiffRandell Feb 2015 #577
Attractiveness to potential mates is the spring hifiguy Feb 2015 #425
hell BubbaFett Feb 2015 #378
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Not many pintobean Feb 2015 #181
Not my son... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #237
The problem is the blatant obectification, not the nudity. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #241
I guess I don't get as worked up about it as some. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #242
I probably wouldn't get worked up over it either if i was a man. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #246
Great answer. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #247
Circumcision is a tried and tested method of getting them to stop. Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #293
Ouch! That's not a happy thought! NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #295
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I love your post titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #406
Thank you for the compliment. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #457
How so? InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #222
Why would I do that? MineralMan Feb 2015 #36
I can assure you..... A HERETIC I AM Feb 2015 #60
LOL! MineralMan Feb 2015 #61
Well...I beg to differ. A HERETIC I AM Feb 2015 #63
You'd be wrong. zappaman Feb 2015 #72
You bet they do! PCIntern Feb 2015 #121
I don't like it staring me in the face at the checkout line. PassingFair Feb 2015 #106
I agree! zappaman Feb 2015 #113
Or adults who want sexual imagery in their sights, on THEIR terms not others'. alp227 Feb 2015 #499
You can't be serious. zappaman Feb 2015 #508
What do you disagree with me about? nt alp227 Feb 2015 #512
The SI Swimsuit issue "is as bad as walking around naked"? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #594
No, I said SHOWING THAT ISSUE IN A HIGHLY VISIBLE SPACE (checkout stand) is. alp227 Feb 2015 #595
Actually I love reading arguments like those. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #597
I agree...if I want to see 90% of a vagina, I'll go online adigal Feb 2015 #118
You can see "90% of her vagina"???? zappaman Feb 2015 #132
Borescopes. They're cheap these days. MineralMan Feb 2015 #135
Borescopes! Adsos Letter Feb 2015 #206
That could be the tag line. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #170
Kiddin"? No seriously are you kiddin'? Get out of here with that nonsense! OverBurn Feb 2015 #438
"picture her with hair" Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #268
Dude, you're killing me. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #271
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Lulz...nt Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #286
Omg ....... polly7 Feb 2015 #348
You won "DUzy of 2015," already. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #394
Yep. I think that one's nailed down. polly7 Feb 2015 #410
Oh shit no!! titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #407
Point, set and match hifiguy Feb 2015 #424
Oh no you dih'nt!... TeeYiYi Feb 2015 #489
So you're picturing her with hair and you think others have a problem with objectifying women? TransitJohn Feb 2015 #477
Agreed. hifiguy Feb 2015 #64
I agree! nt FLyellowdog Feb 2015 #9
Damn I need to research this. Anyone have a link? Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #92
Well, you posted a link to a story that includes the photo. Orsino Feb 2015 #340
you don't know much about porn BubbaFett Feb 2015 #377
nothing like porn. (not that i'd mind that either). it's naughty samsingh Feb 2015 #629
Of course it will be alerted on. MineralMan Feb 2015 #4
apparently 'no vulva, no hide' is not how it works n/t ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #17
4-3 to hide. Close. MineralMan Feb 2015 #19
it is just silly ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #23
I don't know. I'm opposed to objectifying women. MineralMan Feb 2015 #27
i'm not a big fan of objectification either ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #33
I can see it now: The SI Annual Naked Woman Issue. MineralMan Feb 2015 #40
indeed... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #45
I suspect Paul Simon still has kept a smut stash or two. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #185
Now all I hear is Bob Marley. "No vulva, no hide...no vuuuuulva, no hide" Throd Feb 2015 #506
glad I could help ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #525
No Vulva, No Hide. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #182
Perfect! zappaman Feb 2015 #184
Oh my goodness, that's pratically porn! Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #6
Here's the cover. If it gets hidden, I'll be gone for a month. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #11
see you in a month... ProdigalJunkMail Feb 2015 #18
Undoubtably. n/t zappaman Feb 2015 #20
The predictability of some borders on hifiguy Feb 2015 #66
Miscalcuated. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #636
A prediction make correctly. MineralMan Feb 2015 #21
Hannah Davis goes down GreatCaesarsGhost Feb 2015 #96
What I like the most is the intelligent look in her eyes <snark/> adigal Feb 2015 #129
