The establishment hates the left (Reply #11)

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RobertEarl (13,685 posts)

11. The establishment hates the left

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Because the left makes them feel uncomfortable.

The establishment is conservative... they don't want change. Obama crammed it down their throats because bush was such a damned killer. People reacted and got off their sorry asses and voted, in 2008, for change. Then they went back to sleep. H> is like a sleeping pill so don't expect people to wake up and vote. Besides that, the election at this stage is BORING! So the petty squabbles are entertainment for those whose lives are BORING!

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147 replies	Author	Time	Post
Message to the Left-Wing [View all]	H2O Man	Apr 2015	OP
Thanks for the thoughtful OP, but I'm confused about this piece	99th_Monkey	Apr 2015	#1
The Democratic Left	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#3
OK. Thanks for that clarification. nt	99th_Monkey	Apr 2015	#7
Thank you.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#14
agree	G_j	Apr 2015	#41
The Moral Monday	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#44
Just want to say that I agree with you regarding the Left building a power base within the Party.	sabrina 1	Apr 2015	#76
Thank you!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#78
'Sticks and stones' but names, well I've been called just about everything since I first began	sabrina 1	Apr 2015	#82
If you & yours	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#85
Lol! I don't know where this saying came from, but I think it was Dionne 'there is nothing so	sabrina 1	Apr 2015	#90
Had it been my	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#94
Lol, that cracked me up.	sabrina 1	Apr 2015	#96
Oh, it was strange.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#98
All I can say is you are lucky he wasn't the 'shoot first ask questions later' type.	sabrina 1	Apr 2015	#100
I sent you a PM. nt	msanthrope	Apr 2015	#125
+1. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#19
The establishment hates the left	RobertEarl	Apr 2015	#11
I have to say	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#16
That was a nice thing to say	RobertEarl	Apr 2015	#108
True, that.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#109
You know,	Sherman A1	Apr 2015	#2
That is true.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#5
How dare you bring a reasoned and rational analysis to DU:GD?!	JaneyVee	Apr 2015	#4
Thanks!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#8
The reasoned??	boston bean	Apr 2015	#9
The other side isn't organized. It's more of a shotgun sorta deal.	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Apr 2015	#126
H20Man, this passage confuses me:	tblue37	Apr 2015	#6
Sure -- glad to try	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#12
Thanks. nt	tblue37	Apr 2015	#24
Thank you, tblue37 !	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#25
I will suggest that the tensions and reality of our current situation	mmonk	Apr 2015	#10
As I was writing	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#13
Are you trying to make me blush online?	mmonk	Apr 2015	#15
Ha!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#17
And me of you, of course.	mmonk	Apr 2015	#18
In this post and the one following it you both express my beliefs but what you are suggesting takes	jwirr	Apr 2015	#49
I'm with you completely. I'm fighting on a lower level at the time.	mmonk	Apr 2015	#56
Thank you. I am located in MN and on the local level we are still pretty union and FDR Dems. So	jwirr	Apr 2015	#60
I'm both. Join the club.	mmonk	Apr 2015	#92
Nothing really matters. The 1% have already won. You all just don't know it yet or won't believe it.	L0oniX	Apr 2015	#20
Oh, I believe it. I have no doubt that a 1% candidate will win the Presidency, but they will do it	liberal_at_heart	Apr 2015	#21
Agree & respectfully disagree.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#23
I do too"....	AuntPatsy	Apr 2015	#29
Thanks, AuntPatsy!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#58
from your lips to god's ears. i'm increasingly discouraged; i hope you're right.	ND-Dem	Apr 2015	#35
Thank you.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#62
yep, never throw down your weapon and run	heaven05	Apr 2015	#43
If 6 were 9 ....	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#22
+1	mmonk	Apr 2015	#30
+100. Speaking for myself alone, anything but vapid cheerleaderism seems often met	ND-Dem	Apr 2015	#34
I couldn't agree with this more.	RoccoR5955	Apr 2015	#50
In 2008, I had to remind myself, off and on, that candidates are not nevessarily a reflection of	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	Apr 2015	#127
+ 1000 !!!	orpupilofnature57	Apr 2015	#26
Nice OP!	sadoldgirl	Apr 2015	#27
I think this ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#28
That sounds too rational, and it does not	sadoldgirl	Apr 2015	#31
It's hard.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#40
Indeed.....the Left needs to show up at the meetings. nt	msanthrope	Apr 2015	#33
Right.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#45
I'm sure that you	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#37
Yes I do ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#39
Great points.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#42
Absolutely! ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#53
I did a lot of volunteer work when my kids were still minors, mostly with the schools	Fumesucker	Apr 2015	#61
My experience differs ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#64
It's a class thing..	Fumesucker	Apr 2015	#65
You're kidding right? ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#73
Americans like to think they are egalitarian when they are almost anything but that	Fumesucker	Apr 2015	#84
Is it possible that ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#103
The point I'm making is that the thoughts and concerns of the lower class were never even heard...	Fumesucker	Apr 2015	#111
This ..	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#117
