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riverbendviewgal

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61. citizen based taxation vs resident based taxation

Mon Mar 23, 2015, 10:37 AM

Mar 2015

I surmise your friend has his home base as the USA. So if he works in France, he will pay taxes to France and the USA but not Germany because Germany uses resident based taxes.

If he lives and works in Germany he pays taxes to Germany and the USA. If he lives in the USA and works in the USA he pays taxes to the USA only.

The USA uses citizen based taxation. It is the only country besides Eritrea that yses Citizen based taxes.

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Just a quick question about Israeli citizenship [View all] sadoldgirl Mar 2015 OP

That's not how it works... brooklynite Mar 2015 #1

Your question evinces a basic misunderstanding jberryhill Mar 2015 #2

I think the OP's question evinces something else as well onenote Mar 2015 #3

I concur jberryhill Mar 2015 #4

Hit and run poster = reason to believe otherwise. onenote Mar 2015 #62

the USA is the only country that makes its duals riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #5

Sort of... jberryhill Mar 2015 #6

the tax compliance industry charges huge fees even if one owes nothing riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #7

The thing is... jberryhill Mar 2015 #8

the children were not registered riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #11

Many people who live abroad use TurboTax; you can also exclude up to $100k from your earnings when Chathamization Mar 2015 #14

those who use Turbo Tax have their home base in the USA riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #17

No, people living abroad indefinitely use it. Of course, if you have a complicated situation it may Chathamization Mar 2015 #18

No other country does, except Eritrea Spider Jerusalem Mar 2015 #9

correct but it only wants 2 percent of it Eritean's income riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #12

Yes, they are--I also remember a 180 day rule where you paid less tax if you stayed out of the MADem Mar 2015 #25

I think that's for the first year jberryhill Mar 2015 #29

I think the US does recognize membership of indigenous nations HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #46

There are significant laws relating to recognized tribes and bands jberryhill Mar 2015 #47

So dual citizenship in 'domestic' nations -is- distinct from HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #50

Yeah in this context jberryhill Mar 2015 #51

Iran is holding a USMC veteran in jail on charges who was born in Flagstaff, AZ. MADem Mar 2015 #10

happens all around the world to accidental Americans riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #13

This guy wasn't an accident. He was born and raised here, he's a USMC vet. MADem Mar 2015 #15

good suggestion to renounce early riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #19

I was never taught such things but I was not educated exclusively in USA. MADem Mar 2015 #22

The reality is that Boris paid taxes to the US for the sale of his house riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #23

Well the article said the issue is "settled" so I don't know. MADem Mar 2015 #24

That is not the case riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #27

Housing is treated differently. MADem Mar 2015 #30

In Toronto the average house is a million dollars riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #32

I live in a house that is worth at least three quarters of a million dollars on paper. MADem Mar 2015 #38

so you understand riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #40

I'll probably die in this house. MADem Mar 2015 #43

I wish you good health and happiness riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #45

Thank you--I don't wanna die any time soon, mind you! MADem Mar 2015 #48

Thanks MADem riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #57

Is that fee independent of whether one has lived in the US? jberryhill Mar 2015 #34

That is the fee...to renounce US citizenship no matter what the circumstances riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #36

I know people with dual edhopper Mar 2015 #16

are they living in the USA? riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #20

Yes edhopper Mar 2015 #58

that is the difference riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #59

Difference from what edhopper Mar 2015 #60

citizen based taxation vs resident based taxation riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #61

Okay edhopper Mar 2015 #65

"Dual Nationality"... PoliticAverse Mar 2015 #21

Many of those born in the USA - Accidentals riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #26

Did you know that France has voting representation for its citizens who live abroad riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #28

That's simply not true SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #31

I know about the Federal riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #33

Make up your mind SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #37

I am referring to those Americans who have no intention to return riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #41

Oh, I see SickOfTheOnePct Mar 2015 #42

I'm sorry, but that is absolute horseshit. MADem Mar 2015 #39

You were not permanently residing abroad riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #44

I was gone for YEARS at a time, and not always under the military rubric. MADem Mar 2015 #49

lets look at London Mayor Boris Johnson riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #54

I wonder if Ted Cruz ever got around to that, seeing as he is declaring his intention to run for MADem Mar 2015 #55

Cruz renounced his Canadian citizenship riverbendviewgal Mar 2015 #56

I am a citizen of the world./NT DemocratSinceBirth Mar 2015 #35

I'm good with that, until HereSince1628 Mar 2015 #53

My wife reciently got her US citizenship. She is still a Colombian citizen, as well. (nt) stone space Mar 2015 #52

This message was self-deleted by its author NCTraveler Mar 2015 #63

Arnold Schwarzenegger was Governor of CA and a dual citizen of the US and Austria Bluenorthwest Mar 2015 #64