Meow! zappaman Feb 2015 #133
Look at her eyes, really. Do you see anything in there? adigal Feb 2015 #139
This cover doesn't bother me, no. zappaman Feb 2015 #143
We know it doesn't bother you. :) adigal Feb 2015 #147
You sound jealous. woolldog Feb 2015 #176
You picked up on that too, eh? zappaman Feb 2015 #180
Of course....because her bio says she COULD HAVE gone to college, she's brilliant! Rhodes Scholar adigal Feb 2015 #262
The article indicates she was a top student. woolldog Feb 2015 #332
Are they going to say she's stupid?? And I have green eyes, most people love them, thanks!! Nt adigal Feb 2015 #389
Here's a whole list of vacuous models titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #409
Wow!!! Seven of them!! And do you seriously think Princeton didn't take Brooke Shields because she adigal Feb 2015 #450
So you think they're making up that she was a top student woolldog Feb 2015 #436
She probably was an athlete, she looks like one...my point is that any dinky little high school adigal Feb 2015 #451
You absolutely are objectifying her. woolldog Feb 2015 #480
Wow! HappyMe Feb 2015 #333
Just Wow! ProfessorGAC Feb 2015 #346
And Bill Frist thought he could see active intelligence and responses from a picture mythology Feb 2015 #534
Those who are misogynists here should be embarrassed, not me at all adigal Feb 2015 #536
... Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #183
Look out! zappaman Feb 2015 #187
She's apparently intelligent enough... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #166
That's an extremely shallow, low blow titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #408
I'm outraged! NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #164
pretty girl, fake boobs, shaved pubes, swimsuit pulled down. not selling swimsuits. ND-Dem Feb 2015 #307
Vax crack Jesus Malverde Feb 2015 #224
Someone did. It was alerted on and locked MoonRiver Feb 2015 #316
I'm sure this will create a hugely long thread on DU. MineralMan Feb 2015 #2
"I'm sure this will create a hugely long thread on DU." EX500rider Feb 2015 #598
Your teen-age sons would have seen it anyhow. HERVEPA Feb 2015 #5
I know he would have...but not with my permission adigal Feb 2015 #7
Takes me about as long to contemplate SI Swimsuit covers. nt Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #10
The point of this cover? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #175
I completely agree snooper2 Feb 2015 #22
is the objectification of men also disgusting? EX500rider Feb 2015 #50
No... sendero Feb 2015 #52
What national magazine did that appear on? onecaliberal Feb 2015 #54
So it's only objectification if it goes national? EX500rider Feb 2015 #55
I am merely pointing out that far fewer people onecaliberal Feb 2015 #57
Either it is "objectification" or it isnt. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #188
My point is my teen daughter isn't going to onecaliberal Feb 2015 #216
I have no problem with more men in sexy underwear ads. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #225
Getting a DVR doesn't help when we are standing in line onecaliberal Feb 2015 #350
Well thanks, at least, for that. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #417
"It just happen to men FAR less." sibelian Feb 2015 #244
Google search of specific term = all television, print, news F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #282
That might be a valid criticism... sibelian Feb 2015 #585
And yet, one annual magazie issue somehow = ALL media, ALL of society's expecations for ALL women Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #606
How many theaters will screen THIS opus?? MADem Feb 2015 #449
Bit of a difference. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #65
+1,000! n/t zazen Feb 2015 #93
Agreed. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #234
Riiiight... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #240
It's not a double standard. it's history. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #274
LOL...good one! NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #276
X10000000 onecaliberal Feb 2015 #352
Oh, no--the "N" word comparison. Has this discussion jumped the shark? MADem Feb 2015 #460
No, there's not enough of that. closeupready Feb 2015 #85
Lol F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #238
I wouldn't call it porn mythology Feb 2015 #12
I think a better standard would be F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #70
I guess that depends on how one defines the word enjoy mythology Feb 2015 #535
"Close to porn" LOL. zappaman Feb 2015 #13
This will not end well. Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #14
Agree 100% adigal Feb 2015 #32
+1 well said. nt. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #67
And who creates the culture? The people who comprise it. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #264
And the past 2000+ years of oppression don't matter? F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #287
No, I dont believe a woman in a bathing suit on a magazine cover equates in any fucking way, shape, Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #288
