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fredamae

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128. What "baggage"?

Sat Mar 21, 2015, 10:48 AM

Mar 2015

Seriously, what real baggage can HRC possibly have? She and Bill have had So many "Personal and Political Colonoscopy's" there is little to nothing Serious left to discover.

While I too am not a HRC supporter - I'm not buying the bs "they're" spreading.
She Can win....that's Why the Left wants a good Primary Before the Dems POTUS candidate is finalized, imo.
And that's also Why the GOP is trying Soooooo hard to knock her out Now by manufacturing whatever crises they can imagine......

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Hillary can't win.....period [View all] backwoodsbob Mar 2015 OP

While I don't support Hillary I do believe virtually any Democratic nominee will win in 2016 davidsilver Mar 2015 #1

I agree. The Blue Wall is real and it would be a real shame not to take namastea42 Mar 2015 #35

Yes, I agree. davidsilver Mar 2015 #90

+1 n/t JimDandy Mar 2015 #102

But the precedent does favor the Republicans Art_from_Ark Mar 2015 #130

I agree but we live in a new age with new electoral math davidsilver Mar 2015 #131

And, on foreign affairs, she has an enormous handicap - Hillary is Bibi. "There is no daylight" leveymg Mar 2015 #2

Handicap? I'm afraid some think it's a plus. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #81

On Israel, actually, there is a clear split between the "maximalists" (HRC, AIPAC, GOP) and Obama leveymg Mar 2015 #82

He has a nuanced view particularly in light of that of the hardliners. AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #89

Have you seen recent polls? Double digit leads. JaneyVee Mar 2015 #3

Eric Cantor's polls said the same thing Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #24

The difference is Cantor's polls were internal polls mythology Mar 2015 #31

it's not a material difference in this case Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #37

Agreed. /nt Marr Mar 2015 #57

+1 uponit7771 Mar 2015 #52

There wasn't nearly as much polling on the Cantor campaign. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #111

well, the best proxy for Hillary 2016 is... Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #115

Ronald Reagan lost the 1976 Republican primary and won the presidency twice by landslides. DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #121

Totally. I'll take an activist actor over a self-serving sneaky politician any day. nt NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #123

The polls are saying something quite different. MineralMan Mar 2015 #4

Democratic support for Hillary drops 15 points since February awake Mar 2015 #7

Polls show Hillary Clinton beating all her Republican challengers by double digits DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #8

In 2007, Hillary led all the polls nichomachus Mar 2015 #41

Against a Democratic challenger. gcomeau Mar 2015 #67

Shhhh! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #83

Is she running against Barack Obama?/NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #85

Yes, and she has been since Dec. 2012. She runs to his right, enabling Bibi. leveymg Mar 2015 #87

Your accusation that she is running against President Obama because of a three year old... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #88

Who is she running against, then? Hillary is still running with Bibi against Obama. leveymg Mar 2015 #116

An attack on her LEFT flank (though Obama is still too centrist). She is republican kryptonite. MillennialDem Mar 2015 #112

In 2007, her share varied from 22% to 53%; mostly around 35-40% muriel_volestrangler Mar 2015 #133

How long do you think people will tout this poll. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #32

As long as her supporters claim great support. Marr Mar 2015 #58

... and independents love her... go hillary !!! uponit7771 Mar 2015 #53

So we should ignore all the polls showing her beating every potential GOP candidate. Cali_Democrat Mar 2015 #5

Yup nichomachus Mar 2015 #43

Ok run some other slob against Jeb Bush and what have you got? 8 more years of The_Casual_Observer Mar 2015 #6

We can run an actual Democrat this time & win, RiverLover Mar 2015 #11

No "real" Democrat is ever going to win and haven't for a long long time. The_Casual_Observer Mar 2015 #46

Yep-- there's no excuse for compromising so severely this time, much less pre-primary. Marr Mar 2015 #60

Gosh is that you Ralph Nadir? nt WhiteTara Mar 2015 #127

You know, I don't begrudge our party's right-wing for claiming to be Dems. Marr Mar 2015 #129

I couldn't agree more. Savannahmann Mar 2015 #12

Yep. She may be a corporatist trollup to Wall Street and war profiteers, but she is OUR corporatist GoneFishin Mar 2015 #54

Run HRC against Bush and you will get the same results. nm rhett o rick Mar 2015 #51

Where have we heard that before? Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #80

I didn't say that, in fact no one ever said that. It's a Strawman. rhett o rick Mar 2015 #97

Sorry Rhett I've heard that kind of shit from you before Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2015 #103

Yeah, but it's good shit. Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #118

You are wrong OKNancy Mar 2015 #9

I'm curious as to why Biden is never considered? cwydro Mar 2015 #10

He's my second choice. It is , imho, a testament to HRC's strength that she handily defeats him ... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #15

Good point. cwydro Mar 2015 #16

Message auto-removed Name removed Mar 2015 #13

Should have started to develop this "anyone else" you speak of about 4 years ago. JoePhilly Mar 2015 #14

Everyone assumes people will turn out for her the way they did for Obama. Calista241 Mar 2015 #17

Name someone who wasn't already in the Republican camp who would reject Hillary over the email story brooklynite Mar 2015 #18

Oh pish posh. Everybody lies. Why should Hillary be held to a higher standard? AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #19

Here is an opinion piece from the LA Times on luggage and baggage: namastea42 Mar 2015 #47

