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DeSwiss

(27,137 posts)
147. Not nearly enough.
Mon Apr 13, 2015, 06:51 PM
Apr 2015
- But then I also realize most people in this country are asleep (denial).

Harsh maybe, but true.
That's a strange question. TheCowsCameHome Apr 2015 #1
Bank on that much... HA Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel Apr 2015 #86
Hillary can stand questions and debate. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #2
Yes. She did great here: bvar22 Apr 2015 #61
Oh please! hrmjustin Apr 2015 #62
Oh Please WHAT? bvar22 Apr 2015 #66
When given a valid argument to argue with I will. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #67
OK. IN that video, HIllary said she would NOT "Raise the Cap" on FICA deductions bvar22 Apr 2015 #69
Where was the cap at? What level of income? hrmjustin Apr 2015 #70
Watch the video. bvar22 Apr 2015 #73
I think a good number is 250,000 dollars. Raise taxes on them and above. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #76
Oh please what? Smithryee Apr 2015 #81
Read below. hrmjustin Apr 2015 #85
Hillary is over-attacked. JaneyVee Apr 2015 #3
Some here seem to think that scrutinizing candidates is "disloyal" or "divisive". Tierra_y_Libertad Apr 2015 #4
+1 arcane1 Apr 2015 #10
Agree completely n/t MissDeeds Apr 2015 #13
+1 cui bono Apr 2015 #80
+ another Scuba Apr 2015 #107
+1 Eyerish Apr 2015 #118
+1 JEB Apr 2015 #122
+1 /nt RiverLover Apr 2015 #126
No. Her supporters just seem to be a bit hyper sensitive. Autumn Apr 2015 #5
I don't support HRC, but claiming her platform is "I have a vagina" is silly emulatorloo Apr 2015 #26
Did someone say that?? Autumn Apr 2015 #44
No tazkcmo Apr 2015 #46
Yes, but you knew that already. emulatorloo Apr 2015 #50
Robert Reich said no such thing. Autumn Apr 2015 #52
Even if she is not your dream candidate, it still hurts to shoot yourself in the foot world wide wally Apr 2015 #6
Hillary herself has NEVER suggested that just being a woman qualifies her to run for President. pnwmom Apr 2015 #7
Exactly. It's obvious that she will be the first woman President MineralMan Apr 2015 #12
Exactly Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2015 #71
She isn't going to be the first women President.. Smithryee Apr 2015 #83
My name's not Frank, MineralMan Apr 2015 #112
ha! Skinner banned that poster so OKNancy Apr 2015 #113
Thanks for letting me know. MineralMan Apr 2015 #114
bashing and criticism are two different things OKNancy Apr 2015 #8
And I have a problem with DUers who think progressive women only support her because of her gender. pnwmom Apr 2015 #14
agreed! OKNancy Apr 2015 #15
Yes, it is very, very insulting. MoonRiver Apr 2015 #18
I'd say, in some respects she's more qualified than most of the (R) men running at this point justiceischeap Apr 2015 #129
She does not like Republicans? bvar22 Apr 2015 #133
Yes Andy823 Apr 2015 #21
There's bashing, and there's honest disagreement irrationaly mislabeled as bashing. arcane1 Apr 2015 #9
there is bashing irrationally labelled as honest disagreement OKNancy Apr 2015 #33
Indeed! :) arcane1 Apr 2015 #36
....and there is Honest Disagreement irrationally labeled as "bashing". bvar22 Apr 2015 #145
There's a lot of bashing on DU. MoonRiver Apr 2015 #11
+1 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #32
+1 uponit7771 Apr 2015 #74
+ we can do it Apr 2015 #168
I feel that a certain element here uses the term 'bash' to divide up DU and they do it on purpose. Rex Apr 2015 #16
Perfectly said! arcane1 Apr 2015 #22
It is as if we are just supposed to ignore the obvious for the sake of their agenda. Rex Apr 2015 #24
LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #34
This message was self-deleted by its author Rex Apr 2015 #48
Maybe, yes, yes, Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #17
That's a great question. H2O Man Apr 2015 #19
The responses to H2O Man Apr 2015 #35
"Objective people are fully capable of telling the difference between the two." antigop Apr 2015 #54
Well, thank you! H2O Man Apr 2015 #151
No (nt) bigwillq Apr 2015 #20
No, the only Democrats doing any "bashing" are a very tiny minority. tritsofme Apr 2015 #23
