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Response to BlueCaliDem (Reply #99)

Sat Mar 7, 2015, 12:06 PM

132. Fundies never want to use the brain that the good lord gave them.

It's a giant pain having them mouthing off all the time about their 'Jesus', when they are anti-Christian. They tend to give normal christians a bad name with their high-profile 'efforts'.

I used the same idea about Jesus, his family, and his apostles being Jewish with an anti-semitic Croatian Catholic one time, when he was bad-mouthing his Jewish boss for being Jewish, not for being a bad boss. He gave me some old Croatian saying about 'we work for Jews, we pray to a Jew' that was chilling and enlightening. A lot of the time, people point out the alleged Catholic and Christian base to the third reich's aims and outlook, while forgetting Reich religious minister Rosenberg's gnostic cathar ties.

The reich used inherent anti-semitic, pro-'christian' ideology to get their start, then jettisoned the christian part, once they were in power, substituting the reich bible for the christian bible, substituting the crooked cross for the cross. All those saps who backed Hitler from religious 'convictions' saw the trap sprung on them when the reich reasoning went from 'the Jews killed Jesus' to 'Jesus was a Jewish Pig'. The bad ones and opportunists spun 180 degrees and double thought to back the new religious line, and the ones who didn't make the leap went from being designated reich backers to being designated reich enemies.

The fundies here in this country and the West are trying to use christianity the same way, with the same aims, as the nazi 'christians' used it. The 'catholic' anti-semite I was talking to showed me how quick they can spin things in their head, he could turn on a dime from hating Jews 'because Jesus' to calling Jesus a Jew, effortlessly, in the blink of an eye, using one old phrase. Fundy christianity here is a key driver and justifier of fascist ideology and goals, very anti-christ like. Reminds me of a biblical reference that people will see the anti-christ, and think it is Christ. The two documentaries 'Thy Kingdom Come' and 'Thy Will be Done' from the '80's, that talked about the dominionist ideas of Falwell Bakker etc, was bone chilling to me; when I saw their storming orations to their mega church flocks, it reminded me of old films of Hitler.

I'm Catholic, but I like the Jewish faith. Its adherents don't come knocking at my door, trying to convert me, unlike a lot of other faiths. They have something good, and they know it, but it's theirs. They don't reject converts, but they aren't actively campaigning for them. To me, if you have something good, people will know it, just demonstrate it from your life and actions. Going around trying to convert others by telling them how good you have it seems to smack of desperation or insecurity, not a good way of doing things. I like another religion that demonstrates its goodness and leaves me alone. There's a lot of good ones out there, and even the moral athiest and agnostic colleagues we have here seem like a good religion to me, though I hope they don't take offense at my characterization.

I like all your posts on the thread. Thanks, BCD, and sorry for the long post.

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