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XemaSab

(60,212 posts)
301. At the very least
Tue May 8, 2012, 08:25 PM
May 2012

there's something missing here.

I kinda-sorta got the whole comparison between keeping black people ignorant during slavery and keeping black people ignorant in modern sub-par schools, but the article in the OP is not doing a very good job of representing the real tenor of the essay. This makes me wonder what else is being misrepresented.

Sorry, but I think that is an comparison that is a bit over the top MadHound May 2012 #1
you're not a minority, mzteris May 2012 #5
Does it matter? MadHound May 2012 #7
No they're just being DELIBERATELY given an education which... TheMadMonk May 2012 #37
I agree mbuch64 May 2012 #43
And provides slave labor for many corporations who use prison labor duhneece May 2012 #144
Not just imprisonment but loss of most American "Rights" such as voting.. Bandit May 2012 #187
Institutionalized racism. mzteris May 2012 #286
So you think that the white teachers in those schools are complicit XemaSab May 2012 #51
Not to mention that schools in majority black, low-income areas are just as likely to have black HiPointDem May 2012 #61
+1. The % of minority teachers in NYC has declined precipitously and steadily since Bloomberg. Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #117
I think it's probably more about class than race per se, Crunchy Frog May 2012 #76
Deliberately? Man those teachers must be monsters huh? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #55
Not willfully so. But a significant proportion of them are so RESENTFUL of being... TheMadMonk May 2012 #75
"*sent* to teach"? by who, may i ask? HiPointDem May 2012 #119
You need to know something whathehell May 2012 #191
thanks for the info. the picture he painted did seem a little cardboardy... HiPointDem May 2012 #236
You're welcome! whathehell May 2012 #274
Yes we do, and no I am not. And yes our own institutional treatment... TheMadMonk May 2012 #307
Right.. whathehell May 2012 #309
Oh bullshit. How insulting. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #138
Teachers are the modern day slave-owners 4th law of robotics May 2012 #163
Happy Teacher Appreciation Week to us proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #172
Cheers to you. bayareamike May 2012 #302
YOU chose. How many are where they are because it's the only place... TheMadMonk May 2012 #318
A significant proportion of white teachers are resentful of their black classes 4th law of robotics May 2012 #162
How do you know this?....Is this the way it is in your country with Aboriginals? whathehell May 2012 #189
My sister has a Master's degree Aerows May 2012 #362
Correct...Some here appear "at the ready" for apoplectic rage. whathehell May 2012 #179
Yeah Aerows May 2012 #363
Kettled? there's no kettling. economics is all it takes to segregate people by income. HiPointDem May 2012 #56
But "Swamp People" are a fucking hoot a minute. Right? TheMadMonk May 2012 #78
kettling means to keep people within a certain area, as in kettling people during protests. HiPointDem May 2012 #81
No it isn't 1950 anymore, it's worse. A Simple Game May 2012 #147
You may think i said racial discrimination has disappeared, but i didn't. HiPointDem May 2012 #239
No I don't think you said that. In fact I pretty much agree with you 100%. A Simple Game May 2012 #358
Don't you have some similar issues to attend to whathehell May 2012 #182
The girl sounds like she has some racist demons... TedBronson May 2012 #60
And maybe a few of them are teachers or administrators at her school. n/t pnwmom May 2012 #93
Uh huh... TedBronson May 2012 #133
No, the adults who are striking back at her for writing her essay don't deserve pnwmom May 2012 #227
This might have been plausible IF LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #271
Again... TedBronson May 2012 #282
exactly. mzteris May 2012 #289
yeah, and when glenn beck had her on his show he said they even sent in the teachers' union HiPointDem May 2012 #323
Lawsuits against school districts- especially poor ones- LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #327
I've looked all over the internet for some follow-up to this story. I can't find any. It begins HiPointDem May 2012 #328