Are you incapable of grasping sarcasm?	Fumesucker	Apr 2015	#122
my experience mirrors yours. the schmoozers put in a minimal amount of actual work &	ND-Dem	Apr 2015	#119
And that is what many on the Left are doing now, across the country. It is exciting actually	sabrina 1	Apr 2015	#91
KR	ND-Dem	Apr 2015	#32
I have no doubt "the Left" knows how to do grassroots organizing ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#47
Based on your own definition of what "the left" is as well, & your own perceptions.	ND-Dem	Apr 2015	#115
What? Well ... okay. n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#118
With all due respect, you are not "the Left". You said in a post to me days ago that the left	cui bono	Apr 2015	#123
No. I'm pretty certain I said "progressives ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#131
Okay, sorry for the delay. As I mentioned, back at work. Also recovering from strep throat!	cui bono	Apr 2015	#141
Think you ... but you do not get to define whatis or is not left "enough."	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#142
Thanks.	cui bono	Apr 2015	#143
HRC has defined nothing ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#145
And she is not a liberal nor a progressive based on the actions of other Dems in history. n/t	cui bono	Apr 2015	#146
Not true ...	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#147
No response to my response (#131)? n/t	1StrongBlackMan	Apr 2015	#139
I will... I'm back at work and just peeking in on tiny breaks... n/t	cui bono	Apr 2015	#140
Thanks!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#52
There's also the whole "diversity of tactics" issue	daredtowork	Apr 2015	#102
K&R	DeSwiss	Apr 2015	#36
Thanks!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#68
Thanks. Politics is one vote, one voter at a time.	JDPriestly	Apr 2015	#38
Right!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#69
Let me add a little view from the streets	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2015	#46
Thank you.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#70
You welcome, I am hitting my head against the wall though	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2015	#71
In all fairness to your observation....I see things a bit differently	KoKo	Apr 2015	#48
Thank you!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#72
How do YOU feel about the Issues I posted as you are a Dem/Dem?	KoKo	Apr 2015	#89
As long as you are leaving out the evisceration of social services	daredtowork	Apr 2015	#106
+100	ND-Dem	Apr 2015	#120
These are my thoughts as well H2O Man.	lovemydog	Apr 2015	#51
Great post! Thanks!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#75
Artists & musicians provide healing balm for our souls.	lovemydog	Apr 2015	#77
Have a great time!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#79
Thanks H2O Man!	lovemydog	Apr 2015	#80
You are absolutely right about it being a life long task. The Labor Movement did not happen	liberal_at_heart	Apr 2015	#86
Yes, suffering economically and all the setbacks are extremely painful.	lovemydog	Apr 2015	#112
One of my first thoughts after Citozens United was passed in the SC, the GOP probably thought	Thinkingabout	Apr 2015	#54
Yeah.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#81
Coalition building is a two-way street, and I mostly see	PBass	Apr 2015	#55
I concur.	longship	Apr 2015	#57
Interesting.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#83
I have to admit, I am pretty much done with the whole thing. I am no longer a Democrat. That does	liberal_at_heart	Apr 2015	#99
I respect that.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#101
See, why the insults? I just don't get it. Did the Labor Movement want unicorns and rainbows?	liberal_at_heart	Apr 2015	#107
Define "far left". I hear this phrase used so often here; it seems to me a way of dismissing	ND-Dem	Apr 2015	#121
Your mindset is that 'all the world is like a boxing match' so of course you see and thrive on	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2015	#59
I think that you	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#67
And there is the dismissive stuff with no mention of the points made.	Bluenorthwest	Apr 2015	#95
It's a curious sport.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#105
You will never start off by yourself to build up enough support to overturn gerrymandering	Rex	Apr 2015	#63
Gerrymandering of Congressional Districts State by State is a Huge Problem	KoKo	Apr 2015	#74
Huge problem.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#88
The difference between yesterday and today? Corporate run government.	whereisjustice	Apr 2015	#66
You are absolutely right!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#97
You are welcome and thank you for the thought provoking essay.	whereisjustice	Apr 2015	#104
We live in a county of very ignorant people. A country where people will not vote.	YOHABLO	Apr 2015	#87
Yes, you are right,	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#93
The last thing I want to do is venture into politics in real life, I've had more than enough of that	Fumesucker	Apr 2015	#114
And people that do vote but against their own interests due to unchallenged propaganda.	mmonk	Apr 2015	#110
Wonderful articulate OP, thank you.	Jefferson23	Apr 2015	#113
Thank you.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#128
As always	burrowowl	Apr 2015	#116
Thank you!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#129
I live in a heavily Democratic state legislative district	eridani	Apr 2015	#124
Right.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#130
I'm getting tired of telling you how much I like your mind.	malthaussen	Apr 2015	#132
Talk about timing!	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#133
I know that attitude well.	malthaussen	Apr 2015	#138
"Divine authority behind govt"?? Scalia describes kings.	Beartracks	Apr 2015	#134
Right.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#135
Great quote from Malcolm X 100%	JonLP24	Apr 2015	#136
Right.	H2O Man	Apr 2015	#137
If I may, for multiple reasons	nadinbrzezinski	Apr 2015	#144

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