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Agschmid

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26. Here we go again...

Mon Feb 16, 2015, 12:11 AM

Feb 2015

A new study suggests Obama had the most liberal voting record in 2007.

(CNN) - Barack Obama has demonstrated his appeal to independent voters and even some Republicans as he campaigns for president, though a just-released study from the National Journal indicates the Illinois Democrat was the most liberal senator in 2007.

Chief rival Hillary Clinton held the 16th most liberal voting record last year, the non-partisan survey of 99 major Senate votes found.

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Here are some ratings by organizations...

NARAL 100%
Planned Parenthood 100%
National Organization for Women 100%
Humane Society of United States 100%
Defenders of Wildlife Action Fund 100%
Sierra Club 90%
Human Rights Campaign 95%
ACLU 75%
NAACP 96%
National Council of La Raza 100%
PeacePAC 100%
Service Employees International Union 100%
Alliance for Retired Americans 100%
Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence 100%
League of Conservation Voters 100%

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The list goes on an on... it's a bull to say she isn't liberal.

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Stop!!! You must vote for the Lady from Goldman Sachs! [View all] JackRiddler Feb 2015 OP

well... wildbilln864 Feb 2015 #1

Easy choice for me, Hillary of course, dont need a republican for sure. Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #2

K&R Yep, that's certainly the "lesser of two evils" scam woo me with science Feb 2015 #3

you should really make this a post here Ramses Feb 2015 #14

i second that notion! TimeToEvolve Feb 2015 #33

I am all for saying what you want to say, so please don't misinterpret this: merrily Feb 2015 #86

insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different result. TimeToEvolve Feb 2015 #31

Good cop, bad cop. Maedhros Feb 2015 #90

badcop/worsecop elehhhhna Feb 2015 #134

... R. Daneel Olivaw Feb 2015 #40

Excellent post +1 Pooka Fey Feb 2015 #42

I'll endorse the "make this an OP" comment. Sad list. Scuba Feb 2015 #47

Excellent post. I totally agree. GoneFishin Feb 2015 #52

This: CrispyQ Feb 2015 #62

Good cop, bad cop game seems to work. Mimosa Feb 2015 #63

Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #82

+ a billion! SammyWinstonJack Feb 2015 #89

Yeah... Agony Feb 2015 #93

This belongs on the Greatest Page. hifiguy Feb 2015 #96

But, What about the Supreme Court? vt_native Feb 2015 #127

+ 1000 - Well Said cantbeserious Mar 2015 #147

Stop! Rex Feb 2015 #4

Jeez, it's going to be a LONG 2 years... JaneyVee Feb 2015 #5

It's going to be a GREAT 2 years! bigwillq Feb 2015 #16

10 years... SidDithers Feb 2015 #34

If truth be told, he'd probably be better on foreign policy. AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #6

Well I guess we know where you stand sharp_stick Feb 2015 #7

Yes, I'd like to not invade Syria and Iran. AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #15

You think Jeb would sharp_stick Feb 2015 #23

Speaking of Henry Kissinger (sic) AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #25

Hey, we can post pictures of your favorite 2016 candidate too: Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #50

Well, since you asked. AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #55

That might sting if I gave a damn. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #57

Not passionate enough to care who wins? AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #58

It would be, but I still don't care if she wins or loses the nomination. Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #59

Can I play? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #85

So you'd prefer the only Bush PNAC member? To avoid more Iraqs? Orsino Feb 2015 #64

In a match-up, I wouldn't vote for either of them. AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #69

That answers a different, if related, question. Orsino Feb 2015 #98

Yes, he wants to pretend we never invaded Iraq. RandySF Feb 2015 #11

Much less egregious than Hillary's expressed AtomicKitten Feb 2015 #17

Good luck with that. RandySF Feb 2015 #22

... Ykcutnek Feb 2015 #49

Nope. Never!!!!!!!!!!!!1111111111 bigwillq Feb 2015 #8

I'm not a Hillary fan Terra Alta Feb 2015 #9

Break out the Loyalty Oaths. Tierra_y_Libertad Feb 2015 #10

I wont vote for Republicans Ramses Feb 2015 #12

Not the point. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #13

if you dont want to vote for HRC arely staircase Feb 2015 #18

Hillary is not a Democrat Ramses Feb 2015 #20

And there are no true Scotsmen...yes, she is a democrat. We MUST face that HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #24

The Third Way was never a grass roots movement. woo me with science Feb 2015 #28

No doubt the DLC was elitist and 3rd Way is just rebranding that movement. HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #44

Here we go again... Agschmid Feb 2015 #26

Pro war, pro Wall Street, pro TPP, pro Keystone XL, pro H-1B visas, member of "The Family". Scuba Feb 2015 #48

^^^this!^^^ peacebird Feb 2015 #84

War is Peace! woo me with science Feb 2015 #92

Not to mention Jackson Stephens, Walmart and BCCI. Octafish Feb 2015 #122

Thanks Octafish. I'd never before heard of Stephens or BCCI. Scary stuff. Scuba Feb 2015 #138

You might enjoy some of the DUer summaries and connections from 2004, Scuba: Octafish Feb 2015 #139

Are you lacking in knowledge of Hillary's record or is determined from listening to Thinkingabout Feb 2015 #32

Yup. Agschmid Feb 2015 #46

What power you have: the ability to solely decide who is and isn't a Democrat..... brooklynite Feb 2015 #38