In the apology she got LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #330
See, I didn't see that *she* got any apology. All I saw was an administrator saying something HiPointDem May 2012 #332
From the local news: LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #333
"an apology for what she is going through." that's the equivalent of "I'm sorry you were offended" HiPointDem May 2012 #334
None of that merits douting the veracity of their story, HB. joshcryer May 2012 #349
How many school related issues don't make it to the news? joshcryer May 2012 #352
How do you know it's not a racial issue? mzteris May 2012 #288
Especially the ones who were sent there against their will proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #142
Now teachers are "racist demons"? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #175
I read the whole article in the OP and never saw the words "racist demons." pnwmom May 2012 #230
Comment #60: The girl sounds like she has some racist demons... 4th law of robotics May 2012 #232
If they bullied and harassed her because they didn't like her essay pnwmom May 2012 #243
Are you still confused as to where I got that phrase? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #246
Some of them ARE. mzteris May 2012 #290
sounds like she was surrounded by them mzteris May 2012 #287
Does it matter? Yes, it does. baldguy May 2012 #44
you missed the point completely Skittles May 2012 #86
their future is getting bought and packed away, larkrake May 2012 #160
No, it doesn't Major Hogwash May 2012 #284
Yes. It matters. mzteris May 2012 #285
For once, we agree. TheWraith May 2012 #24
Education, or lack thereof is just one small part of the issue. TheMadMonk May 2012 #47
Um, MadMonk? whathehell May 2012 #186
Reitterating an earlier reply. Yes we do. And yes we've made... TheMadMonk May 2012 #324
Reiterating my earlier reply: whathehell May 2012 #357
I agree. Sounds more like trying to blame someone else for not doing your homework. nt Honeycombe8 May 2012 #32
From an economic standpoint its pretty close imo to what happens and thats regardless of the race of cstanleytech May 2012 #71
and where you have poverty you're going to have higher levels of problems, for various reasons. HiPointDem May 2012 #120
Even if it is, the kid is 13 years old, and at least she's thinking and writing. Crunchy Frog May 2012 #73
You disagree with her opinion, but that was an amazing essay for a 13 year old. pnwmom May 2012 #92
Not over the top at all azureblue May 2012 #108
Godwin's corollary is a bull shit internet meme. NutmegYankee May 2012 #169
hmm... chervilant May 2012 #178
It wasn't really a comparison. She didn't say education was like slavery. jobycom May 2012 #204
Bravo Jada malaise May 2012 #2
wow. She's an 8th grader? mzteris May 2012 #3
I went to a school which was 90% black XemaSab May 2012 #54
the poster is a vocal supporter of charter schools. HiPointDem May 2012 #122
+1 proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #139
Thanks. I was wondering where that was in this mix. patrice May 2012 #193
YOu need to read the full story mzteris May 2012 #293
You and I probably agree about this story & for me, the last paragraph makes an patrice May 2012 #305
If "the poster" is meant to be me,I am ANTI-charter schools/vouchers/etc SoCalDem May 2012 #231
no, not you. HiPointDem May 2012 #235
You don't know what you're talking about mzteris May 2012 #292
oh, but i do. HiPointDem May 2012 #313
Obviously not. mzteris May 2012 #360
The lady dost protest too much. HiPointDem May 2012 #361
Which you must not have actually read mzteris May 2012 #364
wth have I said mzteris May 2012 #291
Sorry if there was some misunderstanding XemaSab May 2012 #296
K&R for this LadyHawkAZ May 2012 #4
Right, just like the Jim Crow laws and poll taxes Canuckistanian May 2012 #50
Sorry, but "overcrowded and poorly managed classrooms" Nye Bevan May 2012 #6
Society is being dragged back in that direction because of legions of uneducated people. Zalatix May 2012 #35
Disproportionate rates of imprissonment. Jasper, Texas. Trayvon Martin. TheMadMonk May 2012 #42
Every working person in america is forced to sell himself. Not unique to any race, creed or color. HiPointDem May 2012 #129
Sorry but that's NOT what she's saying. She's talking about the specific situation pnwmom May 2012 #95
