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AgingAmerican

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85. Clinton was definitely for it

Fri May 8, 2015, 05:05 PM

May 2015

Although I believe it would have passed regardless.

The 'sequester' was another of Obama's big mistakes. Almost everything in it were on the record as stated long term Republican goals. It was a Republican wet dream. Obama's ridiculous one sided 'bipartisanship' will do so much long term damage to this country. They have gained more under him than they did under GW Bush. He put 'everything on the table' and they put 'we won't shoot the hostage' on the table, then Obama signed on the dotted line.

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It's getting real hard to tell just who destroyed the economy... [View all] Lancero May 2015 OP

Reagan handmade34 May 2015 #1

The 'magic snake oil'... odd_duck May 2015 #65

Why should you think it was monocausal? malthaussen May 2015 #2

Bingo davekriss May 2015 #8

Exactly right. They all had a hand in pushing supply side failure on point May 2015 #10

Yes, but Reagan SLASHED tax rates on the wealthy and to this day they are still slashed. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #53

They've been in decline since JFK malthaussen May 2015 #57

As a result of the 1981 and 1986 bills, the top income tax rate was slashed from 70% to 28%. NoJusticeNoPeace May 2015 #59

Earned versus unearned income. 1939 May 2015 #64

you hit the nail on the head! liberal_at_heart May 2015 #63

Every single one of them worked/works for big donors/big corporations Marrah_G May 2015 #3

No one screwed the economy. The rich always keep getting richer. It's most of us who got screwed. merrily May 2015 #4

I'll stick with Ronnie Raygun as the one Go Vols May 2015 #5

Deregulation began with Nixon and continues through Obama. merrily May 2015 #6

Breaking the Unions started with Ronnie, Go Vols May 2015 #7

Breaking unions started with FDR. That was one of the first New Deal merrily May 2015 #11

RayGun used PATCO to make organized labor look like the bad guys. lpbk2713 May 2015 #15

Raygun changed our economy by introducing the trickledown theory - the others including jwirr May 2015 #9

When did the US economy operate in another way? merrily May 2015 #12

Under FDR. We had a mixed economy that created the middle class. Not the filthy rich. Do you jwirr May 2015 #14

I think we have always had a plutocracy. merrily May 2015 #19

When it comes to what type of government I agree. But plutocracy and democracy are not jwirr May 2015 #20

Plutonomy then. merrily May 2015 #22

Please define that? jwirr May 2015 #25

.... merrily May 2015 #26

Then why are we talking about income inequality now? Why haven't we been talking about it all jwirr May 2015 #33

I'm sure people have always talked about it. They just didn't necessarily used that term. merrily May 2015 #45

The campaign money and lobbying is definitely a BIG problem. I think what you are calling a jwirr May 2015 #50

I think we are, but I would call it big business, since a mom and pop can be incorporated and a merrily May 2015 #56

I know. We us the word corporate to mean so many things. A lot of small family farmers jwirr May 2015 #67

Wow. That's impressive. Facism, too. merrily May 2015 #70

I wish Bernie could scare them but he needs a lot of us at his back. And he looks so gentle. jwirr May 2015 #72

I use the words trickle down because I do not know what else to call the economic theory that jwirr May 2015 #52

It's as good a name as any. merrily May 2015 #62

I do agree that it has always been here and I suspect that it can be found in the history of a lot jwirr May 2015 #69

I'm guessing you weren't around before Reagan? ieoeja May 2015 #78

You might want to check this as well. merrily May 2015 #36

that's because the economy isn't destroyed OKNancy May 2015 #13

Good observation. Nye Bevan May 2015 #16

No nude Texans. merrily May 2015 #31

The economy started declining with computers, and Americans liking transistor radios and VW Beetles. Hoyt May 2015 #17

Want fries with that? merrily May 2015 #28

Trading among ourselves will not stop "want fries with that." Hoyt May 2015 #34

Not trading among ourselves sure isn't stopping it, either. Thing is, what will? merrily May 2015 #37

A bit naive. Not sure there is a whole lot that will change things, that's why Hoyt May 2015 #44

It's funny you say we must look to Scandinavia, then rule out Sanders in the next breath. merrily May 2015 #46

Because he can't get us there, other than as an idea man. He can't win a GE. Hoyt May 2015 #48

LOL. merrily May 2015 #49

"Admittedly, I pulled those percentages out of my rear" AgingAmerican May 2015 #73

Awesome! neverforget May 2015 #88

Regan and the Republicans have done a masterful job of fucking the middle and lower class. NCTraveler May 2015 #18

Use the r word all you want. NAFTA, repeal of Glass Steagall. No, he wasn't the only one, but merrily May 2015 #21

I would agree with your assessment. nt. NCTraveler May 2015 #24

NAFTA was Clintons biggest mistake AgingAmerican May 2015 #79

Sorry, but Clinton, Summer and Greenspan ALL worked very hard to get that veto proof majority by merrily May 2015 #81

Clinton was definitely for it AgingAmerican May 2015 #85

"Although I believe it would have passed regardless." merrily May 2015 #86

There is quite a difference between "ruined the economy" and "the TPP will ruin the economy". djean111 May 2015 #23

reagan, happily supported by the dem party. KG May 2015 #27

Well, by politicians. I have this crazy idea we voters are also part of the party. merrily May 2015 #30

It's not one individual or treaty but an overall trajectory BainsBane May 2015 #29

It has been policies, not personalities, that have ruined the economy me b zola May 2015 #32

Uh, labor was protesting NAFTA back when it was being sold. Marr May 2015 #35

+1 /nt RiverLover May 2015 #66

Who cares what labor wants? Republicans have made them out to be bad guys and liberal_at_heart May 2015 #75

When both led us to this point, I suppose it is. mmonk May 2015 #38

The Bush administration stopped enforcing anti-trust laws AgingAmerican May 2015 #39

Anti trust laws were also loosening up and loosening up over a long period. merrily May 2015 #51

The Bush admin completely ignored them AgingAmerican May 2015 #54

Maybe, but, by then, there was not much to enforce anyway. merrily May 2015 #60

The laws didn't allow wholesale grift AgingAmerican May 2015 #77

I have no idea what that means. Besides, jailing people after the economies of several nations merrily May 2015 #82

Not jailing them, or prosecuting them AgingAmerican May 2015 #84

Reagan. Where economics is concerned, he was Morgoth to GW Bush's Sauron. True Blue Door May 2015 #40

Several had a hand in it, but you forgot Clinton for daredtowork May 2015 #41

They ALL had a hand in it. 99Forever May 2015 #42

Not a single President screwed over the economy. It was a combined effort. Autumn May 2015 #43

Big money destroyed the economy. It now costs more than $1 billion to buy the job of president. lumberjack_jeff May 2015 #47

The Economy is not destroyed 4Q2u2 May 2015 #55

Who are you talking to? Bradical79 May 2015 #58

When in doubt, blame a Clinton... SidDithers May 2015 #61

Complaining about federal taxes..... 1939 May 2015 #68

Think back to the status of your own communities. Vinca May 2015 #71

Perhaps a Reminder One_Life_To_Give May 2015 #74

Rayguns the great destroyer workinclasszero May 2015 #76

Rumours of its demise have been greatly exaggerated. Donald Ian Rankin May 2015 #80

The issue which has swept down the centuries and which will have to be fought sooner or later Tierra_y_Libertad May 2015 #83

The players behind the Reagan administration didn't help matters. HughBeaumont May 2015 #87

Well, you have all day and many good explanations... SalviaBlue May 2015 #89