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niyad

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Thu Mar 19, 2015, 11:46 AM Mar 2015

Montana Invents Fun Science Experiments To Do On Ladies Who Want Legal Abortions [View all]

(anger alert warning)

Still legal right?


Montana Invents Fun Science Experiments To Do On Ladies Who Want Legal Abortions

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try not to be pregnant in Montana

Pretend you’re a state legislature, and you really REALLY want to make it so ladies don’t do abortions, even though that is a thing that is still legal in U.S. Jesus America. You have lots of options! You could try to ban all abortions after 20 weeks, which 10 states and Congress are trying to do. You could ban all abortions at some other gestational point, which 32 states are working on. You could try to scare ladies away from having an abortion by offering information that is not necessarily even accurate about fetal pain, as 12 states do. Or you could get really creative, like in Montana!

Rather than just proposing all those old-fashioned kinds of 20-week bans, a Montana House Committee is taking up H.B. 479, the Montana Unborn Child Pain and Suffering Prevention Act, which would require mandatory fetal anesthesia prior to an abortion at 20 weeks or later. (West Virginia Republicans introduced a similar bill in January, requiring anesthesia at 7 weeks.)


What’s so wrong with requiring a pregnant woman to have anesthesia administered to the fetus she’s aborting, whether she wants it or not? Well, for one thing, it is based on the scientifically incorrect assertion that fetuses can feel pain at 20 weeks. For another thing, the health effects of fetal anesthesia on pregnant ladies are unknown. But pregnant ladies would probably be fine with their bodies being used as a science experiment, right?

The Montana bill’s sponsor, state Rep. Albert Olszewski, is another one of those magical Republican lawmakers who just knows things about ladies’ bodies. He is an orthopedic surgeon, and he has probably treated lady patients, ergo, he has a nuanced understanding of the female reproductive system and doesn’t need to pay any attention to the findings of actual ladyhealth doctors who have studied this subject. In response to a question about whether and at what point fetal pain would even be possible, Olszewski said:

Based on the scientific research accomplished and published over the last three decades, the answer to this question is when the unborn child is 20 weeks gestation or older.

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Read more at http://wonkette.com/580027/montana-invents-fun-science-experiments-to-do-on-ladies-who-want-legal-abortions#R3TOV7qvlus8w0HE.99

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just one more repuke controlled state that is investing in demeaning and controlling women cali Mar 2015 #1
but, we keep being told there is NO war on women. niyad Mar 2015 #2
and what a load of crap that is! cali Mar 2015 #3
how is this demeaning and controlling to women? strawberries Mar 2015 #4
It's like you didn't even read it. Brickbat Mar 2015 #8
can you prove fetuses don't feel pain at 20 weeks? strawberries Mar 2015 #11
the best evidence is that they do not cali Mar 2015 #23
I read that too strawberries Mar 2015 #26
Because that is the only goal of the legislation. jeff47 Mar 2015 #12
I don't buy the 27 week thing for pain strawberries Mar 2015 #14
Reality doesn't give a shit if you buy it or not. jeff47 Mar 2015 #16
anger does not do you justice strawberries Mar 2015 #18
I'm not angry. I'm used to the ignorance of anti-choice people. jeff47 Mar 2015 #21
ok. post links. cali Mar 2015 #20
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #25
You quote two conservative pro-life websites for support? Seriously? NickB79 Mar 2015 #32
Maybe let's let doctors do the doctoring. DirkGently Mar 2015 #28
So we would leave it up to the strawberries Mar 2015 #31
I don't think actual doctors have even heard of this. DirkGently Mar 2015 #34
Strawberries, your journal post says you are a conservative. If you are a rightwinger as you LiberalLoner Mar 2015 #41
well if you took the time to continue reading strawberries Mar 2015 #43
Just curious, what Republican stances do you disagree with, specifically? LiberalLoner Mar 2015 #44
cali said 24 weeks strawberries Mar 2015 #29
I didn't reply to cali. I replied to you. jeff47 Mar 2015 #30
You might consider that that holds true for you. cali Mar 2015 #37
ok, I could be wrong too, maybe the fetus feels nothing strawberries Mar 2015 #39
Maybe it was this "Women's Rights Expert" GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #36
Are they going to require "fetal anesthesia" for birth? REP Mar 2015 #5
it would probably be harmful strawberries Mar 2015 #7
It punishes the woman because they have to get to the fetus to anesthetize it. jeff47 Mar 2015 #13
don't they have to go through the woman to perform the abortion? nt strawberries Mar 2015 #15
Nope. jeff47 Mar 2015 #17
going through vagina/cervix is that not part of the woman? strawberries Mar 2015 #19
They need direct access to the fetus in order to anesthetize it. jeff47 Mar 2015 #22
Just think if we put this much effort into ensuring child hunger was ended world wide... LynneSin Mar 2015 #6
There are programs all around strawberries Mar 2015 #9
I know what 20 weeks look like and no woman should still be required an ultrasound LynneSin Mar 2015 #35
Republicans push the ultrasound tammywammy Mar 2015 #42
there should be mandatory public colonoscopies for the clowns hobbit709 Mar 2015 #10
More Jim Crow-level sneering evil. DirkGently Mar 2015 #24
How did you manage to connect strawberries Mar 2015 #27
It's the same dishonest, malicious strategy. DirkGently Mar 2015 #33
THE STUPID. cwydro Mar 2015 #38
Assholes ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #40
. . . niyad Mar 2015 #45
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