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DirkGently

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124. "Insiders" don't listen to "outsiders."

Mon May 11, 2015, 09:15 AM

May 2015

As Larry Summers explained to Elizabeth Warren:

He teed it up this way: I had a choice. I could be an insider or I could be an outsider. Outsiders can say whatever they want. But people on the inside don’t listen to them. Insiders, however, get lots of access and a chance to push their ideas. People — powerful people — listen to what they have to say. But insiders also understand one unbreakable rule: They don’t criticize other insiders.

I had been warned.

http://billmoyers.com/2014/09/05/i-had-been-warned/

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Why is the party scared of Alan Grayson? [View all] nashville_brook May 2015 OP

Simple - Oligarchs Don't Want The Proles To Wake Up cantbeserious May 2015 #1

makes them nervous. nashville_brook May 2015 #9

You Nailed it!!! Wellstone ruled May 2015 #45

I believe you are correct. Enthusiast May 2015 #53

Because he tells the TRUTH in a plain and frequently humorous manner? whathehell May 2015 #2

Blunt truth upsets the LWolf May 2015 #3

Would love to see Mr. Grayson in the senate. /nt think May 2015 #4

he belongs in "the deliberative body" -- it's what he's born to do. nashville_brook May 2015 #5

I agree Grayson does belong in the Senate.. eloydude May 2015 #8

this is a must read --> Are Democratic Leaders "Tea Partying" The Progressives? nashville_brook May 2015 #10

I'm not at all sure of my ground here because I seldom watch TV, but Jackpine Radical May 2015 #27

I believe you're right. Faux liberals on Fux news. The Medium is the Message, unfortunately. erronis May 2015 #33

There was some old social-science research on opinion change, iirc, Jackpine Radical May 2015 #35

this used to be very evident on Crossfire. nashville_brook May 2015 #49

Yep, he was hired to play the role of Liberal Strawman. arcane1 May 2015 #52

who's our conservative strawman equivalent? Michael Steele? nashville_brook May 2015 #55

CNN used to have a similar program Art_from_Ark May 2015 #115

"Bernies Mighty Roar" madokie May 2015 #77

. Brother Buzz May 2015 #6

Corporate Media shapes the argument before it even hits our ears... Cooley Hurd May 2015 #7

I live in Florida, and I will not vote for Patrick Murphy. djean111 May 2015 #11

Alan grayson AC_Mem May 2015 #82

the best ways to donate in Orlando are directly to the candidates you love nashville_brook May 2015 #100

I agree with other's fredamae May 2015 #12

Have-nots unite! dreamnightwind May 2015 #117

he speaks a language that's recognizable to regular people nashville_brook May 2015 #122

Very good question. CharlotteVale May 2015 #13

Alan Grayson has some serious issues that won't play well with voters. Consider his remarks okaawhatever May 2015 #14

you've articulated perfectly the attack platform the party has laid out. nashville_brook May 2015 #15

Grayson was really coming up fast & great! esp. speaking out on heathcare on the House appalachiablue May 2015 #41

...! KoKo May 2015 #127

Thank goodness Hillary's pay-to-play State Dept., records misconduct, and marital problems whereisjustice May 2015 #20

No, it's that most Democrats realize Hillary didn't have a pay-to-play State Dept., there isn't okaawhatever May 2015 #22

$300,000 a speech buys a lot of influence doesn't it? Of course that's the discount rate. How was whereisjustice May 2015 #96

So the Rolling Stones are indebtted to the coliseum where they perform because they get paid okaawhatever May 2015 #103

"your b.s. about the DNC kissing Wall Street's ass is fucking precious" -- i'd alert on this, but nashville_brook May 2015 #123

You'd like to think that, wouldn't you? naoya6161 May 2015 #141

There is a legitimate question whether Grayson can win statewide. iandhr May 2015 #16

theres an even more legitimate question whether Murphy can win statewide. nashville_brook May 2015 #17

Murphy got rid of Allen West... iandhr May 2015 #18

Murphy WAS a Republican, right up until he challenged West. So he fit right in. djean111 May 2015 #26

