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madfloridian

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Sun Feb 22, 2015, 05:24 PM Feb 2015

Robert Reich said it well in 2001. "We Are All Third Wayers Now" 4 common ideas at the core. [View all]

Last edited Sun Feb 22, 2015, 08:44 PM - Edit history (1)

I wonder if he is surprised how hard these Third Way politics have been pushed in this country.

He said in 2001:

And in the two years since I left the administration I've also spoken with left-of-center political leaders around Europe and elsewhere, seeking to understand where they're heading. My verdict: There is a Third Way. But it's going to be extremely difficult to implement. Third Way politics are perilous.


We are all Third Wayers now.

Read the four common ideas of Third Way here and in Europe. I would say they have come a long way and done a lot of harm to ordinary people.

First: The Third Way rejects state ownership of the economy. This was never much of an issue in postwar America. Here, the closest analogy has been government regulation, where Bill Clinton's Third Way has largely followed the same path as his Republican predecessors' agenda, recently culminating in deregulation of telecommunications, electricity, and banking. In Britain, where state ownership had remained a glint in the eye of Old Labour, Tony Blair renounced the ambition early on. German Social Democrats used to talk about slowing down the privatization of former East German industries. No longer.

Second: Global trade and investment are inevitable, even desirable. Bill Clinton endorsed the North American Free Trade Agreement when he was running for president in 1992, got it enacted (to the severe discomfort of organized labor), went on to sign a new General Agreement on Tariffs and Trade which yielded a new World Trade Organization, and ran into trouble only when he tried to get congressional authority to move trade treaties quickly through Congress without amendment. But he's still trying. And Tony Blair is an outspoken trade enthusiast. While other center-left governments in Europe are hardly euphoric over free trade, none resist it. Schroeder and Jospin have talked vaguely about slowing down speculative flows of global capital and perhaps conditioning global commerce on some minimal social standards, but they have no interest in blocking trade and investment outright.


Now we have the TPP looming.

More:

Third: Labor markets should be reasonably "flexible"—that is, wages should be allowed to move up and down in response to changes in demand, and employers should have wide latitude in hiring and firing employees. Apart from some general talk about "corporate responsibility," Clinton has refrained from criticizing profitable companies that sharply downsize. Nor has Blair opted to constrain management. Jospin's French Socialists recognize the need for more flexibility, although Jospin is sticking to his plan to impose a 35-hour workweek. Germany's Schroeder talks openly about the need for Germany to become more competitive by cutting labor costs, although there's still quite a bit of confusion about what he intends to do.


Fourth, and the one that is so painful. Third Wayers are pretty obvious in letting the blame on deficits lie on our most vulnerable citizens.

Fourth: Social safety nets must be trimmed, and able-bodied people put to work. Bill Clinton campaigned to "end welfare as we know it," and ended up signing a law giving people a maximum of five years of welfare during their lifetimes. Tony Blair wants to move away from a guaranteed minimum family allowance. Here, too, Third Wayers in continental Europe and elsewhere are following behind, although more tentatively. They want to make the welfare state more flexible, not necessarily smaller.

Finally: Budget deficits must be slashed.


Balancing the budget on the backs of the vulnerable.

Tucked at the bottom of this very long article, I found his words about a nation.

A nation is more than a flag and an anthem; it is a collection of people who, because they are linked by culture and belief, are willing to pool certain of their resources so that all of their members have a fair chance of succeeding.


In spite of the very noisy voices from the libertarian-leaning teaparty right.....I think most people would describe their nation as Reich did.

ON EDIT Someone needs to remind me when I forget the link. That's twice in one week. Sorry about that.



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I'm all for the government helping able-bodied people find work. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Feb 2015 #1
I agree. madfloridian Feb 2015 #2
There are a great many employable people out there who are not hireable Fumesucker Feb 2015 #5
Age is the biggest one. JDPriestly Feb 2015 #21
Tell me about it.. Fumesucker Feb 2015 #22
I think they try but they are always behind the curve abelenkpe Feb 2015 #14
VFX is Video, Film and ? Also, didn't many of those LA jobs go to Canada? Thanx. appalachiablue Feb 2015 #34
Canada, New Zealand and the UK have generous subsidies abelenkpe Feb 2015 #35
Appreciate the info. & link; amazing work that goes into the film industry. Love it, enjoying appalachiablue Feb 2015 #38
the most general idea is unemployed equal surplus productivity HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #18
Able bodied people put to work is fine as long as there are decent jobs out there AZ Progressive Feb 2015 #3
Amen. I meant to include a comment on that issue in my OP. madfloridian Feb 2015 #6
Many people have also seemingly deleted the whole concept of aptitude TheKentuckian Feb 2015 #19
Every one of those principles has spawned untold suffering among the billions of Earth. Jackpine Radical Feb 2015 #4
The financiers have used that basic philosophy to enslave entire nations. HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #9
It was Confessions of an Economic Hit Man HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #10
Greece is fighting the EU about this! jwirr Feb 2015 #12
Is this what US/IMF/WB is doing to Venezuala? erronis Feb 2015 #24
Not sure, but it's been done all over the globe, if Ukraine burrows to buy arms HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #25
Cui bono? Jefferson23 Feb 2015 #7
Your sentence in italics at the end of your post says it all. madfloridian Feb 2015 #8
Already very disturbing, follow these trends out for a generation or two.... NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #11
But surely, Brooklyn needs more Hoovervilles!? HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #15
It ain't going to be like The Jetsons neighborhood. L0oniX Feb 2015 #28
That pic... madfloridian Feb 2015 #30
Detroit, Michigan. NYC_SKP Feb 2015 #33
Wow! abelenkpe Feb 2015 #36
Thank you for posting this picture. woo me with science Apr 2015 #45
Raygunomics republican style. Bill had us all fooled. jwirr Feb 2015 #13
But apparently not all his cabinet secretaries. HereSince1628 Feb 2015 #16
Robert Reich has obviously seen the light since he has watched the results of what they worked on. jwirr Feb 2015 #17
Create Work By Punishing People At the Bottom for Not Working daredtowork Feb 2015 #20
The burden of it all falls on the most vulnerable. The rich just get richer and more smug. madfloridian Feb 2015 #23
Oh, they are creating work - lawyers, CCA, corporate prisons/police erronis Feb 2015 #26
Don't forget the prison slave labor system. nt daredtowork Feb 2015 #27
Now if only they can get prison labor to build missiles and drones. L0oniX Feb 2015 #29
No joke - coming soon to a prison labor force near you! nt daredtowork Feb 2015 #31
What If Progress Eliminates Most Jobs - How Will Third Way Help Then? cantbeserious Feb 2015 #32
They can't help at all. madfloridian Feb 2015 #37
Yes - The Point Exactly - DLC - Third Way - Destroyer Of Middle Class Prosperity cantbeserious Feb 2015 #39
And harming unions. madfloridian Feb 2015 #40
Yes - All Too True cantbeserious Feb 2015 #41
In Britain, The Royal Mail nationalize the fed Feb 2015 #42
Thanks for that post. madfloridian Feb 2015 #44
Brava. Thank you. blackspade Feb 2015 #43
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