that's not all she's saying. She's saying white teachers are deliberately refusing to actually HiPointDem May 2012 #132
Yeah, this is starting to reek Blue_Tires May 2012 #165
This is not a debate over the merits of her essay but by the response of school administrators. Harcourdt Fenton Mud May 2012 #148
Remember it's just the FDFNY's side of the "official" story Blue_Tires May 2012 #247
Correct...I went to an all white school that never had less than 60 plus kids in the class. whathehell May 2012 #188
This young woman was harassed, intimidated and bullied by teaching PROFESSIONALS after this... Earth_First May 2012 #8
Yup. Even now there are people on the other bullying thread denying this may happen. riderinthestorm May 2012 #69
I'm still trying to find a detailed confirmation of this... Blue_Tires May 2012 #159
exactly! instead of harassing her, why not dana_b May 2012 #217
Those White teachers who taught her how to read and write are being just like slave owners Taitertots May 2012 #9
She may have been home-schooled. Zalatix May 2012 #36
You're probably right XemaSab May 2012 #57
Or she's one of the extremely rare "by her own bootstraps" examples... TheMadMonk May 2012 #109
Why do you say that? mzteris May 2012 #294
Just like those white teachers who taught the Douglas children how to read? bupkus May 2012 #135
douglass was taught to read by the white wife of his master. and then by white children. and HiPointDem May 2012 #137
Sounds a lot like this 13 year old girl bupkus May 2012 #143
Or she may be like me. TheKentuckian May 2012 #210
While this 8th grader wrote a flawed analogy, MineralMan May 2012 #10
Because the Rochester City School District is run by corporate talent and racism that runs deep... Earth_First May 2012 #13
Whatever the reason, this 8th grader is not getting a proper MineralMan May 2012 #17
Looks like her education has been excellent so far. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #140
Yes, she did and while I don't like the response this child has received, whathehell May 2012 #314
The problem of these schools is not new, and I am sorry to see not much more progress has been made freshwest May 2012 #49
This is the closest thing I've seen to the truth in this thread. bayareamike May 2012 #77
another poster that doesn't understand what an analogy is CreekDog May 2012 #94
Huh? I definitely know what an analogy is. bayareamike May 2012 #127
everyone criticizing her analogy acts like they have to be the same to be in an analogy CreekDog May 2012 #155
If you took the time to read my post bayareamike May 2012 #228
After having edited my post multiple times, bayareamike May 2012 #303
Wrong. That 8th grader should teach you what an analogy means, because you don't know. CreekDog May 2012 #91
My major concern would be how she was treated by her school ProgressiveProfessor May 2012 #11
It was investigated. Earth_First May 2012 #15
it was? do you have a link for that? i've been looking and haven't been able to find any detail HiPointDem May 2012 #259
Google Jada Williams Rochester NY & you'll get a LOT of links ...n/t SoCalDem May 2012 #300
I already *have,* as i said. I asked for a link to the claim earth first made, because i haven't HiPointDem May 2012 #312
I agree with Jada, but must say that I think that this situation might apply to all students due teddy51 May 2012 #12
the problem there Flatpicker May 2012 #20
what a crock of bullshit. i know some city district schoolteachers. it's their fault they have kids dionysus May 2012 #14
+1 Thanks. n/t Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #29
You can lead a horse to water, but.... aka-chmeee May 2012 #62
i don't blame the kids. i live in the city in question. we're basically talking about children from dionysus May 2012 #89
I am wondering... peace13 May 2012 #145
Can any school teach kids who come from those backgrounds? XemaSab May 2012 #281
It's not their fault, obviously, if they have overcrowded classrooms pnwmom May 2012 #96
we have had crappy superintendants, and suburbians are pissed about their property taxes dionysus May 2012 #102
Unfortunately, her teachers and administrators proved her point pnwmom May 2012 #107
"it is hard to learn because so few there are actually willing to learn" joshcryer May 2012 #106
the race component is only valid if the white kids (if any) are doing well. otherwise msongs May 2012 #16
