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Agnosticsherbet

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28. The surprising appeal of ISIS (Boston Globe)
Thu Feb 26, 2015, 02:32 PM
Feb 2015
The surprising appeal of ISIS
The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria, or ISIS, smashed its way into the world’s consciousness earlier this month when it seized Mosul and the Beiji oil refinery in Iraq. Starting last fall, ISIS began imposing its theocratic rule over a wide swath of Syria, then quickly wrested control of the emblematic Iraqi cities of Fallujah and Ramadi. With the more recent attacks, it menaced the government in Baghdad; it also forced President Obama to reengage with a war from which he thought he had extricated the United States.

In trying to explain ISIS’s rapid success, alarmed observers have pointed to the extreme tactics that drew condemnation even from Al Qaeda: mass executions, beheadings, and crucifixions. Some see local conspiracies, believing Arab governments allowed the group to grow in order to justify their own heavy-handed crackdowns. Others suggest that Shi’ite Iran indirectly funded the movement as part of its own strategy to divide the Sunnis from within.

Most analysts predict that ISIS’s conduct will ultimately limit its future: They say it has no meaningful political program or ability to form a state, and its extremist views will alienate the people who live under its rule.

But that view of ISIS’s success and prospects overlooks one key element. A look at both ISIS’s written edicts and its tactics suggest that the group has gotten one important thing right: It has created a clear—and to some, compelling—idea of citizenship and state-building in a region almost completely bereft of either.

IS is the lowest common denominator of human existence. Turbineguy Feb 2015 #1
No, but it would help mitigate the radicalization of others. Xyzse Feb 2015 #2
Exactly el_bryanto Feb 2015 #5
That's pretty much it. Xyzse Feb 2015 #9
Precisely Sherman A1 Feb 2015 #22
Yes, indeed. Orsino Feb 2015 #11
^this^ Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #13
When nothing to gain becomes nothing to lose... elehhhhna Feb 2015 #17
This shouldn't be too difficult to absorb. It's absurd for those so inclined to try and blm Feb 2015 #26
I think that the statement was made not in regard to ISIS so much as the young who are from jwirr Feb 2015 #3
Where's the stats that the recruits don't have jobs? snagglepuss Feb 2015 #7
I think you need to ask that of the person who said it first. I was merely pointing out that this jwirr Feb 2015 #8
not sure but, is this in reference to this thread ... Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #15
No. I did read that one but this is about those who are talking about stopping ISIS recruiting in jwirr Feb 2015 #18
yes, OK. thanks. n/t Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2015 #21
A better economy makes for a more peaceful environment so there's that. randome Feb 2015 #4
The comments you refer to take absurdity and studipity to a whole new level snagglepuss Feb 2015 #6
So Islam is the sole cause of middle eastern terrorism? Does that seem logical? nt el_bryanto Feb 2015 #14
The OP is about ISIS not about MidEast terrorism snagglepuss Feb 2015 #19
So Islam is the soul cause of ISIS than? Sorry I wasn't more clear. nt el_bryanto Feb 2015 #20
Yes ISIS is the fault of a religion that sets itself up as the snagglepuss Feb 2015 #24
Eeyup. hifiguy Feb 2015 #27
So what is your plan to deal with Islam? el_bryanto Feb 2015 #32
"unmitigated evil book" Those are your words not mine. I simply state that the Koran like EVERY snagglepuss Feb 2015 #36
You didn't really answer my questions other than to quibble at my wording el_bryanto Feb 2015 #39
That's a pretty moronic, FOX way of assessing what was actually said. blm Feb 2015 #10
OK let me clarify it for you, didn't think it was that complicated. NM_Birder Feb 2015 #12
An excellent book called "Harvest of Rage" connects unemployment to the militia movement arcane1 Feb 2015 #23
You need to remember that most industries in Iraq were sold off to foreign owners arcane1 Feb 2015 #16
Abject, generational poverty breeds both crime and terrorism. LanternWaste Feb 2015 #25
The surprising appeal of ISIS (Boston Globe) Agnosticsherbet Feb 2015 #28
There's always going to be psychos out there jollyreaper2112 Feb 2015 #29
Just finished reading an extensive Atlantic article on ISIS cilla4progress Feb 2015 #30
"surprised to learn from our student that Jesus is actually also a prophet in Islam" Xyzse Feb 2015 #31
Yes, this is what I also learned cilla4progress Feb 2015 #33
I enjoyed the read. Xyzse Feb 2015 #40
Theory started with al Qaeda radicals. moondust Feb 2015 #34
a bible verse,...really ? NM_Birder Feb 2015 #42
This is such a well-founded, elementary factor in social deviance and criminal behavior that closeupready Feb 2015 #35
What the world needs now is Love seveneyes Feb 2015 #37
"....but still have a spiraling violence problem." EX500rider Feb 2015 #38
You kinda missed the point of my thread, NM_Birder Feb 2015 #41
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