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daredtowork

(3,732 posts)
54. There is prison slave labor in California
Thu Apr 23, 2015, 07:46 PM
Apr 2015

Prisoners have died fighting forest fires. One of the objections to reforming the prison labor system is the State needed these disposible people to fight forest fires.

However my big objection is the current welfare system essentially forces people into criminal actvity to survive: for some people that's more dignified than begging or prostitution. The reason is that welfare doesn't come close to covering shelter costs ($336/month for 3 out of 12 months) and attempting to cover costs of non-food basic necessities through casual labor like babysitting (if you report it) is sabotaged because its deducted from the rent money.

This is the example I regularly give because its fairly easy to convey the level of imposed absurdity. Due to the difficulty I had interacting with the office of the responsible County Supervisor Keith Carson (he also cut the line off at me at a public event where many politicians could have heard this J'ACCUSE.), I have begun to suspect the absurdity is deliberate. Poor people who are being squeezed out of the bottom of the workforce are "encouraged" into criminal modes of survival because social services is putting them in a situation that otherwise leads to homelessness. Once they start breaking the law, the police and court system just pick them off for induction into the prison-labor complex.

In prison people aren't unsightly beggars: they are subjected to State discipline and forced to work: in return they get food, shelter, minimal health care, and various privileges they can earn through good behavior. Out of sight, out of mind. Until we need them to fight a forest fire.

How kind and generous of you. SheilaT Apr 2015 #1
Kick Hekate Apr 2015 #2
Good for you, my dear WillyT... CaliforniaPeggy Apr 2015 #3
sweet spanone Apr 2015 #4
Kudos for that random act of kindness. Marie Marie Apr 2015 #5
Thank you for your kindness toward that young woman. snacker Apr 2015 #6
I love your kindness Lifelong Protester Apr 2015 #7
When I was in Colorado (July 2014 through March 2015)... Miles Archer Apr 2015 #8
Confrontational Parasites? daredtowork Apr 2015 #17
Well, you are assuming quite a bit, coonsidering that you don't know me or my situation. Miles Archer Apr 2015 #20
Great post (n/t) Luminous Animal Apr 2015 #35
Their bad behavior makes people like me vote for the most expedient means... Oktober Apr 2015 #37
I work with several homeless grants. upaloopa Apr 2015 #51
Berkeley has that grant daredtowork Apr 2015 #52
Some homeless people are assholes, just like any other group of people. nomorenomore08 Apr 2015 #59
People like you make all the bad stuff in the world bearable. BlueJazz Apr 2015 #9
Good - very good! 840high Apr 2015 #10
yesterday we fed a homeless vet nadinbrzezinski Apr 2015 #11
Yep... Helped Run A Soup Kitchen On The North Coast... Demand Always Outran Suppies... WillyT Apr 2015 #14
Other countries actually have real safety nets. America loves it when people lose it all. Spitfire of ATJ Apr 2015 #12
There's got to be some way to do more. xfundy Apr 2015 #13
I like your mom too Omaha Steve Apr 2015 #15
I had an unfortunate incident a couple of weeks ago when I handed a homeless man a few liberal_at_heart Apr 2015 #16
Try to file that one under mental illness daredtowork Apr 2015 #25
Earlier this week in Kentucky a long-time fugitive in poor health No Vested Interest Apr 2015 #33
"Three hots (meals) and a cot" in jail. maddiemom Apr 2015 #34
There is prison slave labor in California daredtowork Apr 2015 #54
I really don't know what to do sometimes. hunter Apr 2015 #18
That's a beautiful story, Willie! MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #19
LOL !!! - Yeah... We're All Gonna Be Challenged Soon... WillyT Apr 2015 #21
!!! MannyGoldstein Apr 2015 #23
Clever take. maddiemom Apr 2015 #36
Just imagine the good karma the TPP will generate! Enthusiast Apr 2015 #46
You made me cry Willy dflprincess Apr 2015 #22
Love it, WillyT! Glad you had the opportunity to make her day and that your ChisolmTrailDem Apr 2015 #24
You are a beautiful human being project_bluebook Apr 2015 #26
This made me cry. cherokeeprogressive Apr 2015 #27
Your example inspires me. Here's an idea: slumcamper Apr 2015 #28
Now that NJCher Apr 2015 #49
You are an everyday hero, WillyT MissDeeds Apr 2015 #29
You paint a vivid image, Willy LittleBlue Apr 2015 #30
Great group on FB mimi85 Apr 2015 #31
It cost me $20, but the look on her face safeinOhio Apr 2015 #32
I'm an atheist... awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #43
Bravo RecoveringJournalist Apr 2015 #38
You're not going to like... TeeYiYi Apr 2015 #39
i think the Lord will make an exception since questionseverything Apr 2015 #47
I agree NJCher Apr 2015 #50
I think you should delete yours BrotherIvan Apr 2015 #53
Good On You, Willy ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #40
Really, a car or a motorcycle wouldn't have helped more? randome Apr 2015 #41
Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww malaise Apr 2015 #42
You are one of my favorite DU'ers awoke_in_2003 Apr 2015 #44
Geez, WillyT. Enthusiast Apr 2015 #45
Yep proud patriot Apr 2015 #48
Hey You !!! - How's Hawaii ??? WillyT Apr 2015 #57
You better ! proud patriot May 2015 #62
Link please ??? WillyT May 2015 #63
Believe it or not The Jungle 1 Apr 2015 #55
beautiful n/t Blue_Tires Apr 2015 #56
What fun! Zorra Apr 2015 #58
and I should find folks that need food, clothing, and a safe place to sleep..... a kennedy Apr 2015 #60
Bravo! americannightmare Apr 2015 #61
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