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RiverLover

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32. DURec for the great OP & some truly spectacular replies!!

Wed Apr 22, 2015, 08:43 PM

Apr 2015

Here's to the People, and to Liz for Standing Up for all of US!!!

Lets all hope the purchased hearts & minds in congress can be swayed, because once this deal goes through, the only way it can be altered is if ALL countries sign off on the changes.

So if it sucks, we are screwed. If it didn't suck, there would be no reason to hide it from public view. Also, the AFL-CIO would be for it, not fighting like mad against it.

AFL-CIO's Trumka: USTR Told Us Murder Isn't A Violation Under U.S. Trade Deals
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/04/22/fast-track-trade_n_7113412.html

U.S. Chamber, AFL-CIO clash at Senate hearing over Obama’s free trade push
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-politics/wp/2015/04/21/u-s-chamber-afl-cio-clash-at-senate-hearing-over-obamas-free-trade-push/

AFL-CIO head Richard Trumka explains why labor unions hate Obama’s trade deal
http://www.vox.com/2015/4/20/8445991/afl-cio-tpp-obama-trumka

The people FOR this deal are just showing their stripes.

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After Getting Called Out, Elizabeth Warren Accuses Obama Of Deliberately Hiding Trade Details - Huff [View all] WillyT Apr 2015 OP

Are you mad yet Liz? Autumn Apr 2015 #1

What Happened To The Old Obama billhicks76 Apr 2015 #13

There was no old Obama Autumn Apr 2015 #18

Yes BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #42

+1000 Angry Dragon Apr 2015 #108

Oh you mean the Obama that said Phlem Apr 2015 #53

I Saw Some Of It billhicks76 Apr 2015 #71

+1 BeanMusical Apr 2015 #72

You mean Candidate Obama? sabrina 1 Apr 2015 #74

I think he believed the GOP Joe Worker Apr 2015 #76

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #104

Not voting. THAT will show them! arcane1 Apr 2015 #106

I Always Vote billhicks76 Apr 2015 #110

***Elizabeth Warren is NOT telling the truth.***..article... ImaPolitico Apr 2015 #114

Funny You Should Say That... WillyT Apr 2015 #22

That would be priceless. I would love for that to happen Autumn Apr 2015 #26

Word !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #27

Oh... And Check Out The Front Page Of HuffPo While It's Still There (Top Story) WillyT Apr 2015 #34

. Autumn Apr 2015 #39

Ha! Oilwellian Apr 2015 #64

You mean this $tory? hedda_foil Apr 2015 #91

Boy did you get poo-pooed donnasgirl Apr 2015 #111

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #2

Maybe she's a Republican troll? MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #3

Well to be fair, she was a republican well into BreakfastClub Apr 2015 #12

Agreed! wolfie001 Apr 2015 #17

Bankruptcy law JonLP24 Apr 2015 #19

Read her book. She explains why she changed her mind. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #25

I'm much more interested in what politicians are DOING RIGHT NOW Maedhros Apr 2015 #33

Republicans love the TPP Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #68

I agree Skittles Apr 2015 #112

I was called a ratfucker today Oilwellian Apr 2015 #65

Only ratfuckers like us could possibly be to the left MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #66

Oh no he di'nt ! Roy Rolling Apr 2015 #4

Is the President trying to anger us? He knows we love Elizabeth. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #5

I wonder whether Obama has read the text of the proposed deal or JDPriestly Apr 2015 #28

THAT... Is My Greatest Fear... WillyT Apr 2015 #50

Bad sign. He's playing dumb again. I've seen this act before. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #85

I doubt that he's read the text. hedda_foil Apr 2015 #92

I thought Obama was smarter than to try to take on Senator Warren. 99Forever Apr 2015 #6

BAD move, calling out Senator Warren. hifiguy Apr 2015 #7

So Obama thinks Warren is wrong and jeb is right. Jakes Progress Apr 2015 #8

+1! RiverLover Apr 2015 #23

Excellent. Jakes Progress. JDPriestly Apr 2015 #30

Right on, Jakes! nt Plucketeer Apr 2015 #38

Why, why WHY.. YOU'RE LiberalElite Apr 2015 #89

Is there any way to legally conscript her into the Presidency? nt Zorra Apr 2015 #9

It's not hard to imagine her stepping up. NYC_SKP Apr 2015 #96

Unfortunately for us, she is too smart to want to run IMO LondonReign2 Apr 2015 #105

I believe her. 840high Apr 2015 #10

Obama has to get the trade deal done so he can get all the speaking gigs and book deals LiberalArkie Apr 2015 #11

There does seem to be a history of that- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #43

What an incredibly astute observation. NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #49

; 2banon Apr 2015 #55

Maybe I can ask the DU Admins ... NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #59