Yet, a relatively small faction ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #37
Nnnnnnope. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #25
I don't think she is. I think supporters of candidates (myself included) have super thin ScreamingMeemie Apr 2015 #27
She's been a target, on the national level, for more than 20 years... SidDithers Apr 2015 #28
I feel that you stepped in horseshit when you suggested Clinton's genitals are her platform emulatorloo Apr 2015 #29
"Democrats" aren't bashing HRC ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #30
You say "progressives" (your quotes) have no home in the Democratic party? delrem Apr 2015 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #53
Not being a sailor, I'm not certain what you ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #77
Not odd at all ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #75
Sigh. nt delrem Apr 2015 #94
Yes ... sighhhh ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #99
look. I get it. You don't like progressives. I get it as hard as you push it. delrem Apr 2015 #100
No. I've just never seen a DU Styled progressive in the wild ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #110
Apparently, there are a lot of things you haven't seen. bvar22 Apr 2015 #134
See my post #131 ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #135
I have NEVER called you a "DU Styled Conservative". bvar22 Apr 2015 #138
3rd-way, and all the lovely variations thereof. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #139
AFter reading your posts in this thread, bvar22 Apr 2015 #146
Okay. Thanks for the advice ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #150
Did you get confused? bvar22 Apr 2015 #162
look 4 posts up. n/t 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #165
So the answer is NO. bvar22 Apr 2015 #169
But you have referred to me as ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #170
I don't believe I have ever refered to you as anything at all. bvar22 Apr 2015 #172
And I have never referred to YOU as anything, either ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #173
Did you mean to put Democrats in quotes? Rex Apr 2015 #56
Nope ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #78
K the OP did not so I was confuseded. Rex Apr 2015 #101
So by your definition, progressives are not welcome in the Dem Party? cui bono Apr 2015 #82
No, everyone from the left is welcome ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #91
"but, if I were, I was, I we would be talking about majority rule." PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #96
Okay ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #97
"just" has everything to do with many things PowerToThePeople Apr 2015 #103
Rails ... Off. 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #111
So then I'm gathering from your posts here that you don't think the Dem Party is or is supposed cui bono Apr 2015 #115
Well said Art_from_Ark Apr 2015 #125
I remember when the Democratic Party was progressive too Pooka Fey Apr 2015 #144
Progressives have no real political home? PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #120
It has occurred to me, perhaps, I should clarify my statement ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #131
This "DU Styled Progressive" (to use your words) lives HERE: bvar22 Apr 2015 #136
No, not long ago, a vote for Democrats ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #141
I never suggested that things were GREAT. bvar22 Apr 2015 #142
Do any of the points in my #131 post ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #152
Respond the the CHALLENGE I posted above, bvar22 Apr 2015 #160
Well said JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #155
Look at the responses to my post ... 1StrongBlackMan Apr 2015 #156
I noticed that JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #159
Many are madokie Apr 2015 #31
No, but some of the attacks are ridiculous... Adrahil Apr 2015 #38
Criticism is fine. Starry Messenger Apr 2015 #39
Some here on DU do bash her. napi21 Apr 2015 #40
But she is a corporate Dem. It's not "bashing" to say so. That is about her policy stances cui bono Apr 2015 #116
Not voting is the cowards way out. napi21 Apr 2015 #121
