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40. Personally

Thu Mar 19, 2015, 02:14 PM

Mar 2015

I don't think black people have any reason to love white people. Long(ish) story for a short question. My mother-in-law in the past few years has had to hire people to work in her home to help her take care of herself. Many of these people were black people who she went through like kleenex, talked to like curs, and treated like dirt. Now she's in a nursing home. The suprising thing is, the thing that really shocks me, is that some of the black people who worked for her ask us about how she's doing and even go to see her. !!!! Now admittedly, she also treated many white people like dirt, including me, her son, and her granddaughter. The difference is I wouldn't walk two steps to see her, I don't care how she's doing. I really don't understand how they can care at all when she was so nasty to them.

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Quick Question... Why should black people love white people? [View all] bravenak Mar 2015 OP

I love everybody, even my detractors at this site. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #1

It does not happen. bravenak Mar 2015 #4

yes, every white person is exactly the same in how they treat or relate to cali Mar 2015 #8

Stop and frisk. bravenak Mar 2015 #12

SB 1070 here in Arizona and similar anti-immigration azmom Mar 2015 #247

Screaming about the 'hordes' coming across the border. bravenak Mar 2015 #250

Demanding that we brown people show azmom Mar 2015 #276

Yep. Sherriff Joe. bravenak Mar 2015 #293

"Stop and Frisk" is not the SOP across the U.S. Jenoch Mar 2015 #479

It happens in many places from Diego to the Bay, from Miami to NY. bravenak Mar 2015 #481

You are implying that all law enforcement agencies Jenoch Mar 2015 #489

Most do it whether it is policy or not. bravenak Mar 2015 #490

Again, I'm not denying that it happens, Jenoch Mar 2015 #496

It does not matter if it is sop. It should stop since we know it happens. bravenak Mar 2015 #498

Wow, talk about damning with faint praise CreekDog Mar 2015 #514

I'm not defending. Jenoch Mar 2015 #635

She is making perfect sense - Has there ever been a policy that authorizes blm Mar 2015 #29

Big surprise LOL you did NOT disappoint LOL NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #89

ain't nothing funny about you insinuating that I"m a racist. It's vile and it's a lie. cali Mar 2015 #155

I dont have to IMPLY anything, your words and attitude are here for all to see NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #202

oh please. don't be so transparent. it's obvious that's what you've done on more cali Mar 2015 #238

Bullying? Not my intention. Actually I was hoping you would stop for a minute and think NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #243

White people ARE all racist, in varying degrees. The problem is that they continue to deny it. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #454

I think sometimes we use the word "racist" when we should actually be using the word "bigot" notadmblnd Mar 2015 #527

No, I mean racist. I'm very clear on the meaning, thanks. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #622

ALL people are racist, in varying degrees AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #573

Are you claiming to be a victim of reverse racism? CreekDog Mar 2015 #515

There is no such thing as reverse racism AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #574

Yup CreekDog Mar 2015 #637

There is a difference between racism & prejudice 7962 Mar 2015 #258

Everybody has prejudices, only those in power can be racists NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #262

So the Klan arent racists? 7962 Mar 2015 #267

It's white supremacy that gives them any power at all. bravenak Mar 2015 #270

Damn right, and the most terrified I've ever been was in a little town in northern Virginia- raven mad Mar 2015 #336

Even if I were white I would have had a heart attack. bravenak Mar 2015 #344

Not in 1964 in Virginia you wouldn't! raven mad Mar 2015 #359

Ha ha!! bravenak Mar 2015 #362

so all white people are in power? you seem to be contradicting yourself. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #442

What utter nonsense mythology Mar 2015 #576

sigh NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #582

Sociology only deals with institutions and groups, not individuals AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #577

Sure, but racial prejudice IS racism! When you have an aversion to someone else based solely on race Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #457

Huh? Chauvinism is NOT racism. Guess it depends on which Webster's you look up 7962 Mar 2015 #521

Where did I write or imply that chauvinism = racism. I posted the definition Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #623

I know it wasnt YOU, but i also posted from Webster's. And that one doesnt mention it. 7962 Mar 2015 #629

Jesus, yet another idiotic post. Goodbye! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #648

This message was self-deleted by its author one_voice Mar 2015 #398

Um, no... one_voice Mar 2015 #399

Sorry, this is not up for debate, some things are just facts NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #400

Sorry your opinion aren't facts... one_voice Mar 2015 #402

Trust me, I am not the original author of this statement of fact, I am just a white NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #404

Great, then it should be no problem to give... one_voice Mar 2015 #408

Bravenak's only mistake is her implied exclusion of other race Scootaloo Mar 2015 #494

no links or facts necessary, history is the only link necessary heaven05 Mar 2015 #654

Yes, they ARE facts. If you are white, you enjoy certain privileges that come with having white skin Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #459

I thought you said.... ND-Dem Mar 2015 #443

Everybody who grows up in a society where race has salience is racist to some degree, and that ND-Dem Mar 2015 #441

Cali's not a racist, and is one of the stronger anti-racist voices on DU Scootaloo Mar 2015 #491

+100 heaven05 Mar 2015 #652

Her post does NOT claim that we whites are all alike. It merely clarifies tblue37 Mar 2015 #132

I don't think that's what brave is trying to say, cali - raven mad Mar 2015 #329

Affirmative Action! I've had white women come at me in hostility, assuming that I got to one of the Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #451

Exactly a point I tried to make several years ago. raven mad Mar 2015 #322

I'll take what I can get. bravenak Mar 2015 #326

Birmingham............... raven mad Mar 2015 #331

I love my sweet tea extra sweet. bravenak Mar 2015 #370

Well put. I couldn't agree with you more. davidsilver Mar 2015 #357

That I have detractors on this site or that I love everybody. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #361

