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Thu Apr 9, 2015, 08:24 AM

12. Rehabilitation has worked in Scandinavia. But they are committed to a whole social solution, not

just in the prison system. Some people are hard wired to not give a damn who they hurt They are only concerned about themselves. That fits some politicans and individuals.

Having seen the damage done to victims of such crimes as the raping young children, the lack of empathy is simply not there and cannot be taught or talked out of doing it again. They can't be rehabilitated and will commit the same offenses again.

Some were victims who turned into perpertrators. Some, and these are the really disturbing ones, were not victims but enjoyed the thrill or the profit in some cases from what they did. I don't want them on the street.

Their victims carry a life sentence and are hard wired to not be able to cope or manage productive relations with anyone, some of them. Only 'lucky' ones, if someone who has had their minds broken can ever be thought to be 'lucky,' get costly, long-term, staffed professional help.

Others become shut ins, never get to achieve anything in life, or in the most severe cases I've seen, are institutionalized because they have lost their minds altogether. I won't go into details, as it's not my right to tell them. I've just seen too much and this has to be stopped.

I don't see an particularly liberal or humane to stop it except for long terms of incarceration. I've had the discussions of rehabilitation and my hopes for some with a number of legal and professional persons. After one discussion with a very caring attorney, she finally said to me, 'Not all people can be helped. Some are simply broken beyond repair.'

It was a very sobering thought. and against my more idealist thinking that 'anyone' can be changed. Some don't want to change, some can't. It may be for no fault of their own. But they will not stop what they are doing to the innocent. And they should be the ones protected first, to prevent more destruction of lives.

I'm sure that's not the answer you want to hear, as most people here want B&W solutions. I have not seen that. I have seen people that were beaten, starved, gang raped and video taped their crimes while held that way for a long time. In one case, the only way to prosecute them was to nab the one for child pornography posted on line where they arranged for more people to come and rape the child they held.

The rest all got off because the child could not testify in court. I have known this victim for twenty years now and their life is a living hell even with the best help that could be given. That life was stolen. The one who put the images on line will be out of prison soon, if not already. The victim and family are terrrified this individual or their pals might get at this person again.

Tell me what you think of all those men who are living free and walking the streets involved with them, who are likely doing the same thing today, and not going to be prosecutted. I realized these are extreme cases I am talking about, but I guarantee you, no rape victim sees rape as a mistake, like that judge in CA claimed the man that raped the three year old girl, just because she was there, so no big deal, ya know?

You want to rehabilitate that guy or the judge? Do you think the little girl will forget? Or do you want to make sure he never gets out?

Like I said, if this was Scandinavia with its social system, I'd have hopes. But not here. And there are too many wounded no one ever hears about. They are often not in the news. But there are people who have to clean up after all of this, and they and the victims never get a day in court, no one talks about their rights. I'm not the same person I was at one time, before I learned all this agony. There are a lot of blighted lives and it seems few people care, it's as if they don't exist, because they have no power.




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