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lovemydog

(11,833 posts)
116. Understood.
Wed Apr 29, 2015, 02:59 PM
Apr 2015

Thanks for the research. The police are responsible for this killing. I trust the investigation brings more facts to light. Regarding felony-murder, that's why I said in an earlier post that another possibility is a homicide charge based upon depraved indifference to human life.

If they were average citizens they could qualify under the kidnapping charge as a predicate felony since the victim was running away when they apprehended him, according to his family's lawyer. I know that's unlikely given how much leeway police have. At this point I don't believe their claim that they had a right to detain him. That he was not a fleeing felon and was not in their lawful custody. Not sure how that might play out but I'll be watching the victim's lawyer. I tend not to believe the police claims because in the past when they are responsible for killings they lie and cover up for each other.

how do you not see malice? notadmblnd Apr 2015 #1
The malice is where they broke his neck and then left him unstrapped to rough ride him. bravenak Apr 2015 #2
I'm thinking the neck fracture was hairline intially.... FarPoint Apr 2015 #4
So, you see no malice in that? bravenak Apr 2015 #7
I think the rough ride was passive-aggressive. FarPoint Apr 2015 #10
No intent to harm through a violent drive, handcuffed with a broken neck? bravenak Apr 2015 #11
They didn't realize he had a neck injury. FarPoint Apr 2015 #15
So they ignore his pleas for medical assistance, then rough ride him. bravenak Apr 2015 #21
You seem hung up on the malice intent....I realize that is your position. FarPoint Apr 2015 #24
Malice was the word used in your op. bravenak Apr 2015 #25
if you or I did this lapfog_1 Apr 2015 #77
I definitely see manslaughter as a minimum charge for most of the cops. FarPoint Apr 2015 #79
You think they didn't notice that he could not walk DURHAM D Apr 2015 #23
I think they missed the clues or symptoms of injury. FarPoint Apr 2015 #26
But they didn't take him for assessment because DURHAM D Apr 2015 #35
I wanted to discuss the events ... FarPoint Apr 2015 #82
Wow. Atman Apr 2015 #36
Slow down a minute. FarPoint Apr 2015 #60
No. Deliberate neglect and murder of an unarmed black man. Liberal_Stalwart71 Apr 2015 #118
It's felony-murder. lovemydog Apr 2015 #42
I'm not giving them anything..... FarPoint Apr 2015 #76
I understand the value of discussion. lovemydog Apr 2015 #92
What underlying felony were the police committing? n/t Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #103
Felony battery. n/t lovemydog Apr 2015 #107
Maryland does have an expanded list of predicate felonies, Ms. Toad Apr 2015 #111
Understood. lovemydog Apr 2015 #116
Yeah, boys will be boys, huh? tularetom Apr 2015 #80
Let's discuss it before we judge the entire scenerio. FarPoint Apr 2015 #99
One clue would have ann--- Apr 2015 #32
Passive aggressive? Erich Bloodaxe BSN Apr 2015 #47
Passive aggressive is when I leave my wife's coffee mug unwashed in the sink Recursion Apr 2015 #96
a freak accident? try getting knocked off your bike onto pavement and let 4 men crush you down & Sunlei Apr 2015 #56
I saw no video or discussion regarding the take down off bike. FarPoint Apr 2015 #61
yes, your police are such gentle souls,they never knock anyone to pavement and pile on. Sunlei Apr 2015 #63
I didn't see it only read what you shared regarding the initial take down. FarPoint Apr 2015 #67
Good God, really? TransitJohn Apr 2015 #109
+1 Jesus Malverde Apr 2015 #54
85% severed spinal cord newfie11 Apr 2015 #3
I don't think he was beaten by a cop... FarPoint Apr 2015 #6
He had no control of his legs newfie11 Apr 2015 #18
The rough ride was deliberate JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #45
That's educational information. FarPoint Apr 2015 #62
Don't care - I think the same JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #64
Don't treat others like that please. FarPoint Apr 2015 #69
Concluding that 2+2=7, lacking any firm evidence, is not open discussion. LanternWaste Apr 2015 #75
Don't tell me what to do JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #90
Do you like being bolsterous, a bully? FarPoint Apr 2015 #115
You degrade yourself... FarPoint Apr 2015 #83
no I didnt JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #89
Doesn't matter what they were doing. It was wrong, PERIOD! hobbit709 Apr 2015 #5
Yes.... FarPoint Apr 2015 #8
No intentional harm? Then why do it? enough Apr 2015 #9
I believe the "rough ride" practice will be history now. FarPoint Apr 2015 #12
And obviously not done with malicious intent, right? Jackpine Radical Apr 2015 #29
It is also, by its very nature, malicious. n/t arcane1 Apr 2015 #81