LOL! That we should love everyone even though we should hold them accountable. davidsilver Mar 2015 #367

like- love- trust- respect DustyJoe Mar 2015 #383

I thinka generalization like this is pointless- and worse. cali Mar 2015 #2

People got upset at the fact that a black woman hates whit people in this anti black nation. bravenak Mar 2015 #7

I'm not upset...I am disappointed... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #10

So is she. bravenak Mar 2015 #18

so everyone who disagrees with her who is white is a racist? what else could be cali Mar 2015 #34

No. I think we have 50 million racists in this nation. bravenak Mar 2015 #131

Thank you for the generous underestimate. Jackpine Radical Mar 2015 #215

I agree. It will take her time. It took me until my twenties. bravenak Mar 2015 #256

If you really think that then sadly you are part of the problem. 7962 Mar 2015 #278

There are millions of them. Fifty million is being conservative. bravenak Mar 2015 #282

If you really think thats true, then its a lost cause. 7962 Mar 2015 #288

It is not about voting for Obama or Clinton. bravenak Mar 2015 #292

Then how are blacks any different than whites, according to your point in the OP? 7962 Mar 2015 #301

I never said any of that. bravenak Mar 2015 #303

It isn't that big a number, it is absurd to think that no way a quarter or a third of whites are TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #549

And the words of people like Banks just gives ammo to the racists out there. 7962 Mar 2015 #583

Moved the goal posts a significant minority isn't "most" but rather an unfortunate too many TheKentuckian Mar 2015 #659

you have no empathy heaven05 Mar 2015 #675

And of course, you have no idea what I've been through in my life, nor I you. 7962 Mar 2015 #683

I'm stating 200 million. I'm one of them. jobycom Mar 2015 #433

This was a great post. We have gotten so many great posts on this thread. bravenak Mar 2015 #438

excellent heaven05 Mar 2015 #650

I think there are many more than that, my friend. Many more. And sorry. White liberals are worse. Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #464

I am so glad you showed up. I can't keep myself from saying what needs to be said. bravenak Mar 2015 #468

Don't you know the new rules? When we call out racism that makes US racists. It's ridiculous, right? Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #474

Thank you! bravenak Mar 2015 #480

Yeah, what you said. Back in that day, It shocked me too. IsItJustMe Mar 2015 #499

geez heaven05 Mar 2015 #200

+1! nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #138

I would then offer her this DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #218

I'm about to get you, hold you butt. bravenak Mar 2015 #233

money DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #332

It was the plastic surgery to remove her ethnic features we were upset about. bravenak Mar 2015 #338

you totally heaven05 Mar 2015 #651

actually no DonCoquixote Mar 2015 #662

hopefully she'll sort things out one day heaven05 Mar 2015 #668

people went overboard on the Azalia Banks business cali Mar 2015 #16

They do it to Kanye. bravenak Mar 2015 #24

Kanye is a huge star, and he gets attention not for hating on white people or racists, but geek tragedy Mar 2015 #30

DId you even get an answer yet? Or just white people knee jerk reacting defensively because NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #91

No answers. Just anger, accusations of racism and recriminations. bravenak Mar 2015 #95

I can understand why she feels that way but it makes me feel bad... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #32

I know you are. She is young and bitter. We all go through that and have to overcome. For our sanity bravenak Mar 2015 #407

Why should she hate people based on treestar Mar 2015 #81

She has recieved alot more hate than she gives out. bravenak Mar 2015 #92

Well I didn't do any of that so why does she hate me? treestar Mar 2015 #99

She probably doesn't. bravenak Mar 2015 #106

well turn that around, and you get what POC ask them selves every day of the week. bettyellen Mar 2015 #522

True. Yet the solution doesn't seem to lie in treestar Mar 2015 #525

"possitivty" sounds nice, but is basically asking POC to STFU about their struggles, and to solve bettyellen Mar 2015 #535

No it's not treestar Mar 2015 #565

POC are looking for support and for white people to recognize the day to day effects of racism and bettyellen Mar 2015 #566

I am white get the red out Mar 2015 #124

Are you a minority? NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #94

No treestar Mar 2015 #102

So you are never going to learn, I guess. Too bad, if so called liberals cant learn there is NO NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #196

Victimhood must be comfortable in some way. treestar Mar 2015 #395

Victim? LOL NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #397

Lol- actually those who speak up do because they are strong.... bettyellen Mar 2015 #628

I just love this question. romanic Mar 2015 #640

I don't like her because she is an abject moron... Oktober Mar 2015 #123

As do you. bravenak Mar 2015 #127

If she doesn't like me because I am white upaloopa Mar 2015 #139

She doesn't know enough about life yet. bravenak Mar 2015 #143

Could be upaloopa Mar 2015 #150

neither do 18-year-old skinheads, but they don't get a pass. ND-Dem Mar 2015 #450

They are not the victims of white supremacy, now are they? bravenak Mar 2015 #497

Actually they are casualties of it AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #644

No they are the aggressors, not victims. bravenak Mar 2015 #646

People have a problem, and rightly so, with someone saying they HATE a group of Marr Mar 2015 #165

There are 50 million white racists in America. bravenak Mar 2015 #169

There are lots of racists, yes-- and this woman is one of them. Marr Mar 2015 #174

Who no plie on on cheney? The war criminal? bravenak Mar 2015 #175

I don't even know what Cheney's remarks were. Marr Mar 2015 #181

Of course you don't. His were ignored to focus on her. bravenak Mar 2015 #184

Well, I'm not shocked and angered so I can't help you. Marr Mar 2015 #229

I don't need to defend her. bravenak Mar 2015 #234

There have been a million pile-on posts on Cheney. cwydro Mar 2015 #197

I would make that suggestion hfojvt Mar 2015 #47

I'm with you on this OP, a horrid use of the DU forum GitRDun Mar 2015 #620

It's a great OP heaven05 Mar 2015 #653

Gosh H2O Man Mar 2015 #3

should ... only one reason and it is selfish ... and to love on indiviual basis Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #5

