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Octafish

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65. Inside Information is so valuable in fighting terror and in making a buck it can lead to confusion.
Thu May 14, 2015, 10:00 AM
May 2015
Some of why the Secret Government knows how to turn a buck and fight the bad guys more or less:



The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld

By Prof Peter Dale Scott
Global Research, March 10, 2014
The Asia-Pacific Journal, Volume 12, Issue 10, No. 5

EXCERPT...

The Safari Club Milieu: George H.W. Bush, Theodore Shackley, and BCCI

The usual account of this super-agency’s origin is that it was

the brainchild of Count Alexandre de Marenches, the debonair and mustachioed chief of France’s CIA. The SDECE (Service de Documentation Extérieure et de Contre-Espionnage)…. Worried by Soviet and Cuban advances in postcolonial Africa, and by America’s post-Watergate paralysis in the field of undercover activity, the swashbuckling Marenches had come to Turki’s father, King Faisal, with a proposition…. [By 1979] Somali president Siad Barre had been bribed out of Soviet embrace by $75 million worth of Egyptian arms (paid for… by Saudi Arabia)….95

Joseph Trento adds that “The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations,… With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed… the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine.”.96

Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who were then forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by perhaps the most controversial of them all: Theodore Shackley.

Shackley, who still had ambitions to become DCI, believed that without his many sources and operatives like [Edwin] Wilson, the Safari Club—operating with [former DCI Richard] Helms in charge in Tehran—would be ineffective. … Unless Shackley took direct action to complete the privatization of intelligence operations soon, the Safari Club would not have a conduit to [CIA] resources. The solution: create a totally private intelligence network using CIA assets until President Carter could be replaced.97

Kevin Phillips has suggested that Bush on leaving the CIA had dealings with the bank most closely allied with Safari Club operations: the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). In Phillips’ words,

After leaving the CIA in January 1977, Bush became chairman of the executive committee of First International Bancshares and its British subsidiary, where, according to journalists Peter Truell and Larry Gurwin in their 1992 book ‘False Profits’ [p. 345], Bush ‘traveled on the bank’s behalf and sometimes marketed to international banks in London, including several Middle Eastern institutions.’98

Joseph Trento adds that through the London branch of this bank, which Bush chaired, “Adham’s petrodollars and BCCI money flowed for a variety of intelligence operations”99

It is clear moreover that BCCI operations, like Khashoggi’s before them, were marked by the ability to deal behind the scenes with both the Arab countries and also Israel.100

It is clear that for years the American deep state in Washington was both involved with and protected BCCI. Acting CIA director Richard Kerr acknowledged to a Senate Committee “that the CIA had also used BCCI for certain intelligence-gathering operations.”101

Later, a congressional inquiry showed that for more than ten years preceding the BCCI collapse in the summer of 1991, the FBI, the DEA, the CIA, the Customs Service, and the Department of Justice all failed to act on hundreds of tips about the illegalities of BCCI’s international activities.102

Far less clear is the attitude taken by Wall Street banks towards the miscreant BCCI. The Senate report on BCCI charged however that the Bank of England “had withheld information about BCCI’s frauds from public knowledge for 15 months before closing the bank.”103

CONTINUED...

http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-state-the-deep-state-and-the-wall-street-overworld/5372843



