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Response to ucrdem (Reply #21)

Fri May 15, 2015, 07:41 AM

24. sorry, it's just embarrassing watching you push this lame line

 

his record on military use and military spending is among the best in Congress- if not the best. As I said, doesn't make his record without flaws, but the comparison to Hillary's voting record as her spoken record, makes it clear that she is a military hawk. She certainly doesn't deny it now and has emphasized it in the past.

You want to keep pretending that Clinton and Sanders are largely alike re foreign policy and military intervention, have it, keep going with that fiction, but it's silly and obvious to most people, not just here at DU, but in the real world:

If Hillary Clinton wins her party's nomination, she'll be the most hawkish Democratic nominee since the Iraq War began.

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If Clinton skates to victory, she will take a more aggressive approach to world politics, pulling the party in a new direction without much of a debate. And if she were to win the presidency, both the party and American foreign policy itself could change in a big way.

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In mid-2009, then–Secretary of State Clinton was one of the key forces in the Obama administration advocating for a "surge" of new troops to Afghanistan. At the time, Gallup found that 62 percent of Democrats opposed sending more troops to the country.

In March 2011, she argued strongly for intervening to stop Muammar Qaddafi's slaughter of rebels in Libya. At the time, 57 percent of Democrats told Pew the US had no responsibility to stop the killing in Libya.

In 2012, Clinton and General David Petraeus presented Obama with a plan for arming the Syrian rebels fighting Bashar al-Assad's regime. Only a tiny minority of Americans — 11 percent — supported the idea, according to a June 2013 NBC/Wall Street Journal. The poll didn't disclose an exact partisan breakdown, but Democrats and Republicans broadly agreed: "whether you voted for Romney or Obama, they have the same opinion on Syria," Bill McInturff, one of the pollsters who conducted the poll, said.

Clinton doesn't regret these decisions today. In fact, she seems to think they've been vindicated. In her interview with Goldberg, she blamed the rise of ISIS partly on Obama's failure to arm the Syrian rebels in time. She defended the intervention in Libya. She compared the struggle against groups like ISIS and al-Qaeda to the Cold War.

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http://www.vox.com/2015/4/13/8395917/hillary-clinton-hawk

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