I kind of doubt that Hannah Davis... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #289
If you dont hate the SI swimsuit issue, you support stuff like lynching. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #290
Yeah, I never could quite connect all of those dots last year... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #292
Yeah, that and keeping a tally on the amount of recs RiffRandell Feb 2015 #418
Oh, they're RAMPED up for this year. Ready. Damn issue isn't even out yet. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #421
LOL! polly7 Feb 2015 #426
Thanks hon! RiffRandell Feb 2015 #496
I missed all the funny, brilliant people. polly7 Feb 2015 #532
oh busy busy busy Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #520
Fishing is time consuming, isn't it? betsuni Feb 2015 #527
I find fishing boring. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #528
Oh, Captain Ahab, I doubt you find fishing dull. betsuni Feb 2015 #530
No, actually, you've got it backwards. And someone needs to break the news to her Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #568
The whale knows. RiffRandell Feb 2015 #579
LOL, I couldn't have added anything more to that thread if I'd tried, still makes me laugh. polly7 Feb 2015 #533
For most of that 2000 years this woman would be outcast as a whore pipoman Feb 2015 #349
Yes, we should just be thankful we're not subjected to prayin4rain Feb 2015 #385
She's 24. That's not "barely legal". pintobean Feb 2015 #390
Utter nonsense pipoman Feb 2015 #392
NOBODY has implied she should not be free to pose for prayin4rain Feb 2015 #413
No, there sure are a lot hereabouts pipoman Feb 2015 #414
Yeah, get in line, I've been accused of thinking like the prayin4rain Feb 2015 #448
"I have no desire to chastise her, or anyone who enjoys looking"... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #615
If you click the hyperlinks in this site prayin4rain Feb 2015 #624
Okay, I don't think I'll click on that link. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #625
Ummmm.... I see skin but no genitalia or even nipples. Not porn (nt) Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #15
Here's porn then: bhikkhu Feb 2015 #204
Of course there is one rule for concealed female genitalia and another for stone penises. Nye Bevan Feb 2015 #214
I stand corrected. The Photo OP was hidden. MineralMan Feb 2015 #16
I didn't post the picture nt adigal Feb 2015 #25
Yes, I know. You did help us find it, though. MineralMan Feb 2015 #42
I've got four, too much risk for me, your TURN! snooper2 Feb 2015 #26
Not my thing. I'm an old man. MineralMan Feb 2015 #28
Luck of the draw when it comes to juries. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #173
I seem to remember the debate last year degrading into shaved / unshaved. hunter Feb 2015 #24
No photos of you in your birthday suit, please. MineralMan Feb 2015 #30
I would never hide that MM!!! nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #102
The situation will never occur, MineralMan Feb 2015 #134
I don't consider the human body porn. tridim Feb 2015 #31
In a different context but now when used to sell sports adigal Feb 2015 #35
I think you make a good point. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #79
If your daughter sold the photos she took (or paid the models) would that make it porn? onenote Feb 2015 #117
Exactly. n/t zappaman Feb 2015 #38
I agree. Nudity does not = porn. n/t FSogol Feb 2015 #51
Yeah Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #171
Every year there is some goofy SI outrage around here. AngryAmish Feb 2015 #37
Close to looking like a Barbie doll's crotch... LeftinOH Feb 2015 #46
This is exactly the reaction SI wanted Auggie Feb 2015 #47
Outrage! Outrage I tell you! I am outraged that people would be outraged by this outrage! Rex Feb 2015 #48
Is this one different from the SSI last year? I'm not seeing the outrage!!!! Autumn Feb 2015 #53
Outrage! I am now outraged that this has not been alerted on yet! Rex Feb 2015 #56
Don't do a Walt Starr, Rex. hifiguy Feb 2015 #71
THAT'S IT I'M DOING IT! Rex Feb 2015 #75
LoL! hifiguy Feb 2015 #77
Maybe if you weren't so busy rolling around in chemical waste dumpsters zappaman Feb 2015 #74
Are you hinting at denying my right to roll around in waste dumpsters!?! Rex Feb 2015 #78
I'm just saying if you keep it up zappaman Feb 2015 #81
Yuck Face can't fly. Rex Feb 2015 #88
Ain't that the truth, Rex? hifiguy Feb 2015 #69
To pretend that Obama is all hunky dory with ISIS, now that he brought up Rex Feb 2015 #73
You know, it may not be a priority to you, or even perhaps a particularly pressing issue F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #86
If the model was forced to do it against her will hifiguy Feb 2015 #89
You're completely misrepresenting what I posted. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #94
A reasonable response. hifiguy Feb 2015 #97
No problem! I usually try and fail miserably :P F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #110
Yep, and then there are those of us who think hand-wringing over sex and depictions of nudity or Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #199
Yep, you're entitled to think the insidious and systematic obectification prayin4rain Feb 2015 #239