That makes sense. I love because it makes me whole. bravenak Mar 2015 #9

I want to help get past the blockades whether we go under/over/through them, matters not to me. Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #115

to be the recipient of heaven05 Mar 2015 #287

Thank you for the awesome post! bravenak Mar 2015 #294

Bravo! marym625 Mar 2015 #416

he committed suicide heaven05 Mar 2015 #435

I wish I could rec your post Marrah_G Mar 2015 #649

(( )) blm Mar 2015 #41

((amen)) Tuesday Afternoon Mar 2015 #117

The only colored group I ever loved was Pink Floyd BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #6

and nobody in the group was named Floyd, either. kwassa Mar 2015 #13

You've both left me comfortably numb . . . n/t JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #15

I can't think of a reason Kalidurga Mar 2015 #11

I missed something JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #14

Search the Azelea Banks threads nt Catherine Vincent Mar 2015 #19

Oh - her! JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #20

I can understand one "hating" or suspicious of any group where a significant portion tolerate or Hoyt Mar 2015 #17

Smack my ass and call me sally JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #33

LOL. And the right wingers invited that racist to the State of the Union Speech. Hoyt Mar 2015 #43

what is that? is there a point to it? ND-Dem Mar 2015 #453

Painted with a big brush H. Cromwell Mar 2015 #21

I said as a group, not individuals. bravenak Mar 2015 #27

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White people burn cop cars and don't get shot when they riot. bravenak Mar 2015 #39

Only white people H. Cromwell Mar 2015 #54

I see riots full of white only faces at hockey riots. bravenak Mar 2015 #59

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blacks didn't do anything to whites as a group CreekDog Mar 2015 #386

Yes, and they often burned black *people*, too--and often not even for tblue37 Mar 2015 #140

They looked like they were having so much fun!! bravenak Mar 2015 #142

Hockey riots? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2015 #339

That is probably the one asian guy in the riot. bravenak Mar 2015 #342

Has there ever been a 'hockey riot' in the USA? AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #632

I believe I was confusing the pumpkin riot with a hockey riot. bravenak Mar 2015 #633

The business owners should sue black America JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #66

Good idea! H. Cromwell Mar 2015 #83

You have a good sense of humor! JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #96

Dear God did you really type... one_voice Mar 2015 #417

Your last sentence proves how racist you are! Bigot! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #466

And Cromwell has been vaporized. alp227 Mar 2015 #421

oops, looks like the mask is slipping CreekDog Mar 2015 #411

What else does the poster have to say on the subject? CreekDog Mar 2015 #363

Wow. The only no vote. bravenak Mar 2015 #369

well the thing about that poster is, he's quite sensitive about things he thinks are anti-white CreekDog Mar 2015 #385

I see a pattern. bravenak Mar 2015 #389

funny thing is, if their positions were so popular, why would someone need more than one account? CreekDog Mar 2015 #391

Yep. I agree. bravenak Mar 2015 #403

Yes- you have the right to hate them JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #31

That is the main reason this pisses me off so much. bravenak Mar 2015 #42

I know - that's probably why I never clicked on those threads JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #51

I think he stole that heart from a young man. bravenak Mar 2015 #56

Me too JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #61

And I say, get that money, girl! bravenak Mar 2015 #65

I'm out of touch JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #70

Oooh! I loooove that bang bang song. bravenak Mar 2015 #104

Reparations are an absolute necessity, anything less is a crime. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #100

But it will never happen. I'm glad she is taking them however she can. bravenak Mar 2015 #113

Because love is better than hate. Orsino Mar 2015 #22

I don't think anyone should love any group of people. Human beings are human beings. geek tragedy Mar 2015 #23

Not because white people, as a group, deserve it. But because . . . pnwmom Mar 2015 #25

It has not worked. bravenak Mar 2015 #28

Black people are the most loving and forgiving people on earth! We've already tried this shit! Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #467

Why should women like any men when as a group they are often sexist? CJCRANE Mar 2015 #26

Do you have an answer? bravenak Mar 2015 #35

Prove to us that you are not anti-semitic and islamaphobic. CJCRANE Mar 2015 #44

Why? I'm an atheist. I don't ever care about religion. bravenak Mar 2015 #49

Being Jewish is also a culture and ethnicity. Being muslim is also a culture. CJCRANE Mar 2015 #52

This is about America and the black/white issue that came up. bravenak Mar 2015 #53

It is the exact same logic that you are using. If you can't see that CJCRANE Mar 2015 #57

Whatever. bravenak Mar 2015 #62

Boy, you're doing a great job on building that strawman. (nt) jeff47 Mar 2015 #90

That's the point. It's the same logic as the OP. CJCRANE Mar 2015 #101

No, it really isn't. jeff47 Mar 2015 #107

I'm not sure where you got that from. My point is the same. CJCRANE Mar 2015 #112

I see it as the oppressed hating their oppressor. Not just azmom Mar 2015 #281

yep. just about cali Mar 2015 #38

Yup. n/t progressoid Mar 2015 #207

No reason pscot Mar 2015 #36

Personally stage left Mar 2015 #40

I'm like that too. bravenak Mar 2015 #45

Well stage left Mar 2015 #58

Too many to hate. Causes health problems, imo. bravenak Mar 2015 #74

And there you have it - "Causes health problems" tularetom Mar 2015 #178

Love? ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #46

I agree. Love was just how I feel. bravenak Mar 2015 #130

No there isn't ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #283

I see. 99Forever Mar 2015 #48

Black people should not 'like' or 'love' white people, in my opinion. At least not KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #50