Would you vote for Elizabeth Warren? nt okaawhatever May 2015 #38

Warren did not switch parties just to grab a seat. djean111 May 2015 #40

I don't like Murphy as a candidate, but I do understand why many former Republicans okaawhatever May 2015 #47

Oh, Murphy doesn't want to be a Democrat, he wants the Democratic Party to be Republican. djean111 May 2015 #50

Thanks for the info. I didn't realize he was that bad. I think I like him mainly because he spared okaawhatever May 2015 #54

Lot of blind hatred for Murphy there naoya6161 May 2015 #61

That's because he's one of the worst Democrats in Congress and his "conversions" TeamPooka May 2015 #64

his intent was to force THE GRAND BARGAIN on Social Security nashville_brook May 2015 #69

Are you sure about that? naoya6161 May 2015 #71

you want to just call me on my cell? nashville_brook May 2015 #76

My my naoya6161 May 2015 #78

thanks for following me over from The Florida Squeeze! nashville_brook May 2015 #75

Welcome to DU gopiscrap May 2015 #84

Not blind at all. And he is perfectly okay with cutting Social Security. djean111 May 2015 #130

No proof naoya6161 May 2015 #136

Yes. It's not Republicans coming to the Dems. DirkGently May 2015 #126

Exactly. Exactly. djean111 May 2015 #129

Too many Republicans in the fundraising circles? DirkGently May 2015 #19

And what about the big Democratic party donor who is Grayson's friend and attorney who has okaawhatever May 2015 #24

Yikes. So you're down with going after Grayson personally? DirkGently May 2015 #30

It isn't ONE donor. It's a big donor who is also his good friend and lawyer. Why are you okaawhatever May 2015 #31

if ONE DONOR can veto a campaign, that's wrong. nashville_brook May 2015 #57

I'm not saying one voter can veto a campaign. What I continue to say, and everyone fails to okaawhatever May 2015 #62

i read the POLITICO article too. everyone knows John Morgan's position. nashville_brook May 2015 #81

The Democratic Party acts like they need Wall Street's PERMISSION. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #21

There's a simple reason for that. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #28

I believe it's because they're running away from the charge that they're commies. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #32

Running all the way to fascism. Jackpine Radical May 2015 #37

They're proud of the idea that they can make the rich richer than Republicans. Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #48

there' Dems in this thread who believe that not only Wall Street, but any big donor nashville_brook May 2015 #72

mmmm, he's to the left of Dwight Eisenhower? Eleanors38 May 2015 #23

Florida has BEEN TOTALLY OWNED by the oligarchs for the last 25 years or so lark May 2015 #25

i grew up in a much different Florida nashville_brook May 2015 #51

Seems to me the state Democratic party is non-existent. lark May 2015 #140

Give us a good one and we can. naoya6161 May 2015 #142

Why would you say that about Grayson? lark May 2015 #144

I dont like him because he's as big an ass as the Tea Partiers 7962 May 2015 #29

"used insulting terms" trumad May 2015 #36

So you're one of those "my team right or wrong" folks, huh? 7962 May 2015 #39

He's my Congressman. trumad May 2015 #58

this is what i'm saying in the post -- there's people in our own party who'd rather nashville_brook May 2015 #79

It's more than insulting terms, and it's done in a way that is driving away voters: okaawhatever May 2015 #43

Whaaaa trumad May 2015 #59

i KNOW! crazy, right? nashville_brook May 2015 #60

Yeah, really stupid of Grayson naoya6161 May 2015 #63

In a gerrymandered district. trumad May 2015 #67

Wrong naoya6161 May 2015 #74

Maybe using the image of Klansmen is okay with you, but it is deeply offensive okaawhatever May 2015 #65

oh i don't know, how is pushing the TPP on us good politics for Obama? nashville_brook May 2015 #70

what are you referring to? nashville_brook May 2015 #56

There were several inappropriate and offensive ads: okaawhatever May 2015 #66

you're literally upset on the Tea Party's behalf. bwahahahahaaaha. nashville_brook May 2015 #68