even better, I'm entitled to think "insidious and systematic objectification" is just what happens Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #256
It was a reasonably priced psychology degree, actually.. ... prayin4rain Feb 2015 #257
To me, at this point, I suspect it really depends on the ROI. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #258
Sometimes I wish I could be more practical, pragmatic at least, prayin4rain Feb 2015 #260
When taken to the extreme... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #265
"It's interesting that the far right and the far left have such similar views about sexual topics." prayin4rain Feb 2015 #267
Is there somewhere we can go to get this "education"? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #269
There is, of course, a correct way to think handed down from on high. hifiguy Feb 2015 #422
There are many studies that have applied the scientific prayin4rain Feb 2015 #494
When you can get to correlations hifiguy Feb 2015 #522
I'm unaware of any studies applying the scientific method conducted by MacKinnon n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #537
Best. Answer. Ever. BubbaFett Feb 2015 #379
I'm entitled to think that? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #259
No, sexual attraction and objectification are way different. alp227 Feb 2015 #503
If it's okay with you, I'll determine for myself... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #582
Eat that strawman. alp227 Feb 2015 #502
Thank heavens we have people to determine for us what constitutes "healthy sexual attraction". Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #510
Not just religious. alp227 Feb 2015 #511
Well if Dr. Perrin Elisha, Aspen Psychiatrist and Therapist says it's true, it MUST be! Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #514
One can find women in bathing suits attractive and oppose the commodification of such. alp227 Feb 2015 #516
So if the same woman is on the beach in the same suit, it's okay to find her attractive. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #517
That's what is so ridiculous about his responses adigal Feb 2015 #542
And it's a fucking SHAME he's allowed to host the main forums. nt alp227 Feb 2015 #562
"allowed"? I signed up. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #608
You know what you should do? You should go to admin and demand that I be taken off of the Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #614
Ah yes. The ol' "no true Liberal" argument. Well played. Orrex Feb 2015 #565
Aren't you the one who called the model stupid? melman Feb 2015 #612
Your definition of "healthy sexuality" is not objective, or science-based, it's a completely Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #609
An intelligent response! There is still some intelligence here! adigal Feb 2015 #122
Is this one of those... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #632
Imagine how worked up DU would get kentauros Feb 2015 #558
We Must Do Something! Harrumph! :) TampaAnimusVortex Feb 2015 #635
Not porn at all. She looks great, btw LittleBlue Feb 2015 #49
No. Not porn. cherokeeprogressive Feb 2015 #58
No. Not even close, but thanks for the link to the Daily Heil.... truebrit71 Feb 2015 #59
That would depend on if she is pulling them on or pulling them off Tom Ripley Feb 2015 #62
Wait, huh? AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #68
Oh noes! Bare female skin!!!! Think of the children!!!! gcomeau Feb 2015 #76
So women in bathing suits now equals porn? bigwillq Feb 2015 #80
Yeah, it has for a while now AgingAmerican Feb 2015 #95
If she showed up tugging her bottoms down like that in NJ adigal Feb 2015 #120
Thank goodness I don't live in NJ bigwillq Feb 2015 #142
Maybe she's putting her bikini bottoms on Orrex Feb 2015 #178
You know....you need to visit some of the NJ nude beaches. It might do you good. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #395
Also go see what goes on at night HappyMe Feb 2015 #397
At any Jersey rest stop, friend.....nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #400
To steal from one of my favorite shows mythology Feb 2015 #540
At least we know she shaves her pubes off. fasttense Feb 2015 #82
You know, I've had a couple of model friends. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #291
Perhaps, but why exploit your looks when you could exploit your intellect? fasttense Feb 2015 #344
Some people manage to do both. MineralMan Feb 2015 #359
You know, wether you are flipping burgers at McD's or using your good looks robbob Feb 2015 #403
Or Maybe there is something wrong with a system you can gin? n/t fasttense Feb 2015 #547
My son can model, he's been approached by agents adigal Feb 2015 #543
Your son has found a way to avoid the dead end exploitation of his physical beauty fasttense Feb 2015 #550
"but why exploit your looks when you could exploit your intellect?" EX500rider Feb 2015 #599
which seems pretty ......smart, actually. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #610
Yuck, that's gross. closeupready Feb 2015 #83
It's not Porn bpj62 Feb 2015 #84
On The First Day Of DU, The Admins Gave To Me Rex Feb 2015 #87
First literal laugh-out-loud moment in weeks. OneGrassRoot Feb 2015 #103