+1 ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #60

. kwassa Mar 2015 #68

Are you sure you intended to respond to me? If so, I am missing your KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #128

nah, I posted in the wrong spot ... sorry! kwassa Mar 2015 #134

The guilty parties are dead by now treestar Mar 2015 #79

The "guilty parties" may be dead (debatable), but their heirs continue to KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #125

What would constitute healing? treestar Mar 2015 #396

These are damned good questions and, as a white person, I'm not sure KingCharlemagne Mar 2015 #545

I guess today is defend homophobic bigots day Prism Mar 2015 #55

That's why I didn't pay attention to those threads JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #71

Not shocking, just tiresomely divisive Prism Mar 2015 #80

I agree JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #93

I'm content to observe and listen Prism Mar 2015 #179

You've got an ally in me JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #273

I'm glad we had this exchange =) Prism Mar 2015 #284

Just so you know... Behind the Aegis Mar 2015 #493

Thanks, BtA Prism Mar 2015 #508

I so agree with you, Prism. Sissyk Mar 2015 #406

The lack of nuance Prism Mar 2015 #509

this is an excellent post. cali Mar 2015 #135

some of these intentionally divisive and incendiary threads get locked Doctor_J Mar 2015 #349

This message was self-deleted by its author ND-Dem Mar 2015 #463

I agree. I hope you were not around to witness the defend Louis Farrakhan day(s). n/t demmiblue Mar 2015 #254

Where in the OP was her homophobia defended? Gormy Cuss Mar 2015 #414

Let's put it in parallel terms Prism Mar 2015 #507

Not at all parallel. Gormy Cuss Mar 2015 #532

I'll ask my lily white daughter why her brown boyfriend loves her...and get right back to you...not Sheepshank Mar 2015 #63

I said 'as a group, not individuals'. bravenak Mar 2015 #67

and I said, why should the guy that likes a white girl hate "her" whole group? Sheepshank Mar 2015 #208

I have no idea why a guy who likes a girl SHOULD hate anybody. bravenak Mar 2015 #211

People should not hate people period. As for you question, "what have white people done as a group" still_one Mar 2015 #64

It is a trust issue. And i explicitly said 'things we have not fought and died for'. bravenak Mar 2015 #154

I see what you did there AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #325

Calm down. My question was more about trust building and why there has not been enough of it. bravenak Mar 2015 #327

Trust cannot exist alongside hatred AgingAmerican Mar 2015 #334

We need to build trust then. bravenak Mar 2015 #384

Because they don't want to be LIKE White People..? Democrats_win Mar 2015 #72

Great answer. bravenak Mar 2015 #183

How do you even go outside? Oktober Mar 2015 #73

Door. bravenak Mar 2015 #82

Lol! kwassa Mar 2015 #85

Do you go around accusing everyone else of racism at every opportunity... Oktober Mar 2015 #328

Are you always this outraged? Boy you are pissed at me aaaalll the time. bravenak Mar 2015 #333

You are confused... Oktober Mar 2015 #343

I think you are pissed. bravenak Mar 2015 #346

It seems to please you... Oktober Mar 2015 #348

U mad bro? bravenak Mar 2015 #351

Why would I be? Oktober Mar 2015 #354

Dunno. bravenak Mar 2015 #356

Still not sure why you would think that... Oktober Mar 2015 #364

Cause you seem mad everytime you say anything to me. bravenak Mar 2015 #368

No, you are FAR from good. Too bad you cant see that, most of us can. NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #378

Black men and women are getting shot down in the streets and have to deal with fucking racism every Liberal_Stalwart71 Mar 2015 #473

Hatred sucks treestar Mar 2015 #75

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I don't need to be loved in my group. Texasgal Mar 2015 #77

I'd follow you. bravenak Mar 2015 #149

Should is always a strong word The2ndWheel Mar 2015 #78

I can understand that. bravenak Mar 2015 #147

The civil rights Act of 1964? Takket Mar 2015 #84

Not good enough. Drug war takes care of all of those advances. bravenak Mar 2015 #88

so your saying it is just as bad for a black person now as it was before 1964? Takket Mar 2015 #116

It is nearly just as bad. bravenak Mar 2015 #126

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I don't understand how I would love or hate any person or group of prayin4rain Mar 2015 #87

I know. It wasn't for you. Just for the folks shocked that a black woman in America might resent bravenak Mar 2015 #97

Yeah, i thought about it more and i resent the 1% collectively, prayin4rain Mar 2015 #105

That was what I got from her too. bravenak Mar 2015 #108

Agreed. :) n/t prayin4rain Mar 2015 #109

Except that the 1% actually holds power, through their money, their connections, and their ND-Dem Mar 2015 #475

Good point treestar Mar 2015 #111

If you're a Christian, it's pretty straightforward lumberjack_jeff Mar 2015 #98

My daughter, who is white, has a very good friend, who is black adigal Mar 2015 #103

Thank you. bravenak Mar 2015 #152

Judging people as a group is illogical, regardless of direction RedCappedBandit Mar 2015 #110

This. The outrage I hear whenever a black person dares to comment on tblue37 Mar 2015 #114

Thank you for understanding my point. bravenak Mar 2015 #119

Please see my post #132, in response to just that sort of reflexive outrage. nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #136

Oops! I meant post #132, not #137. nt tblue37 Mar 2015 #228

It's interesting how we are getting lots of MLK azmom Mar 2015 #307

And the more racist one is, the more resentment at when a black person adigal Mar 2015 #318

Nothing really. Loving a group of people is illogical LittleBlue Mar 2015 #118

I agree. bravenak Mar 2015 #120

Well, I resent the 1% so I guess I'm in the same boat. n/t prayin4rain Mar 2015 #121

