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Thank you for this post. Hillary Clinton 2016 misterhighwasted Feb 2015 #1
People want her to be "economically progressive." joshcryer Feb 2015 #2
I hope you're wrong. That would mean all they want is revenge for losing their houses and jobs. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #3
What they don't understand is social policy *is* economic policy. joshcryer Feb 2015 #4
A third way I think is more effective RobertSF Feb 2015 #7
But the "hurt" we would put on the rich would not really hurt them. stillwaiting Feb 2015 #20
Good stuff. You support Elizebeth Warren? marble falls Feb 2015 #40
You don't need welfare? Who is going to take care of the elderly who are poor? Who is going to jwirr Feb 2015 #62
Very broad definition that sounds nice the way you try to put it Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #9
No you don't understand because you are socially secure. All you are saying is 'money matters more Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #45
It's not money, it's survival. Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #80
Welfare for impoverished people *is* redistribution from taxes Fumesucker Feb 2015 #10
Welfare is not redistribution. Please don't fall for the Republican trap. joshcryer Feb 2015 #93
The appearance of equal justice is almost as important as actual justice Fumesucker Feb 2015 #106
Every "ism" in this country means more profit for a capitalist and lower wages for all. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #13
Instead of calling it redistribution, call it SHARING instead meow2u3 Feb 2015 #25
Or rather, economic policy *is* social policy. Scuba Feb 2015 #31
Exactly right. The two can't be separated HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #46
Demonstrably false. joshcryer Feb 2015 #87
Demonstrably true. Scuba Feb 2015 #108
Name a state. joshcryer Feb 2015 #110
Mississippi. Scuba Feb 2015 #112
False. joshcryer Feb 2015 #113
From miserably poor to slightly less miserably poor is still poor. Scuba Feb 2015 #120
I know what I would like her to do hollowdweller Feb 2015 #50
No, *you* don't care. You're the one who's willing to sacrifice one for the other. Marr Feb 2015 #83
Not sacrifice, prioritize. joshcryer Feb 2015 #92
How many of us have to be in poverty to become a "priority"? winter is coming Feb 2015 #95
What should be done? joshcryer Feb 2015 #97
We need to reinstate Glass-Steagall, just for starters. winter is coming Feb 2015 #98
They tried with the Banking Integrity Act of 2009. joshcryer Feb 2015 #101
You're presenting a false choice: that we can only have either economic winter is coming Feb 2015 #103
Yes, and Dodd-Frank was 90%. joshcryer Feb 2015 #104
Dodd-Frank is being dismantled, in case you missed that. By both parties. nt RiverLover Feb 2015 #109
Not quite. joshcryer Feb 2015 #111
Both parties, right in front of us, and you deny it. Better Believe It means unbelievable here~ RiverLover Feb 2015 #114
Yes, and Dodd-Frank was 90%. joshcryer Feb 2015 #115
Read the article, learn something RiverLover Feb 2015 #118
It looks like we're okay with selling out people. winter is coming Feb 2015 #116
This is why we lose. joshcryer Feb 2015 #117
That's why the blue dogs lose. winter is coming Feb 2015 #119
I would argue the reverse. Economic populism is social justice. n/t lumberjack_jeff Feb 2015 #91
It would be good to remember this Caretha Feb 2015 #121
None of it matters if the 99% are all paupers Fumesucker Feb 2015 #6
When one is not equal under the law, one does not get equal opportunities. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #47
I don't have any argument with equal rights Fumesucker Feb 2015 #48
I agree 100% hollowdweller Feb 2015 #54
And yet some of the countries with the highest median incomes and low poverty rates Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #58
Your verbiage paints civil rights as part of a bargain that causes mass poverty. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #55
I think we are talking past each other Fumesucker Feb 2015 #57
Instead of discussing specifics I bring up, you lecture me Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #63
You are also quite the lecturer Fumesucker Feb 2015 #64
Good argument, so who is your candidate? MH1 Feb 2015 #70
Who has declared and put forth a platform they intend to run on? Fumesucker Feb 2015 #71
I don't know of anyone. Do you? MH1 Feb 2015 #74
There are certain unavoidable policy matters to consider. joshcryer Feb 2015 #94
Sure they want what they think is best, best for them and the people they know Fumesucker Feb 2015 #107
You're damned right they do Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #8
Dude, "social issues" are why we have a crap minimum wage and no universal health. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #15
Says a white, straight, male. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #49
Financial desires? Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #81