You forgot smoking. The Straight Story Feb 2015 #105
Hey - where have you been lately? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #227
Battling the evil hordes on our sister site. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. The Straight Story Feb 2015 #228
I never did sign up over there. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #229
Uhh...it's more complicated than that. alp227 Feb 2015 #504
Finish the song! You have seven more days to go! kwassa Feb 2015 #193
Lol!! Kaleva Feb 2015 #197
Maybe next is: six 2016 polls, and seven anti-vaxxers? (n/t) Jim Lane Feb 2015 #330
Love it Marrah_G Feb 2015 #622
It's amazing that in a progressive forum, a bikini is seen as oppression davidn3600 Feb 2015 #98
Did you seriously miss the point? Bikinis are fine, I grew up in one adigal Feb 2015 #119
"It's pulling it down so most of your vagina is showing" zappaman Feb 2015 #130
Mons pubs is showing and another mm her labias would be showing. Happy now?? Nt adigal Feb 2015 #141
Well, at least now we know zappaman Feb 2015 #145
Do you know what a vagina looks like? I see none of it showing! Nt Logical Feb 2015 #590
Do you think she's about to take a swim and prayin4rain Feb 2015 #232
"What do you think the purpose of the photo is?" NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #249
+1000 adigal Feb 2015 #261
Reply #50 in this thread. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #272
Well said. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #294
Ah, the good old days of Sunshine and Health... hunter Feb 2015 #388
Me too! My artist parents walked around naked all the time. betsuni Feb 2015 #479
All right....just fir you: EX500rider Feb 2015 #600
Oh, yeah, that's more like it -- I has a thrill up my leg betsuni Feb 2015 #605
Posting to make it an even 100 onenote Feb 2015 #100
Oh, please SI has always done this. MicaelS Feb 2015 #101
And heeeeeeere we go! LadyHawkAZ Feb 2015 #104
You have it in one! hifiguy Feb 2015 #108
Yes... look at the hysteria and outrage! PassingFair Feb 2015 #109
The usual purveyors of outrage and hysteria hifiguy Feb 2015 #114
They might be getting ready for next week. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #209
oh but it appears that there is LadyHawkAZ Feb 2015 #398
The 50 Shades of Grey Suckfest Movie Threads are Next Week....nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #396
I know, I can't wait. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #620
We have be careful....my 50 shades thread got locked.....nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #621
Sports Illustrated: An agent of chaos lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #423
... benz380 Feb 2015 #115
No. Not porn. Typical beachwear most places, in many places women wear far less riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #124
On a Brazilian beach she'd be considered wildly overdressed. hifiguy Feb 2015 #154
Yup. SI swimsuit edition is quite tame compared to RL on many beaches riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #156
That is ridiculous. applegrove Feb 2015 #126
She doesn't have any hair down there? Blue_Tires Feb 2015 #128
Thank God :) Reter Feb 2015 #208
None of the young girls? Vomit. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #235
I think what he is saying is that it is a trend in the younger generation Marrah_G Feb 2015 #623
I think that's probably not true. I also think that you probably have not MineralMan Feb 2015 #360
By young girls I meant like her age Reter Feb 2015 #412
She must have had everything lasered... 3catwoman3 Feb 2015 #211
The pic is completely and totally airbrushed taught_me_patience Feb 2015 #213
No not at all, porn requires penatration, however slight, to be porn ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #131
Well aren't you one uninformed individual.... giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #138
Yes I get that for the purposes of this discussion SI is not Porn at all ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #273
Don't buy, read, or look at... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #275
Threads like this are interesting it shows who is liberal and progressive and who is an uptight ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #278
I agree. It's like everybody shows their cards. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #279
I will just lurk when it comes out why argue over something silly and pointless ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #280
Is it still in business? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #281
As far as I know it is. I wonder if memebrs of congress still get their free ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #283
I didn't know about the free subscriptions. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #284
You didn't know that, it was big news back when he started ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #285
They ALWAYS do. hifiguy Feb 2015 #431
Meta Sounds like fun! they should bring it back ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #442
How to describe Meta? hifiguy Feb 2015 #481
