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Bluenorthwest

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5. And yet DOMA was exactly this sort of legislation and it had massive Democratic support and
Sat Feb 28, 2015, 12:36 PM
Feb 2015

it was with us until just recently. Signed into law by a Democrat muttering about compromise. Additionally, each day on DU we see threads celebrating Pope Francis, a big hero to the Elizabeth Warren right. 'He is our mentor, he should be President' they chirp. He says equal treatment for gay people is Satan's idea. Every day on DU, Democrats praise him, and attack LGBT people for objecting to his hate speech. Every day.
So sure, most Democrats are not as bad as most Republicans, but being slightly better than a full tilt bigot is not really a feather in one's cap to brag about. It's just not. Obama was inaugurated with Rick Warren at his side, days after Warren had attacked us with vicious hate speech, such evangelicals attacking us was a regular feature of the Obama campaign and no one has offered any apology, not the Party, not the President. We get tight lipped and strained words of support which may or may not be true because they are so weakly spoken by men and women who have also sworn the opposite and claimed the opposed our rights because of Goddy Godsox and his Book of Rules.
When there is a nominee for President that has never trash talked gay people, I'll stamp that ticket you are currently claiming. In the meantime stop sending yourself flowers.

Not scary, really. This is lame, IMO. Also, it exposes them closeupready Feb 2015 #1
Which political party is doing this? randys1 Feb 2015 #2
And yet DOMA was exactly this sort of legislation and it had massive Democratic support and Bluenorthwest Feb 2015 #5
OK, I get all that. All I have EVER said is that if the choice is any republican vs any democrat randys1 Feb 2015 #6
DOMA, as bad as it was, wasn't remotely comparable dsc Feb 2015 #7
Clintonian historical revisionism - there was NEVER a threat of Constitutional Amendment. closeupready Feb 2015 #8
Yes there surely was dsc Feb 2015 #9
"muttering about compromise" Egnever Feb 2015 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Feb 2015 #15
We can't give teh Gays the special right ... 1StrongBlackMan Feb 2015 #3
I don't understand this damnedifIknow Feb 2015 #4
Homophobes are demented individuals and do not process emotions and thoughts as RKP5637 Feb 2015 #27
I'm very thankful that the WV House killed HB2881 Rhythm Feb 2015 #10
I'm going to say something unpopular here about GLBT strategy Wella Feb 2015 #11
"stop destroying the privacy of political donors" - fuck that. closeupready Feb 2015 #12
Then you will reap what you sow...including your own unpopular donations being made public Wella Feb 2015 #13
That's democracy. If you want a theocracy, move to Saudi Arabia. closeupready Feb 2015 #14
A very vapid and foolish response to a serious issue Wella Feb 2015 #16
You are loony. That's the issue here. Get out more. closeupready Feb 2015 #21
This is your argument? Wella Feb 2015 #23
Do you know how you appear, tho? bravenak Feb 2015 #28
You don't get political stategy do you? Wella Mar 2015 #31
Yes. You have myopic narcissism. It is a problem. bravenak Mar 2015 #32
I think you are projecting. And you haven't understood the logic. Wella Mar 2015 #41
You have no logic. bravenak Mar 2015 #43
What you mean is, "I don't like your logical breakdown of the situation." Wella Mar 2015 #44
See ya around. bravenak Mar 2015 #45
Your arguments are ludicrous! n/t RKP5637 Feb 2015 #29
No, they are actually quite logical; they're just not common in our current discourse Wella Mar 2015 #46
Actually, I do see some merit in what you say, in that pushing the envelop for the RKP5637 Mar 2015 #49
you do not have a right to my or anyone else's money dsc Feb 2015 #17
No one is talking about rights here, but about political strategy. Wella Feb 2015 #18
It has nothing to do with outrage dsc Feb 2015 #19
This is not about shopping: this is about overall political strategy Wella Feb 2015 #24
Mozilla is hardly a mom and pop operation dsc Feb 2015 #26
But bakeries are. Wella Mar 2015 #30
Should blacks have been gracious winners by not insisting on being served in businesses? dsc Mar 2015 #35
These bakeries are not strictly denying service to gays and lesbians Wella Mar 2015 #36
This is a crazy argument. bravenak Mar 2015 #37
No, it is a logical argument that shows the differences between the GLBT and African American cases Wella Mar 2015 #38
They won't do wedding cakes at a bakery? bravenak Mar 2015 #39
They serve all customers; they don't make all kinds of cakes. Wella Mar 2015 #47
Yeah, but they make wedding cakes for straights? bravenak Mar 2015 #48
You are an apologist for bigotry. Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #53
You're right, your opinion is unpopular here justiceischeap Mar 2015 #40
Wow. "Let's pander to homophobes who are against equal rights for Americans." Arugula Latte Mar 2015 #50
The owner is free to spend his money..... daleanime Mar 2015 #51
Sometimes I miss moderators. LeftyMom Mar 2015 #54
We ARE gracious winners. Jamastiene Mar 2015 #55
Shouldn't these laws be easily challenged as unconstitutional? Egnever Feb 2015 #22
'State preemption' is not uncommon; there's been a lot of talk about petronius Mar 2015 #33
The best part for the best rendition seveneyes Feb 2015 #25
AS scary as they are, there are some even more scary. Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #34
In some places, states are going as far writing legislation justiceischeap Mar 2015 #42
What is wrong with these people that they contort the laws like this to hurt gays? Kath1 Mar 2015 #52
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