I agree Flatpicker May 2012 #19
It isn't just financial... TedBronson May 2012 #65
Great graphic mactime May 2012 #88
id imagine iamthebandfanman May 2012 #176
PER child chervilant May 2012 #203
That's awesome proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #224
Yes, a white person should decide when a black person can consider something racism :sarcasm: CreekDog May 2012 #97
I don't think Flatpicker May 2012 #114
Thank you for the sanity break. n/t whathehell May 2012 #222
Depending upon the particular circumstances, the converse of that statement is possibly relevant too patrice May 2012 #205
+ 1 chervilant May 2012 #209
Agreed. And though there may, ONLY may, be similarities in the respective failures of more or less patrice May 2012 #192
Rochester, New York has lost it's corporate sponsor and no longer has a reason to CK_John May 2012 #18
It's a very well written essay. I commend her. proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #21
She said the result was a lot alike CreekDog May 2012 #101
And your expertise is what exactly? proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #141
since when does one need to be an expert to know what an analogy can be? CreekDog May 2012 #153
And I say she's stretching it proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #156
again, where does an analogy have to be among things that are completely the same? CreekDog May 2012 #157
I'm going to agree to disagree with you proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #170
Your definition of false analogy would apply to saying that Jews in camps were treated like slaves CreekDog May 2012 #197
Sounds more specifically like race-based slavery in the U.S. Neoma May 2012 #180
It is an analogy nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #229
Where are you getting the impression anyone can't read or write? proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #280
Look up functional illiteracy nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #339
That's not the inability to read or write proud2BlibKansan May 2012 #355
Not more insulting than you nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #356
As a trained historian, I would have to agree! zappaman May 2012 #277
What a lost opportunity!! blaze May 2012 #22
I've brought up what I think are legit, decent questions Blue_Tires May 2012 #196
Agree completely. kiranon May 2012 #202
yep - that's what I was thinking too dana_b May 2012 #219
If you were fed poison, instead of medicine Demeter May 2012 #23
Do you really believe that? XemaSab May 2012 #68
I went to Detroit public schools Demeter May 2012 #72
Not just those who "aren't motivated to learn", but also about what they ARE motivated to do, patrice May 2012 #150
Can she (or any student, black or white) kiva May 2012 #25
This young lady is a very smart, observant and Smilo May 2012 #26
I think she's over-the-top hairy krishna May 2012 #27
Oh, yes, blame the teachers. harmonicon May 2012 #28
+1. But it's the massa's narrative: Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #31
And the master's narrative is showing up on this thread too. From posters that...ummm... HiPointDem May 2012 #82
And 76 recs so far. It's the *teachers'* fault that the classrooms are overcrowded... Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #121
a number of charter school supporters on this thread. privatization is now a progressive policy, HiPointDem May 2012 #123
+1000 Starry Messenger May 2012 #125
+1 LASlibinSC May 2012 #38
Slave owners did what they did for their own personal benefit 4th law of robotics May 2012 #52
They just enjoy keeping black kids down because all white people are racists. They probably get HiPointDem May 2012 #83
Ah a bounty system 4th law of robotics May 2012 #164
Just fyi, and for what it's worth, the 'Frederick Douglass Foundation of New York' is a Republican Bluenorthwest May 2012 #30
BNW: you've done it again. +1,+1, +1, +1. Smarmie Doofus May 2012 #34
The actual website linked claims they are 'left and right' and suggest one could call them a new Bluenorthwest May 2012 #39
there sure is a lot of that these days. all the types who stood 4-square against the civil rights HiPointDem May 2012 #85
thank you. HiPointDem May 2012 #84