The Clintons were dead broke when leaving office MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #75

You never disappoint, Manny. NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #79

A personal attack from you, in lieu of facts. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #88

It wasn't an attack, Manny. NanceGreggs Apr 2015 #99

Doubling down on insults instead of answering a simple question. MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #109

Obama doesn't need any deals to get that. He will get those offers regardless. phleshdef Apr 2015 #121

Good for her! City Lights Apr 2015 #14

She's not the only politician that's calling for transparency on this ''deal''. YOHABLO Apr 2015 #15

She has wealth Joe Worker Apr 2015 #78

Political courage 90-percent Apr 2015 #16

+10 The great leaders for sure, in dangerous times- appalachiablue Apr 2015 #46

That would only be so if she did the needed treestar Apr 2015 #84

Reveal the Secrets? bvar22 Apr 2015 #101

Top Secret trade agreement means Top Secret beneficiaries. Octafish Apr 2015 #20

The tenor of this comment amazes me more than the substantive points. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #21

Great Analysis... WillyT Apr 2015 #24

Thanks Willy. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #29

Anytime... WillyT Apr 2015 #31

...! KoKo Apr 2015 #44

Bingo! Ding, Ding, Ding, Ding. 2banon Apr 2015 #56

DURec for the great OP & some truly spectacular replies!! RiverLover Apr 2015 #32

Thank You For Those... WillyT Apr 2015 #35

With pleasure! RiverLover Apr 2015 #36

r/k nationalize the fed Apr 2015 #37

Warren's got a GREAT MIND Plucketeer Apr 2015 #40

That does not mean she is correct 100% of the time Generic Brad Apr 2015 #118

No one's correct EVERY time Plucketeer Apr 2015 #119

I wasn't accusing. I was just observing. Generic Brad Apr 2015 #122

It's tough to be a representative democracy Bradical79 Apr 2015 #41

But by some miracle, Warren knows all those "secrets." Hoyt Apr 2015 #45

When you come up with solid evidence of a few instances Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #47

Yes indeed. She "miraculously" read the goddam document. Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #61

But it's secret. Not. She still didn't comprehend it or the reasons for it. Hoyt Apr 2015 #63

Is your reply a joke? Nevernose Apr 2015 #123

Then she's proposing spreading misinformation for personal gain. Hoyt Apr 2015 #124

Well, duh! nt ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #69

and she should reveal them treestar Apr 2015 #83

No fear in speaking her mind; what distinguishes Elizabeth from pretend progressives. She rocks! InAbLuEsTaTe Apr 2015 #48

Just to see if it is Just Us, I tried Googling TPP protest Japan - yep, protests in djean111 Apr 2015 #51

Thank You For That !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #52

http://jarkesypolitical.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/01/ObamaShhh4-e1358519562147.jpg blkmusclmachine Apr 2015 #54

k&r . . . n/t required annabanana Apr 2015 #57

kick midnight Apr 2015 #58

She is handling this masterfully. morningfog Apr 2015 #60

K & R AzDar Apr 2015 #62

I'm so glad she's on our side Oilwellian Apr 2015 #67

K&R liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #70

Kick and R. BeanMusical Apr 2015 #73

Oh that Sneaky Obama!! Suddenly, after THIS career, He's TURN COAT, a BETRAYER & now he's underahedgerow Apr 2015 #77

Um... What ??? WillyT Apr 2015 #80

Incredibility is often the best invisibility BigBearJohn Apr 2015 #81

you are woefully uninformed cali Apr 2015 #86

Doesn't she have a duty to whistle blow? treestar Apr 2015 #82

Damn that Warren why is she not an Uber hacker and can get those read only classified documents out TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #87

Because heroes do that. treestar Apr 2015 #93

If she wanted to how would she? If you had the access and inclination would you be able to do it? TheKentuckian Apr 2015 #120

I have no doubt, at all, that you would love for her to do that. stillwaiting Apr 2015 #90

What does it have to do with me or what I would like? treestar Apr 2015 #94

Fucking rubbish. And that IS the response this deserves. nt stillwaiting Apr 2015 #95

This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words Apr 2015 #103

Dear President Obama... SoapBox Apr 2015 #97

It's so refreshing to see a senator stand up to corporate interests. blackspade Apr 2015 #98

Why the U.S. Can't Be a Democracy And An Empire november3rd Apr 2015 #100

Message auto-removed Name removed Apr 2015 #102

Let us read it realFedUp Apr 2015 #107

I trust... ImaPolitico Apr 2015 #113

K&R...Thanks for posting, WillyT red dog 1 Apr 2015 #115

You Are Quite Welcome !!! WillyT Apr 2015 #116

K&R woo me with science Apr 2015 #117