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sabrina 1

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40. What are you talking about? First you claim that Snowden 'squirmed' when asked about
Tue Apr 7, 2015, 01:37 PM
Apr 2015

releasing the information. You still have not provided a link to the 'squirm'. Then you criticize him FOR answering the question.

You must despise Ellsberg also. He released his info to the press, as ALL WHISTLE BLOWERS DO.

And the SC ruled that the press, in that case the NYT, could not be silenced when the public's NEED TO KNOW overcame the Government's NEED TO HIDE information.

It was a definitive ruling FOR Whistle Blowers and set a precedent that stands today.

So what should Whistle Blowers do with information of corruption in government if NOT got to the press?

Snowden is confident, see again the SC RULING ON THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO KNOW AND THE PRESS'S right to publish what they need to know, that he DID THE RIGHT THING, by going to the press who HAS the SC ruling behind them to publish leaked documents when the public's right to know is at stake.

What is hilarious is how those who are anti-Snowden/Whistle Blowers are so confused now and contradicting each other.

Eg, I was told by an anti-Snowden/Whistle Blower, that REFORMS HAVE BEEN MADE. So I should not be concerned anymore.

NOW, you are contradicting someone who is on your side, and claiming NO REFORMS HAVE BEEN MADE.

Lol, the reforms made are that the NSA cannot access the data they have collected without a warrant.

And that reform alone, confirms Snowden's claims, that they were doing so WITHOUT A WARRANT until now.

What kinda fudge are we talking, though? F4lconF16 Apr 2015 #1
I'm going to pass until I see how some specific DUers vote. MineralMan Apr 2015 #2
I make up my own mind about issues. We sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #5
Oh, my... MineralMan Apr 2015 #7
Yes, actually, I did since I saw nothing to say it wasn't serious. sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #8
No, actually. You don't know me at all, MineralMan Apr 2015 #17
I know you only by your writings on the internet. Which is how most people are known on sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #19
Ah... The Voice Of Reason And Moderation... That Never Gets Angry WillyT Apr 2015 #22
Oh, I'm angry, but about different things than you, MineralMan Apr 2015 #23
We Might Agree On Many Things, I Suspect, But... WillyT Apr 2015 #28
She didn't understand that you weren't being truthful. I believe she took your words DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #25
Well, I'm glad you understood. MineralMan Apr 2015 #26
Thanks for asking. DisgustipatedinCA Apr 2015 #27
Yup. MineralMan Apr 2015 #30
! Number23 Apr 2015 #13
A positive but -- Hell Hath No Fury Apr 2015 #3
Interesting. I watched "Citizen Four" and came away very unimpressed. Dawgs Apr 2015 #6
I just saw Citizen 4 and it was excellent, removed all the shameful lies told by those who have so sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #14
It did not win two Oscars, it won one. zappaman Apr 2015 #15
You keeping track of people? neverforget Apr 2015 #20
No, doing math. zappaman Apr 2015 #21
KA-BOOM!!! Major Hogwash Apr 2015 #24
This is the question that the Snowden haters always avoid LittleBlue Apr 2015 #4
Very positive. Now the people know some of what their government does. Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #9
Thank You For Those... WillyT Apr 2015 #10
They had the potential to be a net positive. gcomeau Apr 2015 #11
Actually it went very well. Snowden has not been silenced as Manning was for one thing, the public sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #16
I think you may be confusing... gcomeau Apr 2015 #36
I am confusing nothing. For one thing, unlike in Manning's case, the Government, who attempted to sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #37
Show me the reforms actually happening,. gcomeau Apr 2015 #38
What are you talking about? First you claim that Snowden 'squirmed' when asked about sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #40
I pointed you at the exact time stamp of the squirming elsewhere. gcomeau Apr 2015 #41
Really positive because before we had no idea what was going on Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #12
years before that can be answered nt arely staircase Apr 2015 #18
Watching John Oliver's piece..shocked at the ignorance of Americans Sienna86 Apr 2015 #29
Why would we care that the NSA monitors foreign communications? It's their job. randome Apr 2015 #35
I'll defer judgement until it all comes out Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #31
an absolute as well as a net positive MisterP Apr 2015 #32
That's What I Was Thinking... WillyT Apr 2015 #33
Morning Kick !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #34
I think we should stop trying to make it simple. Orsino Apr 2015 #39
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