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Response to Jackpine Radical (Reply #89)

Fri May 15, 2015, 04:12 PM

93. Most DUers correctly predicted it would create sectarian strife in Iraq.

 

And that is why so many of us called it stupid. It was stupid. It gave rise to ISIS. As we predicted.

And I'm fairly certain the neo-con "masterminds" did not want to create ISIS. In fact, they had one correct prediction too. They predicted our activity in Iraq would cause uprisings throughout the Middle East. It did.

But it wasn't the "noble Arab cowboys of the desert"** overthrowing evil tyrants as they predicted. It was religious fanatics far worse than the tyrants they defeated.


[font size=1]**I know better, but here goes ... for decades Conservatives leaned in support of Arabs. Not too suprising. Republican Party has been a wholey owned subsidiary of the Gas & Oil Industry going back to the Teapot Dome^^ scandal. While Liberals leaned in support of Israel. Equally unsurprising. They were a liberal country, badly outnumbered and the country had been invaded repeatedly.

This -- plus the fact that the United States was pretty much the only country that came into the Middle East, did what we had to do, then left instead of staying on as conquerors@@ -- was why both sides of the conflict looked to the United States as arbitrator.

Enough time has passed since the last Arab invasion of Isreal in 1973 that youner liberals have flipped the other way. They no longer see IP as a small part of IA. Viewed in that lense, the Palestinians are the minority facing an invader. So now a lot of younger liberals back Palestine. While most of us older liberals still view it through the old lens. Hence, all the liberal in-fighting.

While for Conservative rank-and-file everything changed on 9-11. The "noble cowboy of the desert" became the "sand n-----". But neo-con "masterminds" loyalty still lies with the oil. So they still view it through the old lens.


^^ The details of which they now repeat on a regular basis. But it is no longer a scandel. They legalised it.

@@Another reason the Iraq War was stupid. It ruined our reputation in the Middle East. The stupidity was big with that war.
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