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Stevepol

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Tue Apr 21, 2015, 07:53 AM Apr 2015

The 2014 US Elections Manipulated? [View all]

Last edited Tue Apr 21, 2015, 05:50 PM - Edit history (1)

Kathy Dopp has completed a statistical analysis of the 2014 mid-term elections and these are some of her findings:

"The probability that disparities between predicted and reported 2014 election gubernatorial and senatorial vote margins were caused by random sampling error is virtually zero. Larger than average magnitude disparities are exhibited primarily in states conducting no or low-quality post-election audits. An analysis of Maryland's election data by ballot type statistically confirms vote miscount as an explanation for its unexpected outcome."

The states that showed a disparity between the predicted results and the actual results for both gubernatorial and senatorial contests which were sufficient to alter election outcomes were: MD, IL, FL, & KS. These four states all used "inauditable voting systems or failed to conduct post-election audits." In NV, TN, NY, OH, and SD, the post-election disparities were "large but smaller than winning margins."

Living in KS, I can attest to the fact that many people here were very surprised at the final voting results.

Dopp's study (a pdf) can perhaps be accessed through the following, although I'm not quite sure how this is done:

SSRN-id2596336.pdf (There is also a longer version at: http://sssrn.com/abstract=2524093)

Earlier I posted Kathy's email and a responder suggested I might want to delete her email address because it could lead to spam sent her way. I have deleted it, and I hope she didn't receive any unwanted attention from the well-funded spammers who oppose free and fair elections, meaning "VERIFIABLE" and preferably always "audited" elections, when opti-scans are used and there's paper to use to cross check.

I speak for myself when I say I hope people do not give up on the dream of having verifiable elections once again in the US, but I suspect that Kathy agrees with me as do many at the DU.

