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In reply to the discussion: Do you feel that Hillary is being bashed by Democrats?? [View all]JDPriestly
(57,936 posts)153. In addition to vision, I want leadership.
Think about this.
In this video, Hillary Clinton stated that Bush was ruining the economy by fighting the War in Iraq while lowering taxes.
She was a freshman senator from the influential state of New York at the time. Of course, we all know that she backed the war. That's bad enough. She did not bother to do her own research or listen to the research of the Code Pink group before voting.
But there is another problem. Acknowledging as she did in the video that Bush was endangering our economy with his policies, did Hillary organize other Democratic senators to try to bargain with Bush and tell him that if he wanted the war, he had to raise the taxes to pay for it? Hillary demonstrated no leadership ability in that situation.
No. She did not.
Now think about Elizabeth Warren. A first-term senator. She came to Congress with a mission -- to help improve our economy by getting at least a slightly better order and better regulation of our financial sector, especially the "too big to fail" banks. She immediately began to organize other people in Congress behind her ideas. She was a fighter but flexible enough to get the votes. We got a consumer bureau among other changes. She didn't do it alone. She worked well with others. Elizabeth Warren proved herself to be a leader.
Of course, as Hillary predicted, George Bush's policies did serious harm to our economy. Hillary cannot help the fact that she did not lead in that situation and probably is not a good leader. It does not make her a bad person. I'm not a leader either. Most of us aren't.
But Elizabeth Warren is a natural born leader. In addition she is on the right side on many issues, on the side of the American people. The contest is not about one possible candidate being bad and the other good. It is about which of them is the strong leader. Elizabeth Warren, in my view, has proved that she is the strong leader. She is likable, strong, kind, and all said, just a leader. That's why I support her for president. And that is why I ignore all the statements that she won't run, that she doesn't want to run, etc. I don't think she should be allowed to make that choice. The nation needs her because she is a leader, is smart and has her heart in the right place. She represents American values. She is the candidate we should be supporting. She is the leader.
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OK. IN that video, HIllary said she would NOT "Raise the Cap" on FICA deductions
bvar22
Apr 2015
#69
Some here seem to think that scrutinizing candidates is "disloyal" or "divisive".
Tierra_y_Libertad
Apr 2015
#4
I don't support HRC, but claiming her platform is "I have a vagina" is silly
emulatorloo
Apr 2015
#26
Even if she is not your dream candidate, it still hurts to shoot yourself in the foot
world wide wally
Apr 2015
#6
Hillary herself has NEVER suggested that just being a woman qualifies her to run for President.
pnwmom
Apr 2015
#7
And I have a problem with DUers who think progressive women only support her because of her gender.
pnwmom
Apr 2015
#14
I'd say, in some respects she's more qualified than most of the (R) men running at this point
justiceischeap
Apr 2015
#129
There's bashing, and there's honest disagreement irrationaly mislabeled as bashing.
arcane1
Apr 2015
#9
I feel that a certain element here uses the term 'bash' to divide up DU and they do it on purpose.
Rex
Apr 2015
#16
It is as if we are just supposed to ignore the obvious for the sake of their agenda.
Rex
Apr 2015
#24
"Objective people are fully capable of telling the difference between the two."
antigop
Apr 2015
#54
I don't think she is. I think supporters of candidates (myself included) have super thin
ScreamingMeemie
Apr 2015
#27
I feel that you stepped in horseshit when you suggested Clinton's genitals are her platform
emulatorloo
Apr 2015
#29
So then I'm gathering from your posts here that you don't think the Dem Party is or is supposed
cui bono
Apr 2015
#115
But she is a corporate Dem. It's not "bashing" to say so. That is about her policy stances
cui bono
Apr 2015
#116
How can real Democrats stand with a money candidate? It's disgusting. The rich are destroying us.
L0oniX
Apr 2015
#79
I think they are shamed by having to bow to the rich to win elections. It's a sell out.
L0oniX
Apr 2015
#92
She should be bashed a lot more, for her record and her agenda of war against the working class.
Cheese Sandwich
Apr 2015
#102
I think it's sexist dog shit of the worst kind to hint or claim that Hillary is running "just as a
cali
Apr 2015
#104
I think we should be criticizing her as much as Obama has been criticized the last 7 years
davidpdx
Apr 2015
#106
Bashed, or called on her s-it ? Do you think the other side scrutinizes themselves ?
orpupilofnature57
Apr 2015
#127