Also explains why what We the People don't seem to ever get what we vote for, IMFO.
Obama vs Hersh [View all] H2O Man May 2015 OP
I have always been, and will always be, against trophy hunting. scarletwoman May 2015 #1
You are right. H2O Man May 2015 #3
The idea of Usama as a trophy is interesting. panader0 May 2015 #7
"....a wishful end to the evil we helped create. KoKo May 2015 #44
I totally agree. Blue_In_AK May 2015 #19
Also very pragmatic. Maedhros May 2015 #51
k&r... spanone May 2015 #2
Thank you! H2O Man May 2015 #4
I agree with you on so many things but here? Governments are in the business of lying... Luminous Animal May 2015 #5
Right. H2O Man May 2015 #6
We do ourselves a great disservice when we excuse yellow journalism of any stripe. OilemFirchen May 2015 #18
Thank you, OilemF. you have the most compelling post on here. Cha May 2015 #21
Perhaps Hentoff was miffed when fired by the Village Voice. OilemFirchen May 2015 #41
Interesting. H2O Man May 2015 #22
Everytime I see violence empoyed in the world, I know you are happy. And here you are goading me Bluenorthwest May 2015 #33
Well all that would be more than acceptable, if we were talking about yellow journalism. sabrina 1 May 2015 #34
I'll thank you not to lecture me about journalism. OilemFirchen May 2015 #35
I refrained from asking YOU not to lecture US about journalism. But back atcha .. and when you do sabrina 1 May 2015 #37
Using a single unnamed source with no known bonafides... OilemFirchen May 2015 #43
Why do you think Bin Laden was in that house, and what do you think of what sabrina 1 May 2015 #45
"Does Hersh think journalists should use this level of sourcing to, say, start a stupid war?.." Cha May 2015 #70
Ah yes ... Mr Naval Intelligence Bob Woodward jakeXT May 2015 #20
Right. H2O Man May 2015 #23
Conspiracy theories always attract those who are suspicious by nature. Major Hogwash May 2015 #72
Thank you, Sir. Your words sum it up. n/t jaysunb May 2015 #8
Thank you. H2O Man May 2015 #10
You're right. Thanks, my friend. nt babylonsister May 2015 #9
Thanks, Buddy. H2O Man May 2015 #11
I guess I'm old fashioned, or maybe a creature of a future where the human race has sabrina 1 May 2015 #12
From Osama bin Laden to Anwar Al-Awlaki (and Abdulrahman Al-Awlaki). OnyxCollie May 2015 #13
"Due process" is now almost as quaint and obsoete as those Geneva Conentions. We need to KingCharlemagne May 2015 #16
Very good. H2O Man May 2015 #24
The reason why forums like this are not NOW fertile ground to discuss Bin Laden sabrina 1 May 2015 #46
Interesting. H2O Man May 2015 #49
I've read a little about OBL back when he was a topic of conversation. It's true that it's almost sabrina 1 May 2015 #50
Very good. H2O Man May 2015 #60
Well, the closest comparison to Bin Laden I can make, would be Lord Edward Fitzgerald, from a sabrina 1 May 2015 #61
Robert Emmet H2O Man May 2015 #62
Because you raise H2O Man May 2015 #63
It makes sense to accept that people and events are as they are. We can't really do otherwise. sabrina 1 May 2015 #77
Mixing of doctrine: H2O Man May 2015 #66
due process is still the law of the land questionseverything May 2015 #53
Only for the little people! We have a two tiered legal system now. sabrina 1 May 2015 #55
i agree the system now has two tiers questionseverything May 2015 #56
I trust Obama 1000x more than I trust Hersh mwrguy May 2015 #14
Well, I'm sure people said that about Nixon and many other leaders too. If it were all sabrina 1 May 2015 #26
Very good! H2O Man May 2015 #30
Wow Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin May 2015 #36
How so? sabrina 1 May 2015 #39
Respectfully disagree. H2O Man May 2015 #48
Very good. H2O Man May 2015 #29
Reinforcing your point is this: MBS May 2015 #42
correct G_j May 2015 #15
Thank you. H2O Man May 2015 #31
The Bin Laden killing definitely has the feel of a clean-up operation. [n/t] Maedhros May 2015 #52
I personally would have preferred to see Bin laden taken alive, tried, sentenced and imprisoned... Spider Jerusalem May 2015 #17
Absolutely. H2O Man May 2015 #32
I just think that no one should ever trust any president, ever. alarimer May 2015 #25
'If these claims were made about the Bush administration, we would elevate Hersh sabrina 1 May 2015 #27
So a German metrology institute runs our leaders? snooper2 May 2015 #38
They do? sabrina 1 May 2015 #40
Interesting points. H2O Man May 2015 #28
I sure as shite don't trust Sy Hersh.. I trust President Obama over that conspiracy theorist with Cha May 2015 #71
beyond assassination (apparently of someone unarmed and surrendering, and now perhaps a MisterP May 2015 #47
Here's what Hersh wrote that makes the Secret Government very, very angry... Octafish May 2015 #54
Very important point. H2O Man May 2015 #58
Absolutely. Octafish May 2015 #64
And just now the CIA has to remind us that Al-Qaeda could bring down a US flight tomorrow jakeXT May 2015 #59
Inside Information is so valuable in fighting terror and in making a buck it can lead to confusion. Octafish May 2015 #65
Very interesting H2O Man May 2015 #68
Reading. Sharing. Discussing. First Amendmenting. Octafish May 2015 #69
One would think that Bin Laden and/or emmbers of family-entourage would have PufPuf23 May 2015 #57
I agree. H2O Man May 2015 #67
Great points, H20 Man, and well-stated. lovemydog May 2015 #73
Very good points. H2O Man May 2015 #74
Thank you sir. lovemydog May 2015 #75
K&R. I always appreciate your precise, rational posts. It was a link to one of your posts in June tblue37 May 2015 #76
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