He also used an ad that was clipped to make it a lie. 7962 May 2015 #95

I back policy. i could care less about advertising. nashville_brook May 2015 #98

You may not care... naoya6161 May 2015 #102

and that'll just be Grayson's decision -- when the party attacks, i'll be there to call them out. nashville_brook May 2015 #120

Fear of competence Demeter May 2015 #34

That's why they're spinning so furiously... nashville_brook May 2015 #73

"Insiders" don't listen to "outsiders." DirkGently May 2015 #124

Is this the guy... OilemFirchen May 2015 #42

Wait. You mean when he attacked the Republican's "Die quickly" plan? DirkGently May 2015 #128

Off base? Me? Of course not. OilemFirchen May 2015 #133

It really is about l vs 99%, Occupy had it right, we are slow to realize how powerful the meaning of mother earth May 2015 #44

here's a great example of why people love Alan Grayson... nashville_brook May 2015 #89

Absolutely, Grayson is one of our best, and I agree about O'Rourke, he is so sickening to listen mother earth May 2015 #90

i think they use PJ b/c he's a weak adversary...as mentioned above nashville_brook May 2015 #93

Is the purpose of this thread to vent against "The Party Bosses" or do you want an answer? brooklynite May 2015 #46

Same reason it was/is scared of Howard Dean: elleng May 2015 #80

I agree, they marginalize them quickly, the Dean scream, 1-2 punch to a fast rising star with solid mother earth May 2015 #91

Him and Bernie could turn this MESS around . orpupilofnature57 May 2015 #83

i can easily see a slate of progressive candidates running nationwide, nashville_brook May 2015 #87

He speaks truth to power CanonRay May 2015 #85

Scared? NaturalHigh May 2015 #86

Compare the compensation for serving office versus being a lobbyist once you leave GoneFishin May 2015 #88

Well said, it is truly kabuki theater...money trumps all. I think your reply nails it. nt mother earth May 2015 #92

++ Power hates democracy. Grayson doesn't play ball. DirkGently May 2015 #125

don't they get the same amount of money for a candidate, if they win or lose? MisterP May 2015 #94

there's a game that goes on with networking and who is who's bestie nashville_brook May 2015 #97

they've repeatedly shown they'd rather have a conservadem who's behind in the polls than an electabl MisterP May 2015 #107

unless the strategy is simply to keep progressives from advancing to higher office. nashville_brook May 2015 #112

How much richer is Tester since he went to Washington? How would I find that out? nt ChisolmTrailDem May 2015 #99

keeping Ashley Judd out kept McConnell in reddread May 2015 #101

same numbskulls who thought it was a bad idea for Grimes to say she'd voted for Obama nashville_brook May 2015 #121

That was so infuriating. DirkGently May 2015 #131

One of the best pieces I've seen written here Depaysement May 2015 #104

You have to crawl before you can walk. hay rick May 2015 #105

Hillary is the biggest easy target for Rs. party machinery isn't afraid of that. nashville_brook May 2015 #110

Sorry but Hillary != Grayson naoya6161 May 2015 #111

Do you disagree that no one riles Rs like the Clintons? nashville_brook May 2015 #113

One word: OBAMA naoya6161 May 2015 #114

you can't answer the question, can you. nashville_brook May 2015 #119

Already did naoya6161 May 2015 #135

Saw a bumper sticker today. hay rick May 2015 #138

Because They Are Afraid Of Truth-Tellers... BOTH Parties... WillyT May 2015 #106

Can't have the flow of money disrupted. JEB May 2015 #108

Grayson is a pretty polarizing figure. BlueStater May 2015 #109

Because he's lost elections in FL as often as he's won them? (nt) Recursion May 2015 #116

Because the money is. n/t Orsino May 2015 #118

I respect Representative Alan Grayson. SamKnause May 2015 #132

precisely. nashville_brook May 2015 #134

Only one person thinks the party is scared of Grayson. NCTraveler May 2015 #137

Florida Democratic Party is a fucking joke. Daniel537 May 2015 #139

Based on what knowledge? naoya6161 May 2015 #143