It shouldn't matter who sponsered the essay series. joshcryer May 2012 #98
I had to bleach my brain after seeing that site Blue_Tires May 2012 #158
The fact is you posted the story as told by the right wing. Did you post her essay in the OP? Bluenorthwest May 2012 #194
That is factually untrue, I did not post the story as told by the right wing. I posted the essay... joshcryer May 2012 #316
it's certainly instructive (and amusing/infuriating) seeing them contort to co-opt her work fishwax May 2012 #223
You want to really have a laugh? Blue_Tires May 2012 #244
lol fishwax May 2012 #255
I read their bullshit tenure / pension bashing which isn't the reason for this. It's class size. joshcryer May 2012 #317
Which leads to another question... Did this girl "really" write that paper? MattBaggins May 2012 #116
Thank you. nt. Starry Messenger May 2012 #126
We are all slaves to debt..... DeSwiss May 2012 #33
Hate to tell you, but 99% of working people are cog-makers for the machine as well. One way HiPointDem May 2012 #131
Never said we weren't.... DeSwiss May 2012 #269
except that her explanation is the racism of white teachers as a whole, and her allies are groups HiPointDem May 2012 #272
I understand..... DeSwiss May 2012 #310
ooooooooh. HiPointDem May 2012 #311
+ a gazillion million! chervilant May 2012 #214
Exactly. DeSwiss May 2012 #270
Clearly she's touched a raw nerve...... marmar May 2012 #40
But just as clearly gratuitous May 2012 #46
Shrill... chervilant May 2012 #216
If she wrote an essay that claimed public schools are no different from the holocaust . . . 4th law of robotics May 2012 #53
The comparison may be over the top davidthegnome May 2012 #41
Video! baldguy May 2012 #45
If those are direct quotations from her essay, she seems to be learning very well, JDPriestly May 2012 #48
Oh, I doubt that she's communicating her own ideas. harmonicon May 2012 #59
Oh wow. This young woman isn't "communicating her own ideas." joshcryer May 2012 #99
it's not unheard of... Blue_Tires May 2012 #171
This OP could have been Jada speaking her own writing. Instead, it is a link to Republicans talking Bluenorthwest May 2012 #195
Here's the actual essay: Blue_Tires May 2012 #220
Thanks for posting it, I already read it when the OP posted a sermon about it. Go to the source I sa Bluenorthwest May 2012 #256
I read this essay very differently than the OP frames it XemaSab May 2012 #297
I'm not defending the OP. I did not post FDF's crap. I posted the essay in #98. I'm defending Jada. joshcryer May 2012 #319
I am about to step in hit, but I will expand her analogy nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #58
Would you like her to teach the principles of The Frederick Douglass Foundation of New York? harmonicon May 2012 #66
Damn you are jumping to Conclussions nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #79
The "Americans are stupid and illiterate" meme comes from the same sources. HiPointDem May 2012 #87
The FDFNY is exploiting her, no doubt, but her message is a good message. joshcryer May 2012 #103
I think it's 50/50. harmonicon May 2012 #134
No it is structural nadinbrzezinski May 2012 #198
I ask, why is her good message in need of a frame from some Republicans? Bluenorthwest May 2012 #260
I didn't post FDF's crap. I read the essay, then watched her perform it. joshcryer May 2012 #315
No I wouldn't, but I'm judging what she wrote, which is what I thought the OP was about CreekDog May 2012 #245
You agree and have sympathy with these statements? harmonicon May 2012 #253
Of course I don't condone or agree with those statements --this is a 13 year old CreekDog May 2012 #268
She seems like a very hate filled person mactime May 2012 #63
that's a horrid thing to say and I don't see how you cali May 2012 #67
She is 13 mactime May 2012 #70
lots of new people in this thread CreekDog May 2012 #105
And lots of old people... harmonicon May 2012 #136
It's certainly a different DU from the past Blue_Tires May 2012 #183
She was obviously brought up in a home where she was taught to think for herself pnwmom May 2012 #104
I'd like to know the truth about the school "punishing" her for the essay Blue_Tires May 2012 #234
I'm not going to say hate-filled Blue_Tires May 2012 #167
lol. this is bright, feisty kid cali May 2012 #64
A good, thinking mind like that should be nurtured & rewarded, not punished. pacalo May 2012 #74
