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Tierra_y_Libertad

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9. Very positive. Now the people know some of what their government does.

Reply to WillyT (Original post)

Mon Apr 6, 2015, 04:10 PM

Apr 2015

Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice; nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity. Lord Acton

Whenever the people are well informed, they can be trusted with their own government; that whenever things get so far wrong as to attract their notice, they may be relied on to set them to rights.

Thomas Jefferson

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Re: Edward Snowden... Let's Make It Simple [View all] WillyT Apr 2015 OP

What kinda fudge are we talking, though? F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #1

I'm going to pass until I see how some specific DUers vote. MineralMan Apr 2015 #2

I make up my own mind about issues. We sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #5

Oh, my... MineralMan Apr 2015 #7

Yes, actually, I did since I saw nothing to say it wasn't serious. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #8

No, actually. You don't know me at all, MineralMan Apr 2015 #17

I know you only by your writings on the internet. Which is how most people are known on sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #19

Ah... The Voice Of Reason And Moderation... That Never Gets Angry WillyT Apr 2015 #22

Oh, I'm angry, but about different things than you, MineralMan Apr 2015 #23

We Might Agree On Many Things, I Suspect, But... WillyT Apr 2015 #28

She didn't understand that you weren't being truthful. I believe she took your words DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #25

Well, I'm glad you understood. MineralMan Apr 2015 #26

Thanks for asking. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #27

Yup. MineralMan Apr 2015 #30

! Number23 Apr 2015 #13

A positive but -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2015 #3

Interesting. I watched "Citizen Four" and came away very unimpressed. Dawgs Apr 2015 #6

I just saw Citizen 4 and it was excellent, removed all the shameful lies told by those who have so sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #14

It did not win two Oscars, it won one. zappaman Apr 2015 #15

You keeping track of people? neverforget Apr 2015 #20

No, doing math. zappaman Apr 2015 #21

KA-BOOM!!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #24

This is the question that the Snowden haters always avoid LittleBlue Apr 2015 #4

Very positive. Now the people know some of what their government does. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #9

Thank You For Those... WillyT Apr 2015 #10

They had the potential to be a net positive. gcomeau Apr 2015 #11

Actually it went very well. Snowden has not been silenced as Manning was for one thing, the public sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #16

I think you may be confusing... gcomeau Apr 2015 #36

I am confusing nothing. For one thing, unlike in Manning's case, the Government, who attempted to sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #37

Show me the reforms actually happening,. gcomeau Apr 2015 #38

What are you talking about? First you claim that Snowden 'squirmed' when asked about sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #40

I pointed you at the exact time stamp of the squirming elsewhere. gcomeau Apr 2015 #41

Really positive because before we had no idea what was going on Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #12

years before that can be answered nt arely staircase Apr 2015 #18

Watching John Oliver's piece..shocked at the ignorance of Americans Sienna86 Apr 2015 #29

Why would we care that the NSA monitors foreign communications? It's their job. randome Apr 2015 #35

I'll defer judgement until it all comes out Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #31

an absolute as well as a net positive MisterP Apr 2015 #32

That's What I Was Thinking... WillyT Apr 2015 #33

Morning Kick !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #34

I think we should stop trying to make it simple. Orsino Apr 2015 #39