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JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
3. Ron Paul is the only one that I see that could threaten the demographic trends
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 08:55 AM
Feb 2015

regarding national elections. There is a big problem though, he gave a terrific speech on the Senate floor on the topic on whether the US should arm Syrian rebels but like with anything, he falls off the rails 37 minutes in. However, on that speech, everything he says after would appeal to ignorant Islamaphobes.

He goes into Muslims who don't agree with IS, "they aren't loud enough" goes into how he wants to see them on the front page of the New York Times, how he wants to see this or that but Muslims grieve for losses from these groups & are in the front lines themselves. Now a lot of recruits join IS because they are victims of oppressions in combination with propaganda as well as brutal fear & intimidation with public crucifixions as a warning for breaking some of their morality laws or opposing them just like Saudi Arabia which the man in my signature was sentenced to crucifixion for non-violent opposition but also encouraging thousands of civilians to speak up against the House of Saud.

While I certainly agree there is a risk of weapons ending up in the wrong hands regarding Sunni Syrian rebels which IS & global Al-Qaeda networks have experience in dealing with spies, I'm sure there are elements of the Free Syrian Army loyal to IS but FSA because they have access to the US arms & US already made the mistake with Iraq's government, with much of the aid going to unregulated Shia militias rather than government--they have no interest or want to be held in self-accountability. Still, he loses the nuance 37 minutes in and forfeits the argument he just made.

He quotes James Jones but best point I ever read from him, wasn't mentioned “The Arab Spring is in my opinion the most consequential period in global affairs since the end of the Cold War,” he had told the Georgetown audience earlier, “[but] in far to many cases the radical forces are the most organized and the best poised to fill the vacuum of leadership.”

It is interesting how much Qatar has been involved in providing that organization & funding in Tunisia, Egypt, & other Arab spring countries. Most of IS foreign fighters come from Tunisia & propaganda seems to be much more orientated toward Sykes-Picot & colonialism than before, House of Saud didn't care about that because they got the country they wanted after over a century a war prior to Sykes-Picot. All they wanted was more to follow their unique & controversial sect starting by financing religious universities or replacing higher learning in other countries whenever possible such as Afghanistan.

on edit - most people have a novice understanding when it comes to economics so those that aren't partisan or more partisan to R side don't realize how devastating Libertarian ideology is when it comes to absolute freedom of the markets, inevitable corruption & greed will max out.

"Liberal" Republicans Bagsgroove Feb 2015 #1
I suspectyou are correct ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #13
I agree with both of you strongly. Also note the higher consistency of GOP as conservative vs. those freshwest Mar 2015 #39
One day those libertarians will get laid and then their political thoughts will mature FSogol Feb 2015 #31
Looks more like they are f'd with all age groups. Kalidurga Feb 2015 #2
Ron Paul is the only one that I see that could threaten the demographic trends JonLP24 Feb 2015 #3
Do people grow into conservatism? CincyDem Feb 2015 #4
AFAIK, ideology doesn't shift much with age eridani Feb 2015 #5
yeah - there's the idea that we are who we are at age 26. CincyDem Feb 2015 #7
Conformists. They "believe" what most people in their social group believe. tblue37 Feb 2015 #25
True, that is it. My liberal roots come from a family who came of age in the Great Depression. freshwest Mar 2015 #40
I agree, it's an open question Bagsgroove Feb 2015 #6
Not so much grow as indoctrinated n2doc Feb 2015 #9
Studies I have seen have shown that the Millenial Generation are voting MORE Democratic mikekohr Feb 2015 #12
At the age of 73 I see what you are saying. However, in the elections of the past - from FDR to jwirr Feb 2015 #17
No, but liberalism can be eroded away Scootaloo Feb 2015 #26
Good question, and one I often muse about Populist_Prole Feb 2015 #32
I have to agree.... essaynnc Feb 2015 #8
How do we get the Millennials and Gen-ex people to vote? CanonRay Feb 2015 #10
Let them vote on their iPhone. vanlassie Feb 2015 #11
Appeal to their concerns? n/t tazkcmo Feb 2015 #15
Now that's just crazy talk Scootaloo Feb 2015 #28
Yet they don't care about our concerns treestar Feb 2015 #30
Very good question. This week when we won the net neutrality issue my grandson told me that this jwirr Feb 2015 #19
I suggest looking at the States where they did not 'stay home' and considering what those States Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #22
They are disenfranchising themselves. hay rick Feb 2015 #29
Now if only they would vote. RBInMaine Feb 2015 #14
As we grow older Cryptoad Feb 2015 #16
I don't know, the DNC allows FUD etc to homogenize the parties too much uponit7771 Feb 2015 #18
not unless the national democratic party 1) adopts a liberal agenda and Doctor_J Feb 2015 #20
The GOP is losing an entire generation Gothmog Feb 2015 #21
Yup the GOP is Fucked, but so is the Democrats. No one I know in those Katashi_itto Feb 2015 #23
And young people also like Hillary.. DCBob Feb 2015 #24
the GOP has a plan, a good one guillaumeb Feb 2015 #27
"The original intent of the Founders, by the way. " That's a myth, btw. AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #33
I threw that one in guillaumeb Feb 2015 #34
True, but we must be careful not to combat myth with myth.....nt AverageJoe90 Feb 2015 #35
This is definitely a significant part of their plan. nt hifiguy Feb 2015 #36
"This chart also shows the death of the conservative Democrat" malokvale77 Feb 2015 #37
It doesn't matter a bit if they don't vote. kiva Feb 2015 #38
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