That's not how it works. yardwork Apr 2015 #102
You dont see malice? Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #13
Neglect and poor judgement.... FarPoint Apr 2015 #19
Someone screams like that and you keep dragging them in cuffs to a van Warren DeMontague Apr 2015 #20
I flipped onto one of the Faux channels this morning and actually heard someone Vinca Apr 2015 #14
"Cowboying Around Hmmm.." It's all good fun right? From Movie Death Proof .... Katashi_itto Apr 2015 #16
"No intentional harm but always dangerous for obvious reasons" alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #17
I'm throwing this OP post out here to get feedback... FarPoint Apr 2015 #22
You're Speculating Wildly, Though ProfessorGAC Apr 2015 #30
Disgusting alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #66
No need for the attitude. FarPoint Apr 2015 #72
Your behavior is transparent and reprehensible alcibiades_mystery Apr 2015 #74
I'm discussing the injury event. FarPoint Apr 2015 #78
You keep talking about what you don't see. So what is it, exactly, that you do see? Brickbat Apr 2015 #27
???????? FarPoint Apr 2015 #34
Oh, I totally understand! I'm just interested in what you DO see, after all you said you DON'T see: Brickbat Apr 2015 #40
Cowboying? No, more like an evil fictional sheriff imposing street justice HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #28
I agree with you there. FarPoint Apr 2015 #31
The bike cops who did the take down, the paddy-wagon drivers may be done HereSince1628 Apr 2015 #43
I am puking reading the last sentence of the OP. boston bean Apr 2015 #33
It was the "rough ride"... FarPoint Apr 2015 #38
How is a rough ride not malicious or done without intent of malice? boston bean Apr 2015 #41
Your over analyzing my OP. FarPoint Apr 2015 #73
"internally decapitated" ? NM_Birder Apr 2015 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Recursion Apr 2015 #95
They were negligent JustAnotherGen Apr 2015 #37
I see nothing but malicious intent CBGLuthier Apr 2015 #39
you can see the neck position of the man, & the extension of one leg as police drag him to the van. Sunlei Apr 2015 #44
Punishing someone because you had to chase them would certainly count as 'malicious'. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #46
Its called a "Nickle Ride" Stinky The Clown Apr 2015 #48
It's very uncomfortable to accept that these police Euphoria Apr 2015 #49
Horseshit. 99Forever Apr 2015 #50
My intention with the post was to engage in discussion. FarPoint Apr 2015 #65
Wrongo. 99Forever Apr 2015 #68
Sorry you precieve me as defending... FarPoint Apr 2015 #71
I've read all your posts in this thread. lovemydog Apr 2015 #51
Interesting... BklnDem75 Apr 2015 #52
Where is the Unrec button? FSogol Apr 2015 #53
Gone, sadly. n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2015 #55
You don't see malice. backscatter712 Apr 2015 #57
Just stop it... FarPoint Apr 2015 #85
No malice? gollygee Apr 2015 #59
callous disregard to another person's pain and suffering is malicious. nt La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2015 #70
Okay... FarPoint Apr 2015 #84
how is what you describe not malicious ? JI7 Apr 2015 #86
I think it was for 2 reasons: Calista241 Apr 2015 #91
He went through a lot of pain before he died Catherine Vincent Apr 2015 #87
Absolutely.... FarPoint Apr 2015 #88
Fantastic A-Schwarzenegger Apr 2015 #93
You do realize that was a fucking human being you are discussing so callously in your OP Number23 Apr 2015 #94
It is a clinical speculation....on that the injury event. FarPoint Apr 2015 #97
They handcuffed him and put him in the back of the car unrestrained gollygee Apr 2015 #98
It's been exposed as a rough ride had ocurred. FarPoint Apr 2015 #100
Oh please, why do you think "it will be misery" gollygee Apr 2015 #101
Since Baltimore PD has paid for other cases like this causing paralysis and death csziggy Apr 2015 #104
I agree it was malicious but I don't think a charge of intentional murder will ever be made. randome Apr 2015 #106
No Baltimore cop has had to pay a price for killing before csziggy Apr 2015 #108
I have a friend who is an Ex-Baltimore cop Tom Rinaldo Apr 2015 #105
and intentionally hurting someone is not malicious? La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2015 #110
Did I say anything to indicate it isn't malicious? Tom Rinaldo Apr 2015 #112
I just reread the OP and see that it thought malice was not involved. Tom Rinaldo Apr 2015 #113
yeah. sorry, i thought you agreed with OP about lack of malice. my bad La Lioness Priyanka Apr 2015 #114
Intentionally hurting another person is malice/malicious by the very definition of the word. herding cats Apr 2015 #117
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