So Meta was like dropping a hand grenade in a room full of people! My kinda place! ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #526
Yeah, for the record I wasn't referring to this stupid giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #331
Outside of Kiddie Porn, Real Porn requires penetration otherwise it is art! ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #341
Really? You know what they say when you assume giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #343
Sorry Charlie, BDSM is art to many, and one could also make a good argument that bukkake is art ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #345
Wow, you are really a fuckin piece of work.... giftedgirl77 Feb 2015 #347
Some could call it performance art, who am I to judge what is good or bad art ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #351
Hmm...you appear to have an extensive knowledge of this sort of thing. MineralMan Feb 2015 #361
I get around, not all art is in fancy art galleries ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #364
I see. MineralMan Feb 2015 #365
Unless you get out between 2 am and 6 am I doubt we ran into each other. ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #368
This. This right here is objectification at it's worst. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #296
Who are you quoting? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #301
Dang phone. Fixed. Thank you. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #304
Yeah, no problem. I don't even know how to post from my phone. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #306
So I am f-ed up why do you care? You don't know me, I don't know you. So feel good about ChosenUnWisely Feb 2015 #358
Not porn but she shaves right to the edge of the naughty bits so we got that question answered. Monk06 Feb 2015 #136
I don't get it olddots Feb 2015 #137
OMG! 99Forever Feb 2015 #140
Why complain about supposed complaining? Just move along. Thanks! :) nt adigal Feb 2015 #144
Do I tell you what to comment on? 99Forever Feb 2015 #146
You are so funny!!! You just characterized what I said as "crap" adigal Feb 2015 #153
I have zero patience... 99Forever Feb 2015 #160
And I have zero interest in your rudeness adigal Feb 2015 #263
Rude is telling... 99Forever Feb 2015 #329
Um, this, times a googolplex. hifiguy Feb 2015 #433
I get a chuckle out of prudes and censors. 99Forever Feb 2015 #443
I take it you don't want any actual discussion then. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #186
I grew up in Las Vegas Nevernose Feb 2015 #149
Sounds about like the right way to do it. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #297
I thought the SI Swimsuit Wars didn't start until next week. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #150
If you think this, you haven't been following Jeter's career adigal Feb 2015 #155
So now you're telling us what Derek Jeters parents will think? zappaman Feb 2015 #159
No, I haven't followed his career too much... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #163
Next week is the 50 Shades of Grey Suckfest Movie Opening. It's best to get this done early. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #399
Good point. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #458
And as usual, we get a thread hundreds of posts long over a magazine cover... nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #151
The vaccine wars were getting old. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #190
True. Very true. nomorenomore08 Feb 2015 #192
Now that's hot Android3.14 Feb 2015 #152
I assume you have never seen porn! LOL, so silly! nt Logical Feb 2015 #162
Is it that time of year already? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #165
It's a week early according to my timeline. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #174
"practically porn"? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #167
Quick someone call Justice Potter Stewart Kurska Feb 2015 #218
Potter Stewart reference: You Beat Me To It. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #223
.... Kurska Feb 2015 #226
It looks like a CGI (computer generated image) indie9197 Feb 2015 #172
Good heavens! A magazine cover was retouched?!? Orrex Feb 2015 #177
Nudity, of even semi-nudity, isn't porn. nt MrScorpio Feb 2015 #179
omg L0oniX Feb 2015 #196
Okay, folks. I fixed it for ya. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #198
Now that is awesome! NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #202
I wanted to make it so the nun is actually coming out of her bathing suit Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #203
! opiate69 Feb 2015 #210
LMAO! nt. polly7 Feb 2015 #531
You are giving them free dvertisement. CentralMass Feb 2015 #207
Bikinis on a farm? Does she have a tractor story? betsuni Feb 2015 #212
Right? It's a ridiculous picture, no purpose except to push the envelope as far as they can adigal Feb 2015 #266
You think that's as far as they can push the envelope? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #270
But it wasn't a man in a fig leaf. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #298
"That's the real problem here." NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #299