Because banks never make women homeless, just men n/t eridani Feb 2015 #11
That's pretty much the opposite of the truth nxylas Feb 2015 #12
Sanders and Warren don't say that, but look at this thread, many people stridently insist that Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #51
That is just not true in my case (and many others that agree with me). stillwaiting Feb 2015 #22
How do you think LGBT equality went from being the 'wedge issue that costs Democrats elections' to Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #65
I would say the most empowering thing you could do for American women Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #53
OMG Phlem Feb 2015 #77
Did you happen to notice the citation about women comprising a majority of the poor? Marr Feb 2015 #82
And you want people to take you seriously? Phlem Feb 2015 #86
Got an argument? joshcryer Feb 2015 #88
"They don't care about anything else." Phlem Feb 2015 #90
Why would they vote Republican? joshcryer Feb 2015 #96
Why would anyone vote Republican? Phlem Feb 2015 #99
Didn't think you had an argument. joshcryer Feb 2015 #102
Yep. In this model, having women represent 51% of Wal-Mart and Amazon warehouse workers is "equality Widget2000 Feb 2015 #100
I don't find that all that progressive RobertSF Feb 2015 #5
A speech from 1995?!? That is supposed to convince me HRC is progressive? She's a war hawk. peacebird Feb 2015 #14
Social justice is the key to a strong working class in this country. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #16
You do realize Bill Clinton wrecked welfare with his "welfare reform", right? RiverLover Feb 2015 #24
Yep, and even on their few social justice issues, DLC-types don't lead. They just cynically play the Marr Feb 2015 #84
No, the dismantling of democracy and the increase of authoritarianism and inequality woo me with science Feb 2015 #29
+1 Marr Feb 2015 #85
Hillary Supported the Iraq War hollowdweller Feb 2015 #56
A Democrat should be more than a Republican who is good on social issues eridani Feb 2015 #17
Nope McCamy Taylor. 99Forever Feb 2015 #18
Spot on. There's nothin progressive bout Hillary. It's all pretend with her & she's a lousy actress. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #38
Not this Third Way garbage again. Neoliberals shit on women and poor people. woo me with science Feb 2015 #19
+all the numbers. n/t winter is coming Feb 2015 #36
You nailed it. Hillary is a fraud and those of us who after informed see right through her phony shtick. InAbLuEsTaTe Feb 2015 #39
Here's the thing, a heck of a lot of people don't give a shit about "social policy" or "isms". Autumn Feb 2015 #21
One more time. Divide and Conquer, i.e. the "isms" is why we are poor. McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #23
So who's doing the dividing and conquering? Autumn Feb 2015 #26
Anyone who says we are too broke to care about "social issues" McCamy Taylor Feb 2015 #27
So if aspirant Feb 2015 #28
My opinion. The ones doing the divide and conquering are the ones in power Autumn Feb 2015 #30
When I was born, LGBT people were illegal, put in jail or institutions, marginalized and Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #68
It was clear in my post that the tossed bone I referred to was financial. Autumn Feb 2015 #72
$3,000,000,000,000 on the Iraq war Fumesucker Feb 2015 #34
The triangulators who decided it was okay to impoverish people as long as winter is coming Feb 2015 #35
Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas, member of "The Family". Scuba Feb 2015 #32
+1 The new meme, Hillary's a progressive says the Thirdway Phlem Feb 2015 #79
Hillary is a neoliberal. winter is coming Feb 2015 #33
+1000000000000000 woo me with science Feb 2015 #41
.... bigwillq Feb 2015 #44
Women's right, gay rights, etc... sendero Feb 2015 #37
And yet a few short years ago, all I heard from straight Democrats was that gay rights was a 'wedge Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #69
I'm insulting those. sendero Feb 2015 #73
is Hillary mercuryblues Feb 2015 #42
What party does she belong to? I forget Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #43
Women's issues are her one strong shining light. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #52
Social progressiveness isn't enough Spirochete Feb 2015 #59
We need someone who can do both. winter is coming Feb 2015 #60
I agree Spirochete Feb 2015 #61
But that's not what your first post communicated. Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #66
yep. Phlem Feb 2015 #78
This frequently breaks down into "there is no true Scotsmen" type argumentation. HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #67
That's the Hillary that I know and admire. Beacool Feb 2015 #75
By the 2010s, she was even bolder! MannyGoldstein Feb 2015 #76
What has her speech 20 years ago changed in the world? Ramses Feb 2015 #89
She's a Helluva Lot More Progressive Than Cruz! charles d Feb 2015 #105
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