VIDEO interview with the student (and more links to reference) SoCalDem May 2012 #80
Great essay! It is so true. I saw this myself in school years ago. McCamy Taylor May 2012 #90
I agree. This is amazingly thoughtful for a 13 year old, whether or not a reader would pnwmom May 2012 #100
For a valid analogy, modern efforts to "prevent real learning from happening" would have to be AnotherMcIntosh May 2012 #110
I bet most of the people who disagree with Jada ecstatic May 2012 #111
+1 n/t Catherina May 2012 #113
probably. that doesn't mean her school is bad because it's populated by racist teachers, and HiPointDem May 2012 #124
Truth! Godot51 May 2012 #112
This administration has continued and intensified the policies of "no child left behind". Why HiPointDem May 2012 #128
Bipartisan or even Democratic does not mean an initiative is conservative TheKentuckian May 2012 #208
Not Over The Top At All DallasNE May 2012 #115
+ a gazillion!! n/t chervilant May 2012 #221
A very bright child, she gets what many of my peers do not /nt Dragonfli May 2012 #118
I'm not sure this is entirely racial Rittermeister May 2012 #130
As an aside, am I the only one offended that some RW front group Blue_Tires May 2012 #146
Thank you. Starry Messenger May 2012 #213
No sweat... Blue_Tires May 2012 #248
winger fingerprints all over this story. the folks who are always telling us cases like trayvon HiPointDem May 2012 #250
Quoting Woodrow Wilson: noamnety May 2012 #149
Blaming the teachers is merely pointing out the symptoms and not understanding the disease... Javaman May 2012 #151
As an experiment, set up a charter school with black students and black, mostly male, teachers FarCenter May 2012 #152
That raises an interesting point: 4th law of robotics May 2012 #166
There is a significant difference in age of puberty between blacks and whites FarCenter May 2012 #174
Any difference in age of puberty between black & white has to do with weight & body fat %, HiPointDem May 2012 #252
This is total racism XemaSab May 2012 #200
Since black people are victims of racism, they cannot themselves be racists. FarCenter May 2012 #201
You ever been beat up because of the color of your skin? XemaSab May 2012 #206
No, but how would that be relevant? FarCenter May 2012 #211
If I say "I'm going to go find a black person and beat her up because she's black" XemaSab May 2012 #212
If you're white or Asian, you're racist; if black, no; if Latino, need more data. FarCenter May 2012 #215
What about someone who is half black? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #226
So if 5 black people get together and beat me up for being white XemaSab May 2012 #275
Black parents train their kids not to trust white people? 4th law of robotics May 2012 #225
It's essential for their survival in an institutionally racist white society FarCenter May 2012 #237
And apparently leading to modern day slavery 4th law of robotics May 2012 #238
Beyond trust, there is the "disconnect" caused by "different cultural and historical backgrounds". FarCenter May 2012 #241
This focus on the "parents teaching their kids to be racist" thing for now 4th law of robotics May 2012 #242
"Hate"? No. "Distrust"? Yes. FarCenter May 2012 #249
Ok, now we're getting somewhere 4th law of robotics May 2012 #251
Individual experience doesn't matter FarCenter May 2012 #262
In your example the person involved 4th law of robotics May 2012 #263
Choice just changes the probabilities of a bad interaction, not the possibility FarCenter May 2012 #266
Ah so it's ok to judge an entire race if you have the stats on your side 4th law of robotics May 2012 #273
Rochester Parents United - the plot thickens. HiPointDem May 2012 #254
This 13-year old's essay is in a broader political fight in Rochester FarCenter May 2012 #265
agreed. the involvement of parents united & the folks who gave her the prize, plus the fact HiPointDem May 2012 #267
Ahh... yes, the family has the backing of right-wing groups which want to destroy public education. harmonicon May 2012 #257
1. plenty of them already exist Blue_Tires May 2012 #207
Statistics on parent satisfaction and on parent-teacher relationships would be most relevant FarCenter May 2012 #218
that's not the solution CreekDog May 2012 #240
Also, how would this not look like the 1950s deep south XemaSab May 2012 #278