I hate what they do LittleBlue Mar 2015 #129

Agreed. But I think Banks meant that she hates what they do, too. n/tk prayin4rain Mar 2015 #145

Probably. I don't blame her LittleBlue Mar 2015 #162

Agreed. n/t prayin4rain Mar 2015 #203

quick question or trick question? guillaumeb Mar 2015 #122

I have moved passed the hate phase years ago. bravenak Mar 2015 #141

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There are more white racists than there are black people in AMERICA. No. bravenak Mar 2015 #161

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Sheer numbers. bravenak Mar 2015 #170

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Far fewer black HATE whites even though many have GOOD reason. bravenak Mar 2015 #176

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There is no black KKK. You are wrong. bravenak Mar 2015 #189

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When did the panthers burn white people and lynch them? bravenak Mar 2015 #205

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Sorry. The KKK is WAY worse. They are PROUD of their history of burning negroes. bravenak Mar 2015 #220

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You never answered the question in my op, tho. bravenak Mar 2015 #244

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No. bravenak Mar 2015 #253

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Whatever. bravenak Mar 2015 #264

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That is called answering a question with a question. bravenak Mar 2015 #255

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Then why are you here on this thread? Something attracted you. bravenak Mar 2015 #280

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Bye bye ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #345

They finally got rid of this guy? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #492

Seriously? NOLALady Mar 2015 #225

So what? ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #341

I'll let Dr. King answer that one: Damansarajaya Mar 2015 #133

Not everyone us Dr. king. Not everyone is able to handle white supremacy. bravenak Mar 2015 #146

If you treat people as a race and not as an individual upaloopa Mar 2015 #137

Reject it then. bravenak Mar 2015 #144

You are redefining racism in this context ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #337

This message was self-deleted by its author upaloopa Mar 2015 #340

But she is talking about a race of people and NOT individuals. How is that so hard to understand? Rex Mar 2015 #645

I'm not going to read the other posts on this thread. F4lconF16 Mar 2015 #148

You get an A. Perfect. That is exactly what I mean. bravenak Mar 2015 #151

Don't you know ... 1StrongBlackMan Mar 2015 #153

Glad you read my mind. bravenak Mar 2015 #159

i don't know, but Enrique Mar 2015 #156

Fear not hate. bravenak Mar 2015 #347

I don't know why they should, given the history and present conditions. My guess is that Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #158

I agree, thank you Jefferson. bravenak Mar 2015 #166

You're most welcome and a great question you posed for all to consider. Jefferson23 Mar 2015 #390

Because everyone should love everyone fxstc Mar 2015 #160

Even the 50 million white racists that the rest of the white people largely ignore as a problem? bravenak Mar 2015 #164

"Even the 50 million white racists" EX500rider Mar 2015 #221

Oh, it's you. Hai. bravenak Mar 2015 #424

Hi....I'll take is as no, you just pulled that figure out of the air. EX500rider Mar 2015 #610

I was being kind and conservative in my estimate. bravenak Mar 2015 #612

everyone fxstc Mar 2015 #520

I think each Dorian Gray Mar 2015 #163

It would be nice but it does not hapoen that way. bravenak Mar 2015 #173

That's not true Dorian Gray Mar 2015 #188

There are way more of you so there should be millions of you in the streets. bravenak Mar 2015 #191

I can't speak for anyone else other than myself Dorian Gray Mar 2015 #214

I think they should do it everywhere. bravenak Mar 2015 #484

yes Dorian Gray Mar 2015 #519

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Hate is a destructive emotion that we should all try to avoid. totodeinhere Mar 2015 #171

You're not obligated to like anyone... NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #177

"even if i am a homophobe… so wat? i still make more $ than you.. still have an extra hole.. Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #180

There is a saying that goes... one_voice Mar 2015 #182

Yes. She is an asshole, no doubt. bravenak Mar 2015 #204

I understand what you're saying... one_voice Mar 2015 #279

That was good. A good post. bravenak Mar 2015 #291

Thanks. Your comment about taking your white friends to the hood made me laugh... one_voice Mar 2015 #360

I think she need therapy. bravenak Mar 2015 #366

It's the same shock expressed at Rev Wright's understanding of America malaise Mar 2015 #185

+1 bravenak Mar 2015 #186

Which is why I did a thread the other day about Wright...BTW, reverse the roles past 200+ yrs NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #212

+1,000 malaise Mar 2015 #393

"As a group" is the problem, isn't it? LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #190

As a group i think something needs to be done. bravenak Mar 2015 #192

I have struggled to try to figure out how to change someone else's mind LiberalAndProud Mar 2015 #224

excellent question heaven05 Mar 2015 #194

Let me know what you come up with.nt bravenak Mar 2015 #217

I did, I hope it's clear enough heaven05 Mar 2015 #289

Take out the words "black" and "white", and ask the question again. Donald Ian Rankin Mar 2015 #195

Humans should love humanity. Why single out "groups"? cry baby Mar 2015 #198

Not a single reason really. Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #199

Thank you. bravenak Mar 2015 #213

What have rich white people, as a group, done for anyone but themselves? nt valerief Mar 2015 #201

Nothing. bravenak Mar 2015 #210

Created millions of jobs NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #219

Nope. Customers did that. nt valerief Mar 2015 #223

I added "at $7 an hour and no benefits" but even with that, you are right...I stand corrected NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #226

Yes, I got your point with the $7/hour. The rich white men did that, of course, once the customers valerief Mar 2015 #227

Your response is very valuable to me because as a business person my first reaction to NoJusticeNoPeace Mar 2015 #230

The greatest change in the world usually comes from those willing to love their enemies. liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #206

I like that. bravenak Mar 2015 #209

Thank you. I've always been fascinated with how much grace and dignity African Americans carried liberal_at_heart Mar 2015 #222

