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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
33. It's the same dishonest, malicious strategy.
Thu Mar 19, 2015, 03:07 PM
Mar 2015

Women have the right to abortion. There is no "20 week" exception. There is no, "Well, the idiots have now decided they 'don't buy' the science on fetal development, so they've decided to force women to undergo increased complication, expense and danger" exception.

It's just another attempt to imply that abortion is "baby killing," which it still is not, and to stop women from having abortions, which is still illegal to do.

The racist South did not want to accept that black people are human beings who can vote and go to school and eat in restaurants, and so raised all kinds of other "concerns" about whether people could pass poll tests, or pay a "fee," or, more recently, obtain enough proof of identification. The concerns are always lies, cutely tailored to imply that something is wrong with the target of the bigotry.

A poll test, to "make sure people are educated enough to vote." Which happens to impact the poor or the recently enslaved, who may not read as well, but whose rights are equal nevertheless.

A tax, which just happens to once again raise a barrier to the poor. The pretense is again that there is some other need or concern.

But the "concerns" are always lies and pretense. Racists and conservatives really just don't want non-whites or the poor to vote, so they devise barriers based on geography or the ability to drive somewhere or to be off of work in the middle of the week, or to put enough documents together to get the right form of ID. In each case, the "concern" being addressed is a facade.

And so now, with the misogynist anti-abortionists, we have so many new "concerns." It is illegal to impede the right to abortion, so we will add some thoughtful "licensing" requirements for clinics, to make them "safer." But that is a sneering pretense, like the poll tax or voter ID. The clinics get closed, the anti-abortionists get what they want, which is to find another way to deny another group of people their human rights.

And it's not as though this is some opinion of mine. Republicans cackle openly about their recent onslaught of "concerned" legislation effectively ending the right to abortion in state after state.

They're achieving illegal ends by (questionably) legal means, and they think it's just adorable, the way they can hurt people by subverting the law.

Before that, we had the "partial-birth abortion" canard, an invented procedure falsely implying babies about to be born were being "aborted." That was never really a thing, but the fake concern worked, restrictions were passed, and the camel's nose was under the tent.

Apparently this year's Jim Crow anti-abortion "concern" is the "20-week abortion?" As you note, there is no science or reasoning behind this new magic date that is supposed to again mean that nearly-born "babies" are being aborted, but as always, the ignorant, malicious bigot's "concern" is enough to accomplish the real goal of interfering with rights they wish to take from others.

This cutesy legislative concern trolling over abortion, which is not so cute really, because it will kill women who need a medical procedure to which they an absolute right, is the same trick, by many of the same people, and it's fooling no one, and it will end in shame on the trash heap of history with the rest of the bigotry and ignorance and hatred the world is slowly by surely tossing aside.



just one more repuke controlled state that is investing in demeaning and controlling women cali Mar 2015 #1
but, we keep being told there is NO war on women. niyad Mar 2015 #2
and what a load of crap that is! cali Mar 2015 #3
how is this demeaning and controlling to women? strawberries Mar 2015 #4
It's like you didn't even read it. Brickbat Mar 2015 #8
can you prove fetuses don't feel pain at 20 weeks? strawberries Mar 2015 #11
the best evidence is that they do not cali Mar 2015 #23
I read that too strawberries Mar 2015 #26
Because that is the only goal of the legislation. jeff47 Mar 2015 #12
I don't buy the 27 week thing for pain strawberries Mar 2015 #14
Reality doesn't give a shit if you buy it or not. jeff47 Mar 2015 #16
anger does not do you justice strawberries Mar 2015 #18
I'm not angry. I'm used to the ignorance of anti-choice people. jeff47 Mar 2015 #21
ok. post links. cali Mar 2015 #20
Post removed Post removed Mar 2015 #25
You quote two conservative pro-life websites for support? Seriously? NickB79 Mar 2015 #32
Maybe let's let doctors do the doctoring. DirkGently Mar 2015 #28
So we would leave it up to the strawberries Mar 2015 #31
I don't think actual doctors have even heard of this. DirkGently Mar 2015 #34
Strawberries, your journal post says you are a conservative. If you are a rightwinger as you LiberalLoner Mar 2015 #41
well if you took the time to continue reading strawberries Mar 2015 #43
Just curious, what Republican stances do you disagree with, specifically? LiberalLoner Mar 2015 #44
cali said 24 weeks strawberries Mar 2015 #29
I didn't reply to cali. I replied to you. jeff47 Mar 2015 #30
You might consider that that holds true for you. cali Mar 2015 #37
ok, I could be wrong too, maybe the fetus feels nothing strawberries Mar 2015 #39
Maybe it was this "Women's Rights Expert" GreatGazoo Mar 2015 #36
Are they going to require "fetal anesthesia" for birth? REP Mar 2015 #5
it would probably be harmful strawberries Mar 2015 #7
It punishes the woman because they have to get to the fetus to anesthetize it. jeff47 Mar 2015 #13
don't they have to go through the woman to perform the abortion? nt strawberries Mar 2015 #15
Nope. jeff47 Mar 2015 #17
going through vagina/cervix is that not part of the woman? strawberries Mar 2015 #19
They need direct access to the fetus in order to anesthetize it. jeff47 Mar 2015 #22
Just think if we put this much effort into ensuring child hunger was ended world wide... LynneSin Mar 2015 #6
There are programs all around strawberries Mar 2015 #9
I know what 20 weeks look like and no woman should still be required an ultrasound LynneSin Mar 2015 #35
Republicans push the ultrasound tammywammy Mar 2015 #42
there should be mandatory public colonoscopies for the clowns hobbit709 Mar 2015 #10
More Jim Crow-level sneering evil. DirkGently Mar 2015 #24
How did you manage to connect strawberries Mar 2015 #27
It's the same dishonest, malicious strategy. DirkGently Mar 2015 #33
THE STUPID. cwydro Mar 2015 #38
Assholes ismnotwasm Mar 2015 #40
. . . niyad Mar 2015 #45
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