So discussing sexism and objectification F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #302
Absolutely you can discuss it. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #305
evidence would be great! Snow Leopard Feb 2015 #596
"Seems like Gloria Steinem wasted her time" LittleBlue Feb 2015 #461
warning: gratuitous flashing of body parts onenote Feb 2015 #215
Don't be surprised if this draws an alert. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #221
Here. F4lconF16 Feb 2015 #300
Thank you for a wildy entertaining thread! zappaman Feb 2015 #219
I didn't see Jeter's pic or name, so no, not porn. bluedigger Feb 2015 #220
It clearly fits the definition of porn. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #230
The entire purpose of the photo is to be sexually enticing. Isn't that the definition of porn? DebJ Feb 2015 #231
Exactly. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #233
So anything that is sexually enticing is porn? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #243
When you are exposing your genitalia, yes. n/t DebJ Feb 2015 #354
What genitalia is being exposed? nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #402
Mons pubis n/t DebJ Feb 2015 #444
I can't see her mons. nt msanthrope Feb 2015 #446
I had to google what that even is... Agschmid Feb 2015 #501
So any popular movie that involves a sex scene is porn? killbotfactory Feb 2015 #245
pictures, books, movies. ... prayin4rain Feb 2015 #248
Wow. Pornography is way more respectable than I thought. nt killbotfactory Feb 2015 #250
Have you ever read Gone With the Wind? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #252
That's not MY definition. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #253
Okay, well nice talking with you. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #254
Porn if it is for men. "Erotica" if it is for women. nt Bonobo Feb 2015 #251
That's true, too. That double standard does exist. n/t prayin4rain Feb 2015 #255
Al Goldstien, publisher of Screw magazine, once offered this... msanthrope Feb 2015 #404
That's a nearly perfect definition, but I offer one caveat... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #464
I prefer to read it. msanthrope Feb 2015 #466
I'll check that out. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #470
It's risqué killbotfactory Feb 2015 #236
Vintage Sports Illustrated Swimsuit cover. edbermac Feb 2015 #308
Some of those knees are bare. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #309
Has anyone got a link to last year's thread? Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #310
Here ya go -- HappyMe Feb 2015 #317
Thanks, HappyMe. I'm all prepared now for this years attempt to break the trainwreck record.... Violet_Crumble Feb 2015 #324
Good to see you too. HappyMe Feb 2015 #326
Absurd...a pilot being burned alive doesn't keep people from having other concerns adigal Feb 2015 #374
I briefly skimmed it and see the author of this OP is mysteriously RiffRandell Feb 2015 #383
Aaaah! Ugly shoe porn! HappyMe Feb 2015 #384
Awesome! Thanks. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #589
I vote no. nt johnson_z Feb 2015 #318
When you see a thread complaining about the SI cover that means... Yavin4 Feb 2015 #334
Don't worry mom...your teenage sons have actual porn for their sexual pleasure... pipoman Feb 2015 #339
I remember the days when I used to LOOK FORWARD to this issue. Frank Cannon Feb 2015 #356
Based on your third sentence, a suggestion for you... tridim Feb 2015 #357
????? hifiguy Feb 2015 #601
Back in my day we had to walk up hill in the snow for our porn n/t Yavin4 Feb 2015 #367
I'm not that old....i had to hide it between my mattress and box spring pipoman Feb 2015 #370
I remember going in to the back room of video stores to rent porn Yavin4 Feb 2015 #371
Lol...I remember that... pipoman Feb 2015 #382
You were going to the wrong video stores, then. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #453
Didn't realize we had so many Amish posting here on DU. Frank Cannon Feb 2015 #353
In this case the nudity is being shoved in everyone's face. alp227 Feb 2015 #505
I wonder how people would feel about this cover if it showed Bettie Feb 2015 #372
Can you imagine?? They put a size 16 woman into one of their editions this year adigal Feb 2015 #373
There would be wailing and rending of clothing (metaphorically) Bettie Feb 2015 #375
Really? People made those comments here? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #441
No, it wasn't here. And you just referred me back to this thread. nt adigal Feb 2015 #452
i know I did. I think it's funny that you're bemoaning the bad-mouthing of SI swimsuit models Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #455
Oh, another faux-clever response. How cute. But this is a serious issue, and many women are adigal Feb 2015 #459
You're trying to change the subject. You were complaining about people bad-mouthing the models. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #465
OK, Warren, let me say this simply adigal Feb 2015 #468
I thought last year's cover was better, the 3 women were curvier. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #469
"But this is a serious issue" EX500rider Feb 2015 #602