No, pretty much the opposite really. cui bono Apr 2015 #124
I have a poll from 2005 that will support you. bvar22 Apr 2015 #132
Thanks for that info, it represents what Thom has been talking about lately. cui bono Apr 2015 #143
She can take the heat workinclasszero Apr 2015 #41
You bet they are scared, right out of their tightie whities! leftofcool Apr 2015 #88
If you're referring to the some DUers rock Apr 2015 #43
Are you trying to say that if a DU member doesn't support 1%Hillary, bvar22 Apr 2015 #64
It doesn't matter what I am as I am not making any unjustified claims rock Apr 2015 #68
I expect it gwheezie Apr 2015 #45
How do you mean that question? When polled, Dems like Hillary. McCamy Taylor Apr 2015 #47
Well, DU members "bashing" Clinton are not "Democrats"... brooklynite Apr 2015 #49
Did you mean to put Democrats in quotes? Rex Apr 2015 #57
Yes, as Democrats are apparently defined in the OP brooklynite Apr 2015 #58
I C did not get that part of your post. Rex Apr 2015 #59
I don't have a clue. pangaia Apr 2015 #51
Pundits + message board liberals don't equal Democrats nt shebolleth Apr 2015 #55
Was Hillary "bashing" Obama in 2008 with the 3:00 a.m. phone call ad? Jim Lane Apr 2015 #60
Yes. tavernier Apr 2015 #63
No. LWolf Apr 2015 #65
+1 InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #72
How can real Democrats stand with a money candidate? It's disgusting. The rich are destroying us. L0oniX Apr 2015 #79
I am going to break this to you gently leftofcool Apr 2015 #89
Pffft what ever. L0oniX Apr 2015 #90
Only at DU, where fear and loathing masquerade as trenchant analysis... Hekate Apr 2015 #84
One member's criticism, bvar22 Apr 2015 #87
I think they are shamed by having to bow to the rich to win elections. It's a sell out. L0oniX Apr 2015 #92
I'm with you. bvar22 Apr 2015 #140
Good info ...thanks. L0oniX Apr 2015 #149
some may bash, but many others DonCoquixote Apr 2015 #93
Yes, but not undeservedly so. Chan790 Apr 2015 #95
+1 Scuba Apr 2015 #108
99% of the bashing I see is on DU. In the real world not so much. n/t Lil Missy Apr 2015 #98
She should be bashed a lot more, for her record and her agenda of war against the working class. Cheese Sandwich Apr 2015 #102
I think it's sexist dog shit of the worst kind to hint or claim that Hillary is running "just as a cali Apr 2015 #104
No, it's not. It's really, factually not. Chan790 Apr 2015 #109
YAY....HIllary is a woman!!!!! bvar22 Apr 2015 #161
No more so than Obama has been bashed by Democrats the last 6-7 years krawhitham Apr 2015 #105
I think we should be criticizing her as much as Obama has been criticized the last 7 years davidpdx Apr 2015 #106
I felt a shift today libodem Apr 2015 #117
No, not bashing, just keeping the conversation real. PrefersaPension Apr 2015 #119
Of COURSE Hilary is getting bashed. It's primary season. davsand Apr 2015 #123
Bashed, or called on her s-it ? Do you think the other side scrutinizes themselves ? orpupilofnature57 Apr 2015 #127
we Democrats due a very good of bashing our own... chillfactor Apr 2015 #128
I think it's bashing to say she's "just a woman" gollygee Apr 2015 #130
Gender has absolutely NO bearing on the ability to lead. bvar22 Apr 2015 #174
No - I think it's actually helpful to have differing points of view in the primary season. Yo_Mama Apr 2015 #137
Not nearly enough. DeSwiss Apr 2015 #147
The general population is kept in a state of political ignorance by design. Maedhros Apr 2015 #154
Mostly by Libertarians and a few young idealists who actually expect bettyellen Apr 2015 #148
In addition to vision, I want leadership. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #153
yeah Hillary is really being bashed by her party... Takket Apr 2015 #157
After the last 2 days, I'm changing my vote to Yes, Fuck Yes....nt SidDithers Apr 2015 #158
I don't believe you get a vote , Sid. bvar22 Apr 2015 #163
The vote was on the question "Is Hillary being bashed by Democrats?"... SidDithers Apr 2015 #166
I have very little concern for comments from the PeaNut Gallery... bvar22 Apr 2015 #167
Some legitimate criticisms based on analysis, LanternWaste Apr 2015 #164
No fadedrose Apr 2015 #171
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