Funny stuff. /nt AtomicKitten Mar 2015 #76

"Republicans do it all the time, why is everyone picking on Hillary Clinton?" NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #120

I think Hillary's campaign leaked the email story Prism Mar 2015 #20

normally I would agree Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #25

good point. She was not very convincing or comfortable. namastea42 Mar 2015 #39

She's not that bad...sheesh BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #21

"great resume"? Man from Pickens Mar 2015 #44

The world's a mess and it's all her fault! BeyondGeography Mar 2015 #48

I look forward to the primaries. MelungeonWoman Mar 2015 #22

I don't. There's going to be post after post attacking non-Clinton voters jeff47 Mar 2015 #23

There's non-corporate Republicans?!?! Please enlighten me. Who are they?!?! nt stillwaiting Mar 2015 #77

Clinton will be inaugurated in 2017. Orsino Mar 2015 #26

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!! MohRokTah Mar 2015 #27

Beat me to it. A HERETIC I AM Mar 2015 #42

Lol. hrmjustin Mar 2015 #28

PRESIDENT TRUMP THANKS YOU Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #29

Hyperbole much? truebluegreen Mar 2015 #38

Save the Jimmy Jihad Carter right wing bullshit for a different board. NCTraveler Mar 2015 #30

It's amazing how many Democrats don't realize how much she's hated by much of America. n/t Dawgs Mar 2015 #33

THAT'S WHAT PRESIDENT CARSON IS COUNTING ON Capt. Obvious Mar 2015 #40

That's probably because she isn't. NanceGreggs Mar 2015 #101

Bookmarking for Nov 9, 2016...nt SidDithers Mar 2015 #34

Bookmarking for March 2, 2016...nt ieoeja Mar 2015 #69

Bookmarking for April of 2015 android fan Mar 2015 #105

Sorry but none of that matters. It's all about the OFA database. underpants Mar 2015 #36

what is the ofa database? questionseverything Mar 2015 #64

Obama For America now called Organize For America underpants Mar 2015 #66

She emails me android fan Mar 2015 #106

I'm guessing if you were a great political strategist or clairvoyant BainsBane Mar 2015 #45

+1 FLPanhandle Mar 2015 #50

OK but the polls say otherwise at this point. liberal N proud Mar 2015 #49

A clear majority in all the polls support Senator/Secretary of State Hillary Clinton Agnosticsherbet Mar 2015 #55

I'm not a big Hillary fan, but at this point I'm certain she'll be elected if she runs. Vinca Mar 2015 #56

I'll alert the media n/t Lil Missy Mar 2015 #59

It's still early on yet. hamsterjill Mar 2015 #61

Is this supposed to be a joke? NaturalHigh Mar 2015 #62

I believe Hillary can win randr Mar 2015 #63

I'm inclined to agree with you. SheilaT Mar 2015 #65

Are you serious? Who will destroy her? Rick Perry? He can't even count to 3. Rex Mar 2015 #68

Republicans don't disagree with HRC on money/war issues Cosmic Kitten Mar 2015 #70

I'm ascared! Kingofalldems Mar 2015 #71

Your prophecies will be given all the credibility they indeed, warrant. LanternWaste Mar 2015 #72

Ok, take a breath Proud Public Servant Mar 2015 #73

Baggage? If the other side can run a Bush, we can run a Clinton and win. NightWatcher Mar 2015 #74

Aww, she's lost the dog-shooter vote? Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #75

They are a hard lot to please! digonswine Mar 2015 #84

So classy. Where does such classiness come from? Mom's side, Dad's? NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #93

I don't know--I didn't know a propensity for murdering animals was hereditary. Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #95

I'm so glad I'm me and not a mean person who likes to bully and intimidate. That's so weak. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #96

I'm glad I don't shoot dogs either! Starry Messenger Mar 2015 #98

Yes, do tell us how it's not classy to bring up past dog killings CreekDog Mar 2015 #108

Unfortunately . . . Major Hogwash Mar 2015 #117

Oh goody! Another anti-Hillary thread for the trash bin! leftofcool Mar 2015 #78

I got the sign Hillary will run and win. As I went through the check out line Thinkingabout Mar 2015 #79

Why not leave Hillary out of it? If you've got someone else in mind, talk about them. Of course, Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #86

Problem is whoever they want to run would rather eat a urinal cake than deal with the far left. great white snark Mar 2015 #91

!!! Tarheel_Dem Mar 2015 #94

+1 treestar Mar 2015 #125

I've heard Katherine Willey on the radio twice this week. NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #92

"Kathleen Willey", really... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #99

Brickbat! I'll look that up! NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #100

What backwoodsbob said KMOD Mar 2015 #104

Based on your dog stories, she'd probably have to disavow your support CreekDog Mar 2015 #107

If Hillary can't win... TeeYiYi Mar 2015 #109

I've got one phrase that fits what a Clinton campaign will be: A "Hot Mess". NYC_SKP Mar 2015 #110

She can win JonLP24 Mar 2015 #113

I suspect she isn't very popular with the backwoods Duck Dynasty crowd... DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #114

Barn Burner huh? IsItJustMe Mar 2015 #119

That's wishful thinking, not fact. n/t Lil Missy Mar 2015 #122

Email thing has already been out there treestar Mar 2015 #124

"Hillary can't win.....period," DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #126

What "baggage"? fredamae Mar 2015 #128

Okay, I don't agree with you, but if those of us who are "Hillary hangers on" should "face it"... classof56 Mar 2015 #132