This is a serious issue? NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #618
I'd be fine with that. polly7 Feb 2015 #380
Right, last year some people were goin' on all day long about how no one can look like the 3 Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #439
No images of the prophet muhammad or of women in bikinis seems to be a theme with some folks The Straight Story Feb 2015 #462
Doubleplusbad wrongthink! Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #467
Do you suppose that men appear on a lot of magazine covers without makeup and photoshopping? Orrex Feb 2015 #488
Why do many of the posts in this thread BubbaFett Feb 2015 #381
Not even close. In_The_Wind Feb 2015 #386
Jeter's relationship with parents dies from case of the vapors.... nt ChisolmTrailDem Feb 2015 #387
"It's porn!" "No it isn't!" Yawn. Grow up. Don't look at it if you don't like it. yellowcanine Feb 2015 #391
That's a BS answer when it is openly displayed at the supermarket adigal Feb 2015 #456
Maybe they should TALK to their daughters. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #490
So you are assuming they don't??? So if a girl is affected by media images, that means her mother adigal Feb 2015 #493
Interesting that my daughter... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #583
Then file a complaint with your supermarket's management davidn3600 Feb 2015 #515
Are you seriously posting a Daily Mail article that describes a woman as the property of Derek Jeter Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #411
disgusting! Stellar Feb 2015 #429
Does the picture arouse you? If not then it is not porn, if so then yes it is porn. Rex Feb 2015 #440
I'm a 40 year old hetero titaniumsalute Feb 2015 #487
Coffee Porn! Major Nikon Feb 2015 #546
oooo. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #581
Threads like these expose DU's servers/software LittleBlue Feb 2015 #445
I've been noticing that a lot lately on longer threads. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #471
This is why there's a trash button on a thread. nt TeamPooka Feb 2015 #447
Community standards apply whenever the subject is porn. BootinUp Feb 2015 #454
Yesterday's "Nightline" did a story about the cover but wouldn't show it ... betsuni Feb 2015 #463
It would be porn if someone had just lit her on fire randr Feb 2015 #473
Sweet! It's totally time for another round of good old fashioned DU prudery! TransitJohn Feb 2015 #475
Finding women in bikinis attractive is apparently "unhealthy sexuality" Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #519
This thread has now handily passed the # of posts in this classic of hifiguy Feb 2015 #483
Batten Down Teh Hatches Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #484
Aye Aye, Captain! RiffRandell Feb 2015 #500
Now you're just Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #518
Well... antiquie Feb 2015 #555
Heavens! How did the universe survive? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #571
The bellybutton alone antiquie Feb 2015 #576
**Sigh** NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #588
LOL! hifiguy Feb 2015 #521
Indeed. hifiguy Feb 2015 #523
I would hold open the door for someone buying the spiderwoman comic The Straight Story Feb 2015 #524
That's just pure and simple plain old misogyny! NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #586
Lol. The moral outrage here definitely compares well to the religious right at times. Calista241 Feb 2015 #548
Porn by religious 1915 standards.... steve2470 Feb 2015 #553
well goddamn, this sure is a shiny object. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #554
Crap man, did you just get here? Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #570
Yes, I just arrived on the scene, but I can't stay. DisgustipatedinCA Feb 2015 #574
Watch out for the carniverous plants. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #575
Not my type. Too skinny and boney. It's not porn to me 'cause she looks just silly. BlueJazz Feb 2015 #572
STUPID PICTURE. trueblue2007 Feb 2015 #578
I just checked out last year's SI Swimsuit thread. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #591
Will this 2015 SI cover thread eclipse the 2014 thread in replies? aikoaiko Feb 2015 #593
I don't see any pubes so it isn't porn. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #611
That's, like, a whole 'nother fight. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #613
I must have missed those. NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #617
It was truly a thing to behold. Warren DeMontague Feb 2015 #619
What they really want is to tell EVERYONE what they should or shouldn't do... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #630
People who are offended by and made uncomfortable by the human body or the act of sex NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #627
i love this cover. samsingh Feb 2015 #628
porn is the porn of DU WhaTHellsgoingonhere Feb 2015 #634
Some very inportant info on this thread.. Stuart G Feb 2015 #637
This is the thread that never ends, yes it goes on and on my friend. Some people started replying to FSogol Feb 2015 #638
And so forth... NaturalHigh Feb 2015 #639
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