You could do it in a northern city where the mayor, council, and school board are mostly black FarCenter May 2012 #283
Why a northern city and not, say, Atlanta? XemaSab May 2012 #295
Does Atlanta have predominantly white teachers? Does it have the problem that Rochester has? FarCenter May 2012 #298
Yes, all the teachers in Atlanta are white XemaSab May 2012 #299
It's hard to find statistics on school staff racial breakdowns. No affirmative action for teachers? FarCenter May 2012 #304
Why are you so hung up on the idea that students can't learn from teachers of different races? XemaSab May 2012 #306
If it's the other guy/gal, it's ALWAYS the other guy/gal. That goes for both "sides" of any question patrice May 2012 #154
Failure... Lost-in-FL May 2012 #161
Agreed! in all but "... privilege is freedom." Any position that CANNOT survive without oppression patrice May 2012 #168
Thanks for the reference. Lost-in-FL May 2012 #181
It's in google books: patrice May 2012 #185
BTW, Freire is also the more widely recognized source of: "Teachers as Learners and Learners as patrice May 2012 #190
I understand her issue with the lack of funding and the continuing packets (busy work). Jennicut May 2012 #173
For having such a terrible education, iamthebandfanman May 2012 #177
Agree with the Kid. Octafish May 2012 #184
Busy work...sigh...teachers that live off of 'busy work' Rex May 2012 #199
Stolen Hypothesis from the GOP lobodons May 2012 #233
Not just low information voters, but also, voters with information engineered to specs patrice May 2012 #258
K/R and BTW, Race or Class, doesn't matter, it's about power in the hands of a few. NYC_SKP May 2012 #261
yes, it's certainly about the ability of power to create narratives that further its power. HiPointDem May 2012 #264
The reaction she got proves her point. Curmudgeoness May 2012 #276
I have serious doubts about the "harassment and intimidation" Blue_Tires May 2012 #279
At the very least XemaSab May 2012 #301
That is a good point. Curmudgeoness May 2012 #308
"The Frederick Douglass Foundation...brings the sanctity of free market and limited government ideas HiPointDem May 2012 #320
Please don't diminish Jada who is also being exploted by the FDF. joshcryer May 2012 #322
Pointing out the nature of the Frederick Douglass Foundation diminishes Jada? No, I don't think HiPointDem May 2012 #326
Yes, it does. It's basically side tracking what she said. joshcryer May 2012 #329
I'm not really interested in what some kid in Rochester writes in an essay. I don't think kids' HiPointDem May 2012 #331
I'm quite interested in what children have to say. joshcryer May 2012 #335
good for you. HiPointDem May 2012 #336
BTW, thanks for explaining your diminishment for all to see. joshcryer May 2012 #337
I think people who resort to personal attacks in political discussions diminish themselves. HiPointDem May 2012 #341
"I'm not really interested in what some kid in Rochester writes in an essay." That's diminishment. joshcryer May 2012 #342
You certainly are. And words do have meanings. Easier to understand when you keep them HiPointDem May 2012 #343
Jada Willams has only a few hits on Google news. joshcryer May 2012 #344
I'm interested in what kids have to say XemaSab May 2012 #338
She also empathizes with her peers who can't read like she can. joshcryer May 2012 #340
I'm a teacher, and I'd agree with her. knitter4democracy May 2012 #321
Something to consider. Rex May 2012 #325
Oh, I doubt it's that. knitter4democracy May 2012 #359
Rochester School District targeted by the Broad Foundation. HiPointDem May 2012 #345
And here's what Broad brought to Rochester: it's all about firing teachers. HiPointDem May 2012 #347
They're quite open about their agenda in the 4th update to the original story. joshcryer May 2012 #350
Rochester School District targeted by Gates Foundation HiPointDem May 2012 #346
No shit. No bearing on Jada's essay. joshcryer May 2012 #348
Rochester: Criticism Over High Stakes Standardized Testing HiPointDem May 2012 #351
Rochester targeted by "Parent Revolution:" The "Parents United" Group is part of this push. HiPointDem May 2012 #353
Rochester City School District stats: Students = 75% poor, 65% black, 22% hispanic, 11% white, HiPointDem May 2012 #354
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