Useless clickbait Android3.14 Mar 2015 #231

Thanks for the kick! bravenak Mar 2015 #242

I would have to say, nothing. sheshe2 Mar 2015 #232

I love you to. bravenak Mar 2015 #239

Solution to racism here: chknltl Mar 2015 #235

I'm with that!!!! Best solution! bravenak Mar 2015 #237

Platform smatform, it's officially in the Liberal Agenda now! chknltl Mar 2015 #375

Please!! I'm dying!! bravenak Mar 2015 #380

Thanks chknltl Mar 2015 #392

I would love it on SNL... bravenak Mar 2015 #394

I just sent a potential DU OP to your inbox chknltl Mar 2015 #418

I read it. bravenak Mar 2015 #419

It's the same thing accdg to my shrinks at the VA chknltl Mar 2015 #423

Quick Translation... Why should black people not be racist? DesMoinesDem Mar 2015 #236

This is racist? AMERICA is racist, lol. bravenak Mar 2015 #240

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #245

Your post is ill concieved and deviod of thought. bravenak Mar 2015 #263

Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #286

Still think you are not that awesome yourself. bravenak Mar 2015 #312

And you sound like Hannity. Reverse Racism!!! The scourge!!! Bane of Anerica!! bravenak Mar 2015 #313

Yep, I'm just like Hannity because I'm offended by racism. If you say so. DesMoinesDem Mar 2015 #387

Where have I ever said I hate white people? bravenak Mar 2015 #388

You started a thread that tried to justify racism (i.e. hatred of an entire race of people) DesMoinesDem Mar 2015 #434

Why would you think I started the thread to Justify racism. bravenak Mar 2015 #437

Indeed it is. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2015 #452

Understanding may not be possible but empathy is..... BlueSky3 Mar 2015 #246

Thank you, great response. bravenak Mar 2015 #268

Thanks. BlueSky3 Mar 2015 #319

One should decide who they love or hate abelenkpe Mar 2015 #248

True. bravenak Mar 2015 #265

My family loves me. secondvariety Mar 2015 #252

You should not care. Good that you don't. bravenak Mar 2015 #259

Every major civil rights achievement in the U.S. has been made possible by Matterate Mar 2015 #257

I said things WE (black people) have not fought and died for. We fought and died for that. bravenak Mar 2015 #260

That was the part of your question that I found unrealistic. Jim Lane Mar 2015 #428

Ok. bravenak Mar 2015 #436

Why should white people love black people? doc03 Mar 2015 #266

That is not an answer. bravenak Mar 2015 #269

I think that is the answer your question deserves. The question itself is doc03 Mar 2015 #277

I thought you... CreekDog Mar 2015 #669

I come back here some, the Discussionist is populated with doc03 Mar 2015 #672

Answer: Because it's the only thing that helps us grow. byronius Mar 2015 #271

Thank you. bravenak Mar 2015 #306

As a group, NOLALady Mar 2015 #272

Yeah, it's the trust part. I wish we could trust, but we know better. bravenak Mar 2015 #305

I just want to point out that everyone loves me. AngryAmish Mar 2015 #274

True! bravenak Mar 2015 #297

To be better than the racists. mmonk Mar 2015 #285

Yep. Good reason. I like it. bravenak Mar 2015 #295

In love, I don't think there are any "shoulds", bravenak - raven mad Mar 2015 #296

Yeah I think it's more of a trust issue myself. bravenak Mar 2015 #304

There, we agree 100%, dear friend! raven mad Mar 2015 #315

. bravenak Mar 2015 #321

I remember Mom saying to Dad "what difference does it make?" He was a bigot. raven mad Mar 2015 #324

Your mom was smart! And cool. Dad was lucky to have her. bravenak Mar 2015 #330

We kids were the lucky ones - raven mad Mar 2015 #352

Poor guy. bravenak Mar 2015 #355

Once he got up here he changed a LOT! This stupid state forces you to! raven mad Mar 2015 #365

There's probably not a good reason HappyMe Mar 2015 #298

Great answer. I agree. bravenak Mar 2015 #299

Quick question...Why should native americans love white people? Rex Mar 2015 #300

Perfect. bravenak Mar 2015 #302

I believe white privilege trumps everything else. Rex Mar 2015 #309

Many think it is their god given right. bravenak Mar 2015 #310

I just cannot bring myself to be an athiest. I stopped at agnostic. Rex Mar 2015 #316

I'm like that too. Agnostic-atheist. bravenak Mar 2015 #320

LOL! Rex Mar 2015 #323

There are other places along the spectrum between love and hate Bettie Mar 2015 #308

Hate is what she feels. I use caution at all times. You never know who will be the next one. bravenak Mar 2015 #311

I'm not entirely sure what you're getting at Bettie Mar 2015 #314

She hates white people because of racist white people. bravenak Mar 2015 #317

Why should black people love the gays? ProudToBeBlueInRhody Mar 2015 #335

I don't see any reason why black people brer cat Mar 2015 #350

Respect and trust. bravenak Mar 2015 #353

Why should anyone love anyone? PeteSelman Mar 2015 #358

True that. bravenak Mar 2015 #373

Another flame throwing post with no useful information or opinion GitRDun Mar 2015 #371

You did not understand the question. It's not me that hates anybody. bravenak Mar 2015 #372

I understood the post perfectly. GitRDun Mar 2015 #376

Lol! I get plenty of attention. bravenak Mar 2015 #379

Why should white people love black people? Aerows Mar 2015 #374

Good answers. bravenak Mar 2015 #381

Well don't get all misty-eyed thinking I'm perfect. Aerows Mar 2015 #415

I'm pissed about Winds of Winter not being out. bravenak Mar 2015 #448

I know Aerows Mar 2015 #469

That is why I never started that series. bravenak Mar 2015 #476

Jon Snow Aerows Mar 2015 #495

How did I miss this? bravenak Mar 2015 #517

I think a majority of white people oppose overt racism, but until White Privaledge is addressed. Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #377