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Because pen&paper is sooo inconvenient. DetlefK Apr 2015 #1
There's also an instant gratification component to our culture. CrispyQ Apr 2015 #25
Just an example: voting in Germany DetlefK Apr 2015 #36
One word 80 million to 320 million yeoman6987 Apr 2015 #58
Not so. ahlnord Apr 2015 #67
exactly. n/t FourScore Apr 2015 #70
That is the excuse that they always use RoccoR5955 Apr 2015 #77
Holy Crap billhicks76 Apr 2015 #65
no precinct inthe US with more than 1800 voters elehhhhna Apr 2015 #62
Boston used pencil and paper in 2004, but machines counted. merrily Apr 2015 #32
We don't use pens- Number 2 pencils are what is provided in my town. PotatoChip Apr 2015 #34
This is how Democratic candidates get millions more votes then repukes libtodeath Apr 2015 #2
Md is finally getting rid of the machines hootinholler Apr 2015 #3
Are we getting rid of the machines? elleng Apr 2015 #51
We are! hootinholler Apr 2015 #55
GREAT, hoot! elleng Apr 2015 #57
I'm glad to hear that we're getting rid of those damn things deutsey Apr 2015 #79
We know this is happening newfie11 Apr 2015 #4
and the Dems won't fight at all. bbgrunt Apr 2015 #6
In fact they and their backers will deny it ever happened. Autumn Apr 2015 #28
the notion that the machines were going to save money and certainot Apr 2015 #37
the original study Phil1934 Apr 2015 #5
Amazing how that has never been investigated malaise Apr 2015 #9
Republicans cheat. It is one of the qualities of one without ethics. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #7
For whatever reason titaniumsalute Apr 2015 #8
I was surprised when Brownback "won". -none Apr 2015 #10
It seems mystifying to me Proud Liberal Dem Apr 2015 #60
It is obvious that laws are for the other person. -none Apr 2015 #82
Email Link kracer20 Apr 2015 #11
Name a political person who believes the machines were hacked... brooklynite Apr 2015 #12
Howard Dean HelenWheels Apr 2015 #24
Name an election Dean was in that was affected by vote hacking... brooklynite Apr 2015 #45
Their reason is the same as those Pols who will not question the events leading to 9/11. Ford_Prefect Apr 2015 #49
So you're saying that NOT ONE SINGLE ELECTED OFFICIAL OR CANDIDATE is courageous enough? brooklynite Apr 2015 #80
+1 deutsey Apr 2015 #81
Yes, I was quite impressed with that Bayesian analysis Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #31
I'm 99.999778% sure I remember him tritsofme Apr 2015 #47
For once, we semi-agree. See my reply 27, posted before I started reading the thread. merrily Apr 2015 #35
Republicans make the voting machines. So you should expect this. nt mariawr Apr 2015 #13
bibi learned from the GOP Takket Apr 2015 #14
Off-year elections and down-ticket races RufusTFirefly Apr 2015 #15
This is exactly how the rethugs will try to take the Presidency in 2016. Otherwise, they don't have kairos12 Apr 2015 #16
Unusual voting patterns in larger districts Hannahcares Apr 2015 #17
My spidey sense already told me 2014 was a very dirty election Botany Apr 2015 #18
I don't believe Walker won either. GoneFishin Apr 2015 #38
In the recall election the voting in both Madison and Milwuakee was so heavy ... Botany Apr 2015 #83
Basic issue with the verbiage here. The 'US' does not hold elections, the States do. Some States Bluenorthwest Apr 2015 #19
Inauditable Voting Systems DallasNE Apr 2015 #20
Exactly. Nobody would tolerate ATMs that move $$$ around mysteriously... Jerry442 Apr 2015 #59
Here is a direct link to the study via Google Scholar davidpdx Apr 2015 #21
AS OLe Comrade Stalin use to say,,,,, Cryptoad Apr 2015 #22
Post removed Post removed Apr 2015 #23
Illinois? The senatorial and gubernatorial races went exactly as predicted and polled. ieoeja Apr 2015 #26
I saw that too. WI was a place her re-examination showed strange things + isn't mentioned at all HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #39
Agreed. Gidney N Cloyd Apr 2015 #41
Rec for visibility. Democrats in Congress had a real chance to do something about elections between merrily Apr 2015 #27
Some of them cannot openly discuss it because to do so would invite further scrutiny of a broken Ford_Prefect Apr 2015 #63
Yes, I know the classic excuse is that Democrats don't want to undermine confidence in the vote. merrily Apr 2015 #68
Democrats AND Republicans have a very real stake in maintaining faith in the voting process. Ford_Prefect Apr 2015 #75
I never contended that messing with the vote has not happened. merrily Apr 2015 #84
I think turbinetree Apr 2015 #29
The United States is NOT the shining example of DEMOCRACY for the world Martin Eden Apr 2015 #30
Machines can't be audited. Punx Apr 2015 #33
Yes, that mathematician is Beth Clarkson sketchy Apr 2015 #40
Thank you for the link Punx Apr 2015 #43
You're welcome sketchy Apr 2015 #44
WA State has paper ballots and scanning machines. The apaer ballots are audited, but-- eridani Apr 2015 #46
Fresno County had a reputable elections supervisor, but then.. reddread Apr 2015 #42
Thank You, Kathy, for your good work and for keeping the candle lit and burning bright. Kip Humphrey Apr 2015 #48
Paper ballots, open view of counting. Dont call me Shirley Apr 2015 #50
"We work for the 1%. Trust us." blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #52
URL: http://graphics8.nytimes.com/images/2006/09/24/us/replvoting600.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #53
The Oligarchs, Corporations And Banks Own And Control The Politicians And Media That Own And Control Us cantbeserious Apr 2015 #72
ya think???? niyad Apr 2015 #54
14 Defining Characteristics of Fascism blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #56
Some would have you believe election prediction is like weather forecasting. Beartracks Apr 2015 #61
Yes, totally a science. Indydem Apr 2015 #74
Not a good link dead domain kimbutgar Apr 2015 #64
Has Ms. Dopp published her study in a peer-reviewed journal? LongTomH Apr 2015 #66
Proof positive..... czarjak Apr 2015 #69
NNNN cliffjames991 Apr 2015 #71
How to find out if votes are being flipped. captainarizona Apr 2015 #73
And if you don't get anything back because the average voter doesn't buy into a conspiracy theory? brooklynite Apr 2015 #78
HANDS ON VOTING!!! ellennelle Apr 2015 #76
Kris Kobach on Sedgwick County election lawsuit: Time is past, votes are sealed sketchy May 2015 #85
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