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Yo_Mama

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34. Science doesn't have much to do with belief, does it?
Sat Feb 7, 2015, 10:34 PM
Feb 2015

Conviction, maybe, if you find the evidence for one scientific hypothesis more convincing than another. Because science is a system developed on evidence, it is reasonable to doubt any piece of it until you can find strong evidence suggesting your doubt is wrong - that is in fact what scientists DO - but even then you may not be right.

Certain parts of science have such strong evidence that we can take them as fact. Others are less supported.

For example, before this flu season we would have assumed that the flu vax would be far more effective than it turned out to be. You would have been sensible to conclude that getting the flu shot gave you much better odds against getting the flu than in fact resulted.

I think people who talk about science, or any branch of it, as if it is all one entire black box that must be accepted in toto or rejected in toto are missing the point entirely.

As for medical science and climate science, they are both fascinating endeavors with high levels of uncertainty at some points, and both are fields of science in which our knowledge is growing rapidly, so things we thought we knew one decade turn out not to be true the next decade.

People believe what they want. TexasProgresive Feb 2015 #1
I can "believe in" medical science, yet not in every. single. element. of it. "Science" is always WinkyDink Feb 2015 #2
If "belief" is a part of science for you, you're doing it wrong. WestCoastLib Feb 2015 #3
How do you explain people who think climate change is real onecaliberal Feb 2015 #4
I suspect that it's more often the other way around Fumesucker Feb 2015 #14
There are no scientific studies that say vaccines cause autism. Marr Feb 2015 #16
They are using science (poorly) to support their beliefs... WestCoastLib Feb 2015 #20
"Science" isn't what people believe in, or not tkmorris Feb 2015 #21
A science based on a single scientific method is most certainly a belief HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #22
Thanks, I was trying to think of how to say that. (nt) enough Feb 2015 #9
I just don't understand those folks. I also don't think they are liberal if they don't believe onecaliberal Feb 2015 #10
You correct, but the word "believe" is often used... Adrahil Feb 2015 #25
Yes, thanks for explaining that better than I ever could. onecaliberal Feb 2015 #35
depends Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #5
I'm not talking about religion. Just purely science. onecaliberal Feb 2015 #6
there are two things that go by the name of science Man from Pickens Feb 2015 #18
Very well stated. n/t Crunchy Frog Feb 2015 #39
It's possible, but it's not very logical, if one subscribes to the Scientific Method KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #7
Exactly. Not logical. No critical thought. onecaliberal Feb 2015 #8
You can believe in science as a process while also knowing that part of the process pnwmom Feb 2015 #11
Excellent post. I would go further and say all science should be subject to KingCharlemagne Feb 2015 #17
There's a small shitload (and I do mean shitload) of scientists who are creationists. hunter Feb 2015 #12
Science isn't about 'belief'. Marr Feb 2015 #13
Define "believe in medical science" mzmolly Feb 2015 #15
Yes, there's the rub daredtowork Feb 2015 #33
As you note, there are nuances. mzmolly Feb 2015 #41
Yup. Igel Feb 2015 #19
Very good explanation. Thank you! onecaliberal Feb 2015 #23
Excellent post salib Feb 2015 #29
I think most eveyone does this to some degree. Kaleva Feb 2015 #24
Anti vaxxers confuse for profit RX companies who might very well lie and harm for profit NoJusticeNoPeace Feb 2015 #26
Absolutely. Especially if one is familiar with one topic and not another. arcane1 Feb 2015 #27
Science is a method to produce theories, you can support 1 theory but not another based on evidence on point Feb 2015 #28
Right. E.G whereas testing the hypothesis that a rise in reported autism cases was related to MMR Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #36
That's a misunderstanding of "theory" Spider Jerusalem Feb 2015 #40
Vaccines are technology and not science per se exboyfil Feb 2015 #30
I think people tend to engage in confirmation bias. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #31
yes roguevalley Feb 2015 #32
Science doesn't have much to do with belief, does it? Yo_Mama Feb 2015 #34
You can agree with the idea of scientific methodology in its pure form but luke102938 Feb 2015 #37
Some science is done well, and some is done badly. Crunchy Frog Feb 2015 #38
If you are a complete dumbass - anything is possible jpak Feb 2015 #42
I don't think science is something to "believe." LWolf Feb 2015 #43
Of course. There are millions of examples of people doing just that. JHB Feb 2015 #44
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