Thank you. bravenak Mar 2015 #382

White people in America (as a whole) have a lot of work to do on privilege and racism.... steve2470 Mar 2015 #401

Thank you Steve. bravenak Mar 2015 #405

Putting the Brave in Bravenak! Anansi1171 Mar 2015 #409

I agree that I cannot defend her homophobia at all. bravenak Mar 2015 #410

Do you support desegregation? XemaSab Mar 2015 #412

What? That is not an answer. bravenak Mar 2015 #413

So why would you want to be around people you don't trust? XemaSab Mar 2015 #431

We don't really have a choice in this world, do we? bravenak Mar 2015 #432

Segregation was the status quo for centuries XemaSab Mar 2015 #444

Did I ever say I was against integration? Or that I wished they hadn't overturned it? bravenak Mar 2015 #445

Here's what you said: XemaSab Mar 2015 #455

They were the ones offended at the idea that a young black woman hated white people bravenak Mar 2015 #458

Doesn't that sort of lead to the converse of respectability politics? XemaSab Mar 2015 #470

I do not understand what you mean. Sorry. bravenak Mar 2015 #471

"I'll trust white people when every last one stops being racist" = XemaSab Mar 2015 #609

Who said that? bravenak Mar 2015 #611

Do you think most white people are racist? XemaSab Mar 2015 #613

What reason do they have to trust them? bravenak Mar 2015 #614

Why should white people trust black people? XemaSab Mar 2015 #615

We never oppressed you. Or enslaved white people. bravenak Mar 2015 #616

QED XemaSab Mar 2015 #617

Wow, girl! no wonder brave is part of your name. marym625 Mar 2015 #420

Name Removed is my biggest fan! bravenak Mar 2015 #422

amen to that! marym625 Mar 2015 #429

. bravenak Mar 2015 #447

Thank you all for the awesome thread!! bravenak Mar 2015 #425

start forest fire with post, go shopping. guillaumeb Mar 2015 #427

I was here tending my thread all day long. bravenak Mar 2015 #446

it was a joke. not clearly indicated. guillaumeb Mar 2015 #552

Sorry dear. bravenak Mar 2015 #554

the feeling is mutual guillaumeb Mar 2015 #556

I love the emoticons. bravenak Mar 2015 #559

'Love?' No reason. elleng Mar 2015 #426

Awesome. And true. bravenak Mar 2015 #439

Pizza. nt Zorra Mar 2015 #430

Yes. I love pizza. bravenak Mar 2015 #440

The poster is referring to the "Tombstone" that used to be displayed on posters' profiles KamaAina Mar 2015 #561

I know. bravenak Mar 2015 #562

Not at all. It was an attempt at humor, and sarcasm, meaning white people invented pizza, Zorra Mar 2015 #598

Thank god!! bravenak Mar 2015 #601

Why should White people do anything to "make Black people" like them? Skip Intro Mar 2015 #449

Oh, look who it is. bravenak Mar 2015 #456

No answer as usual. n/t Skip Intro Mar 2015 #461

You had none yourself to my op. bravenak Mar 2015 #462

first post since December? CreekDog Mar 2015 #663

his first post since December CreekDog Mar 2015 #664

This thread uspet him horribly. bravenak Mar 2015 #665

well, AverageJoe90 and H. Cromwell were both banned that day CreekDog Mar 2015 #666

True. They needed a representative and ge was happy to fill that role. bravenak Mar 2015 #667

god help me, I just saw this.... steve2470 Mar 2015 #658

85% of black people identify as Christians madville Mar 2015 #460

I'm not. And christianity is full of bad stuff too. Like 'slaves obey your masters'. bravenak Mar 2015 #465

Would you hate whites if you were black? Stellar Mar 2015 #472

I am black. bravenak Mar 2015 #478

I don't hate white people... Stellar Mar 2015 #483

I don't hate white people either. bravenak Mar 2015 #485

Sorry you had to deal with that hatred, Stellar Mar 2015 #500

I know they were there. I mean something bigger. I think it's time. bravenak Mar 2015 #502

We shall over come some day.... Stellar Mar 2015 #503

I'll be saying for years to come. bravenak Mar 2015 #504

as a black, I think this is a dumb question DeadEyeDyck Mar 2015 #477

You do not have to like it. bravenak Mar 2015 #482

Hard to find a good reason, if you're speaking of us white folks in general. Ken Burch Mar 2015 #486

My solution is to build trust. bravenak Mar 2015 #488

We always have the choice of feeding our higher angels or our IsItJustMe Mar 2015 #487

all people should love all people. Sarcastica Mar 2015 #501

They don't sadly. bravenak Mar 2015 #506

Do you mean "they don't" or "we don't". Sarcastica Mar 2015 #523

Simple answer ... because they are people ... slipslidingaway Mar 2015 #505

The entire civil rights movement was confrontational. bravenak Mar 2015 #518

I don't know if you heard about Common's comment, Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #510

I think he got that wrong. bravenak Mar 2015 #511

Not too long ago, Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #512

That is very dissapointing thinking about that. bravenak Mar 2015 #513

What is this romanic Mar 2015 #516

For Common to say what he did, Jamaal510 Mar 2015 #634

One of the best of all times. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #524

I see why there are so many minorities here. bravenak Mar 2015 #529

I have no clue of the racial breakdown of this site. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #533

Of course you have no clue about it. bravenak Mar 2015 #536

Truly makes no sense. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #543

They have that power. You did not even bother reading the thread. bravenak Mar 2015 #546

