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In reply to the discussion: Obama vs Hersh [View all]Octafish
(55,745 posts)65. Inside Information is so valuable in fighting terror and in making a buck it can lead to confusion.
Some of why the Secret Government knows how to turn a buck and fight the bad guys more or less:
The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld
By Prof Peter Dale Scott
Global Research, March 10, 2014
The Asia-Pacific Journal, Volume 12, Issue 10, No. 5
EXCERPT...
The Safari Club Milieu: George H.W. Bush, Theodore Shackley, and BCCI
The usual account of this super-agencys origin is that it was
Joseph Trento adds that The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations, With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine..96
Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who were then forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by perhaps the most controversial of them all: Theodore Shackley.
Kevin Phillips has suggested that Bush on leaving the CIA had dealings with the bank most closely allied with Safari Club operations: the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). In Phillips words,
Joseph Trento adds that through the London branch of this bank, which Bush chaired, Adhams petrodollars and BCCI money flowed for a variety of intelligence operations99
It is clear moreover that BCCI operations, like Khashoggis before them, were marked by the ability to deal behind the scenes with both the Arab countries and also Israel.100
It is clear that for years the American deep state in Washington was both involved with and protected BCCI. Acting CIA director Richard Kerr acknowledged to a Senate Committee that the CIA had also used BCCI for certain intelligence-gathering operations.101
Far less clear is the attitude taken by Wall Street banks towards the miscreant BCCI. The Senate report on BCCI charged however that the Bank of England had withheld information about BCCIs frauds from public knowledge for 15 months before closing the bank.103
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http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-state-the-deep-state-and-the-wall-street-overworld/5372843
Also explains why what We the People don't seem to ever get what we vote for, IMFO.
The State, the Deep State, and the Wall Street Overworld
By Prof Peter Dale Scott
Global Research, March 10, 2014
The Asia-Pacific Journal, Volume 12, Issue 10, No. 5
EXCERPT...
The Safari Club Milieu: George H.W. Bush, Theodore Shackley, and BCCI
The usual account of this super-agencys origin is that it was
the brainchild of Count Alexandre de Marenches, the debonair and mustachioed chief of Frances CIA. The SDECE (Service de Documentation Extérieure et de Contre-Espionnage) . Worried by Soviet and Cuban advances in postcolonial Africa, and by Americas post-Watergate paralysis in the field of undercover activity, the swashbuckling Marenches had come to Turkis father, King Faisal, with a proposition . [By 1979] Somali president Siad Barre had been bribed out of Soviet embrace by $75 million worth of Egyptian arms (paid for by Saudi Arabia) .95
Joseph Trento adds that The Safari Club needed a network of banks to finance its intelligence operations, With the official blessing of George Bush as the head of the CIA, Adham transformed the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI), into a worldwide money-laundering machine..96
Trento claims also that the Safari Club then was able to work with some of the controversial CIA operators who were then forced out of the CIA by Turner, and that this was coordinated by perhaps the most controversial of them all: Theodore Shackley.
Shackley, who still had ambitions to become DCI, believed that without his many sources and operatives like [Edwin] Wilson, the Safari Cluboperating with [former DCI Richard] Helms in charge in Tehranwould be ineffective. Unless Shackley took direct action to complete the privatization of intelligence operations soon, the Safari Club would not have a conduit to [CIA] resources. The solution: create a totally private intelligence network using CIA assets until President Carter could be replaced.97
Kevin Phillips has suggested that Bush on leaving the CIA had dealings with the bank most closely allied with Safari Club operations: the Bank of Credit and Commerce International (BCCI). In Phillips words,
After leaving the CIA in January 1977, Bush became chairman of the executive committee of First International Bancshares and its British subsidiary, where, according to journalists Peter Truell and Larry Gurwin in their 1992 book False Profits [p. 345], Bush traveled on the banks behalf and sometimes marketed to international banks in London, including several Middle Eastern institutions.98
Joseph Trento adds that through the London branch of this bank, which Bush chaired, Adhams petrodollars and BCCI money flowed for a variety of intelligence operations99
It is clear moreover that BCCI operations, like Khashoggis before them, were marked by the ability to deal behind the scenes with both the Arab countries and also Israel.100
It is clear that for years the American deep state in Washington was both involved with and protected BCCI. Acting CIA director Richard Kerr acknowledged to a Senate Committee that the CIA had also used BCCI for certain intelligence-gathering operations.101
Later, a congressional inquiry showed that for more than ten years preceding the BCCI collapse in the summer of 1991, the FBI, the DEA, the CIA, the Customs Service, and the Department of Justice all failed to act on hundreds of tips about the illegalities of BCCIs international activities.102
Far less clear is the attitude taken by Wall Street banks towards the miscreant BCCI. The Senate report on BCCI charged however that the Bank of England had withheld information about BCCIs frauds from public knowledge for 15 months before closing the bank.103
CONTINUED...
http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-state-the-deep-state-and-the-wall-street-overworld/5372843
Also explains why what We the People don't seem to ever get what we vote for, IMFO.
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I agree with you on so many things but here? Governments are in the business of lying...
Luminous Animal
May 2015
#5
We do ourselves a great disservice when we excuse yellow journalism of any stripe.
OilemFirchen
May 2015
#18
Everytime I see violence empoyed in the world, I know you are happy. And here you are goading me
Bluenorthwest
May 2015
#33
Well all that would be more than acceptable, if we were talking about yellow journalism.
sabrina 1
May 2015
#34
I refrained from asking YOU not to lecture US about journalism. But back atcha .. and when you do
sabrina 1
May 2015
#37
"Does Hersh think journalists should use this level of sourcing to, say, start a stupid war?.."
Cha
May 2015
#70
I guess I'm old fashioned, or maybe a creature of a future where the human race has
sabrina 1
May 2015
#12
"Due process" is now almost as quaint and obsoete as those Geneva Conentions. We need to
KingCharlemagne
May 2015
#16
The reason why forums like this are not NOW fertile ground to discuss Bin Laden
sabrina 1
May 2015
#46
I've read a little about OBL back when he was a topic of conversation. It's true that it's almost
sabrina 1
May 2015
#50
Well, the closest comparison to Bin Laden I can make, would be Lord Edward Fitzgerald, from a
sabrina 1
May 2015
#61
It makes sense to accept that people and events are as they are. We can't really do otherwise.
sabrina 1
May 2015
#77
Well, I'm sure people said that about Nixon and many other leaders too. If it were all
sabrina 1
May 2015
#26
I personally would have preferred to see Bin laden taken alive, tried, sentenced and imprisoned...
Spider Jerusalem
May 2015
#17
'If these claims were made about the Bush administration, we would elevate Hersh
sabrina 1
May 2015
#27
I sure as shite don't trust Sy Hersh.. I trust President Obama over that conspiracy theorist with
Cha
May 2015
#71
beyond assassination (apparently of someone unarmed and surrendering, and now perhaps a
MisterP
May 2015
#47
And just now the CIA has to remind us that Al-Qaeda could bring down a US flight tomorrow
jakeXT
May 2015
#59