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Octafish

(55,745 posts)
7. The Goal of Wholesale Surveillance
Fri May 8, 2015, 08:03 AM
May 2015


The goal of wholesale surveillance, [font color="green"]as (Hannah) Arendt wrote in “The Origins of Totalitarianism,” is not, in the end, to discover crimes, “but to be on hand when the government decides to arrest a certain category of the population.” [/font color]And because Americans’ emails, phone conversations, Web searches and geographical movements are recorded and stored in perpetuity in government databases, there will be more than enough “evidence” to seize us should the state deem it necessary. This information waits like a deadly virus inside government vaults to be turned against us. It does not matter how trivial or innocent that information is. In totalitarian states, justice, like truth, is irrelevant.

Chris Hedges, The Last Gasp of American Democracy

Thank you for another outstanding OP, woo me with science. KBR.
K&R for the sad, sad truth. Scuba May 2015 #1
My heart use to ache... Rockyj May 2015 #41
hyperbolic nonsense. stonecutter357 May 2015 #2
Crime? Against Whom? Demeter May 2015 #4
Then Snowden has nothing to fear coming home and facing a jury. Cali_Democrat May 2015 #35
Very Trollish hueymahl May 2015 #11
I believe some were/are paid trolls used to divert attention from the actual spying and Dustlawyer May 2015 #17
If facts become 'hyberbolic nonsense' we will be in an Orwellian nightmare. But surprisingly sabrina 1 May 2015 #15
awwww...authoritarians have a sad. nashville_brook May 2015 #27
hyperbolic sock puppet. KG May 2015 #28
He ought to receive a full pardon... Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #3
Hell, he ought to receive woo me with science May 2015 #5
Along with the Congressional Medal of Freedom. Fuddnik May 2015 #6
LOL Cali_Democrat May 2015 #37
The Goal of Wholesale Surveillance Octafish May 2015 #7
Thank you! woo me with science May 2015 #38
Take a while to read all these again... Thespian2 May 2015 #8
Fortunatey progressives are supportive of Snowden and al the other Whistle Blowers going back to sabrina 1 May 2015 #16
Yes, I agree Thespian2 May 2015 #31
+10000000000 woo me with science May 2015 #48
It's getting harder for them for sure. What was revealed is what people are interested sabrina 1 May 2015 #49
K & R AzDar May 2015 #9
"Snowden is a national hero" TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #10
Sure they do. According to the MSM he's they guy who turned traitor/hero d_legendary1 May 2015 #19
The average American doesn't even know who the Vice President is... TerrapinFlyer May 2015 #20
Does it bother you when someone dares to speak out against the Oligarch Authority? rhett o rick May 2015 #32
K&R! This post deserves hundreds of recommendations! Enthusiast May 2015 #12
Thank you for the list hueymahl May 2015 #13
K&R SamKnause May 2015 #14
Thanks for the extensive list. zeemike May 2015 #18
kick for Ed Snowden. navarth May 2015 #21
Kick and R. BeanMusical May 2015 #22
HUGE K & R !!! - THANK YOU !!! WillyT May 2015 #23
No warrants for any crimes concerning this have been issued except Cryptoad May 2015 #24
Sadly you side with the Oligarch Authority. Snowden is a hero for the 99% and Gen Clapper is a hero rhett o rick May 2015 #33
Not a matter of "siding",,,, just the facts Cryptoad May 2015 #39
Let's take a look at your logic. You say "just the facts", which first of all would be a little rhett o rick May 2015 #40
Good for you Cryptoad May 2015 #45
You haven't shown us that your facts are more than just your opinion. nm rhett o rick May 2015 #46
I have searched and found no warrants,,,,,,, Cryptoad May 2015 #47
K&R&bookmark JEB May 2015 #25
I disagree that he is a hero OP but I respect your right to have the opinion that he is. nt cstanleytech May 2015 #26
I've got some links of my own here, if you got the stones to peruse them: Blue_Tires May 2015 #29
Kick for the Constitution. Octafish May 2015 #30
Oh, that quaint old document? gratuitous May 2015 #36
Prosense is not here any more to defend the NSA and rip Snowden. Darn it! Logical May 2015 #34
What happened to him? nt bananas May 2015 #42
Just left I heard. Or taking a break. Nothing bad. nt Logical May 2015 #44
k&r for the night crowd. nt bananas May 2015 #43
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