Understood. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #550

I am telling you the truth. bravenak Mar 2015 #553

I do have an idea that this site is good at driving bigots away. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #558

What the hell does this bullshit even mean? bravenak Mar 2015 #560

Act innocent as if you didn't claim this site..... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #567

Please just stop. You got everything 100 percent wrong and I believe it was on purpose. bravenak Mar 2015 #568

I have got nothing wrong. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #571

Please just leave me alone. bravenak Mar 2015 #572

You should not comment direclty to the debate,..... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #575

Please leave me alone. bravenak Mar 2015 #578

Your words are there to read. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #579

Leave me alone. bravenak Mar 2015 #580

How can you claim I am wrong, NCTraveler Mar 2015 #585

You need to leave me alone and do your own research. bravenak Mar 2015 #586

I have not picked apart posts of yours. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #590

I swear I told you to leave me alone. bravenak Mar 2015 #592

This can start you off and you can work your way backwards through time, while leaving me alone. bravenak Mar 2015 #589

Love the writing of MrScorpio. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #593

I never said I wanted to be more inclusive of bigots. You did. Now leave me alone. bravenak Mar 2015 #596

Once again, don't make an innacurate claim against me..... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #603

Yes. US MINORITIES calling out BIGOTS all the time is why many of US have left. bravenak Mar 2015 #604

Nice one eighty. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #605

I have said this over and over on DU. Even wrote an op about it last year in AA. bravenak Mar 2015 #606

You backed up your position multiple times... NCTraveler Mar 2015 #607

I'm glad you realized you were wrong! Since I told you bye bye until you get it. bravenak Mar 2015 #608

You know what? romanic Mar 2015 #641

Don't care. bravenak Mar 2015 #643

The problem is that you don't know shit about me. bravenak Mar 2015 #647

I came at you foul romanic Mar 2015 #670

Worry about yourself. bravenak Mar 2015 #671

I'll mind mines honey romanic Mar 2015 #673

You still here? bravenak Mar 2015 #674

There are indeed black people here. KamaAina Mar 2015 #563

My point is that the party is full of us and there are so FEW here. bravenak Mar 2015 #564

Well, that sucks. KamaAina Mar 2015 #569

People are very sensitive. bravenak Mar 2015 #570

Seems like an Inflammatory question meant to drive the race wedge deeper. NM_Birder Mar 2015 #526

Way to get out of answering. You did not need to reply. Thanks. bravenak Mar 2015 #528

you too. I'll answer, bet you won't. I don't hate or distrust black people as a group, NM_Birder Mar 2015 #537

I remember hateful stuff from you. bravenak Mar 2015 #538

Sure. NM_Birder Mar 2015 #542

Bye. bravenak Mar 2015 #544

Because they are people. LWolf Mar 2015 #530

They don't love us. They show us by how our society is run in white supremacy. bravenak Mar 2015 #534

You are doing exactly what I'm referring to. LWolf Mar 2015 #539

It is hard to love white supremacy. bravenak Mar 2015 #541

True. LWolf Mar 2015 #626

It took me years to separate the people from the policy they benefit from. bravenak Mar 2015 #627

I agree with that. LWolf Mar 2015 #636

Why should anyone hate a group based on skin color? MellowDem Mar 2015 #531

They hate the oblivious beneficiaries of white supremacy. bravenak Mar 2015 #540

I'm not surprised... MellowDem Mar 2015 #618

Yep. Can't do anything about stuff we don't understand. bravenak Mar 2015 #619

I agree with that... MellowDem Mar 2015 #621

b/c historically they have been punished terribly when they have not smiled and shucked and jived TheSarcastinator Mar 2015 #547

I think we may be just about done shucking and jiving. bravenak Mar 2015 #548

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PBIDOWTFYAM. UrbScotty Mar 2015 #555

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I don't think I've ever seen a thread with this many replies JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #581

Remember the one about restarting a draft by some liz lady? bravenak Mar 2015 #584

Let's get it up there JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #587

I'm on my way, what time is dinner? bravenak Mar 2015 #591

Lori Sansone JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #594

Is it walking in place? bravenak Mar 2015 #597

Yep walking in place! JustAnotherGen Mar 2015 #599

All right, I think that is workable. bravenak Mar 2015 #600

Sounds like a meal I will make heaven05 Mar 2015 #661

This may yet overtake the kudzu thread as DU's longest KamaAina Mar 2015 #588

Omg!! bravenak Mar 2015 #595

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Problem with this "Quick question".. not exactly well thought out. 2banon Mar 2015 #624

Many were outraged to find that some young black people don't like or trust white people. bravenak Mar 2015 #625

True Enough! I guess it seemed like such a pedestrian question if not simply a rhetorical devise... 2banon Mar 2015 #630

I hope the same people participate next time. bravenak Mar 2015 #631

Great question. ZombieHorde Mar 2015 #638

Thank you. I agree with you. bravenak Mar 2015 #639

I don't know JonLP24 Mar 2015 #642

one final comment heaven05 Mar 2015 #655

Thank you. bravenak Mar 2015 #660

The only reason would be from compassion WhiteTara Mar 2015 #656

Because you have to love others to love yourself. Hate the actions not the person. McCamy Taylor Mar 2015 #657

Judging character linked to melanin in your skin? gordianot Mar 2015 #676

Should have read the thread. bravenak Mar 2015 #677

I did, makes me sad on many different levels, no fault of yours. gordianot Mar 2015 #678

This particular issue depresses me too. bravenak Mar 2015 #679

In the early 1970's I took a class on Slavery in Missouri known at the time as Black Studies. gordianot Mar 2015 #680

That is a shocking tale in more ways than one. bravenak Mar 2015 #681

Life is complicated there are some relatives you may not want to know about. gordianot Mar 2015 #682