No, there are several of your seemingly less salonish that also seem to have such authority TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #141

you can call her Madame President soon arely staircase Feb 2015 #99

I will call her a REPUBLICAN, which HILLARY CLINTON is Ramses Feb 2015 #101

I dont give a shit what you call her arely staircase Feb 2015 #103

Which democrat are you talking about? nt Logical Feb 2015 #37

"I am sure we can elect a Democrat with out you." CrispyQ Feb 2015 #77

nobody blames the left arely staircase Feb 2015 #100

Then you haven't been reading DU. CrispyQ Feb 2015 #116

no. bullshit naderite neghead divisive assholes catch shit from actual liberal democrats arely staircase Feb 2015 #120

I'M NEVER EVER going to vote for Obama!!!!! Remember that? FUD is strong here uponit7771 Feb 2015 #124

voted for the MAN from goldman sachs twice nt msongs Feb 2015 #19

+1 nt RiverLover Feb 2015 #45

. MohRokTah Feb 2015 #21

... SidDithers Feb 2015 #27

With you. jwirr Feb 2015 #29

no, vote for whoever the fu*k you want, but anyone who doesn't vote for the Democratic nominee or still_one Feb 2015 #30

So many mistakes, where to start. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #67

The election fraud would not have been possible if it hadn't been so close in key states still_one Feb 2015 #72

You're confusing lawful with criminal. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #133

-1 Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #35

Who in the hell is "the lady from Goldman Sachs"? NYC Liberal Feb 2015 #36

Top donors to Sen. Hillary Clinton, career. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #39

+1 woo me with science Feb 2015 #41

+1 Phlem Feb 2015 #76

UBS thanks her in other ways. Octafish Feb 2015 #97

... RiverLover Feb 2015 #43

You mean that wall of text you posted Phlem Feb 2015 #78

+1000000000000 marym625 Feb 2015 #51

This is all getting pretty ridiculous. MineralMan Feb 2015 #53

Turnout. jeff47 Feb 2015 #60

Not even primary season yet aspirant Feb 2015 #73

No, actually I haven't done that. MineralMan Feb 2015 #74

You made your prediction on your own OP aspirant Feb 2015 #75

That post presumes name recognition as the centrally important issue. Bonobo Feb 2015 #105

But name recognition has a great influence on MineralMan Feb 2015 #112

If Hillary didn't suck so bad on MAJOR issues it sure would help.... /nt think Feb 2015 #79

So, who do you have in mind to oppose her in the primaries. MineralMan Feb 2015 #80

Kind of hard to say without knowing who's running. I'm not getting my hopes up. think Feb 2015 #83

Because every stinking time they name their preferred candidate ... Elizabeth Warren ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #88

You know... Bonobo Feb 2015 #107

What world was that and in what era? n/t 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #110

Jimmy Carter. Bonobo Feb 2015 #113

Really? ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #117

I was 10, so no. Bonobo Feb 2015 #118

Primaries are about policy positions and platform ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #119

Yeah, but... making up reality is so fun and.. and they actually don't have to think uponit7771 Feb 2015 #125

Two massively untrue statements are at the core of your post right there. Bonobo Feb 2015 #104

Watch the primaries. MineralMan Feb 2015 #114

See reply #105 for your syllogism. nt Bonobo Feb 2015 #115

It is my hope that Party leadership sees the negative attitude vis-a-vis Hillary as nominee Maedhros Feb 2015 #136

That's very unlikely. The national party organization MineralMan Feb 2015 #144

So you're saying that no matter what kind of groundswell we might create on social media Maedhros Feb 2015 #145

What groundswell are you talking about? MineralMan Feb 2015 #146

So I've been told. LWolf Feb 2015 #54

I believe you have hit it out of the park with this one. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #56

Thank you for kicking this important thread. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #66

Kicking again for the creative thought alone. nt. NCTraveler Feb 2015 #68

What would Goldman think of that? Octafish Feb 2015 #61

Some people will never get the point of this thread. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #65

If she's the nominee, I will because SCOTUS riderinthestorm Feb 2015 #70

Stop!!! I mustn't vote for the Lady from Goldman Sachs! Autumn Feb 2015 #71

I'm not exactly one of Hillary's biggest fans, but she's better than ANY Republican, for damn sure. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #81

How about we wait for people to actually run? bobclark86 Feb 2015 #87

I think that was kind of the point.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #94

Enough already we can do it Feb 2015 #91

Whee! We suck less than those mean Republicans! backscatter712 Feb 2015 #95

... cause life is 99.9% clear cut choices?... no.. come on people ... the "suck less" happens cause uponit7771 Feb 2015 #126

Pro choice, pro gay rights, pro progressive taxation, pro Social Security... brooklynite Feb 2015 #102

You left one pro out.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #108

"With us or against us!" My experience: it is not the Hillary supporters espousing this. Buzz Clik Feb 2015 #106

You're going to lose this argument. Primarily because it is thoughtless and stupid alcibiades_mystery Feb 2015 #109

The Lesser of Two Evils charles d Feb 2015 #111

Point being... JackRiddler Feb 2015 #121

Cause we're dealing with humans? uponit7771 Feb 2015 #128

Goldman Sachs 2016 L0oniX Feb 2015 #123

Let it out now ProudToBeBlueInRhody Feb 2015 #129

Smells just like 2007. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #132

Make sure to let us all know when you find a candidate who passes your ideological purity test! 6000eliot Feb 2015 #130

I suppose it's easier to have no standards whatsoever. JackRiddler Feb 2015 #131

Because of course there are only two possibilities. 6000eliot Feb 2015 #137

Some people! JackRiddler Feb 2015 #140

Pro choice, pro gay rights, pro progressive taxation, pro ACA, pro stable social security... brooklynite Feb 2015 #143

Why not cut to the chase and JEB Feb 2015 #135

The sick thing is... JackRiddler Feb 2015 #142