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MFrohike

(1,980 posts)
46. The first link
Fri May 15, 2015, 06:28 PM
May 2015

Your first link should be deleted. It's almost 6 years old and has been so completely overtaken by events that it's not even funny. I'll include links of my own.

http://www.commondreams.org/news/2009/12/13/obamas-big-sellout-president-has-packed-his-economic-team-wall-street-insiders

The story under discussion. I couldn't find the original Rolling Stone link, so I hope this will suffice. While it's typical over-the-top Taibbi style, Andrew Leonard's carefully picked complaints are quite noteworthy. Not a word about Gary Gensler in his article. There is a claim that Taibbi called Austan Goolsbee a populist, which the quick use of CTRL-F will decisively disprove. Taibbi said that Goolsbee emphasized populist themes, going so far as to say that AIG executives should receive a Nobel Prize for evil. While it doesn't seem like much of a complaint, bear in mind that Leonard hyped the phrase "could eventually reach" into a definitive statement. What's good for the goose is a good rule to use in this case.

http://www.salon.com/2009/12/11/matt_taibbi_barack_obama/

This is a working link to the original Leonard article. Well, I hope it works. I had to manually search for it. Read the Taibbi piece, then read Leonard's piece. Decide for yourself who's got a bigger problem with the truth.

http://www.levyinstitute.org/publications/29000000000000-a-detailed-look-at-the-feds-bailout-by-funding-facility-and-recipient

For fun, here's a paper from a UMKC grad student on the total cost of the bailout support offered by the Fed. It's actually a bit higher than Barofsky's estimate in 2009.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/suskind-book-female-advisers-in-obama-white-house-sidelined-and-ignored/2011/09/16/gIQAAOSSXK_story.html

Leonard highlighted the role of Christina Romer in his article as a way of refuting Taibbi's claim that Obama's economic team was too close to Wall Street. The link above adds some context to her role on the economic team by way of a review of Ron Suskind's book, Confidence Men.



Edit: I can't speak to the rest of the links. I'm not terribly familiar with the subject under discussion in them. I do have to wonder about them. If the first link was that terrible in terms of its own "truthiness," what would I find if I check the rest?

Matt Taibbi's truthiness analyzed [View all] stevenleser May 2015 OP
Thanks MannyGoldstein May 2015 #1
After all this time you have to ask? Rex May 2015 #42
ayep nt grasswire May 2015 #44
I find it interesting what ''Liberals'' FOX News allows on-air. Octafish May 2015 #63
And here is more stevenleser May 2015 #2
Can we critique any "journalist" we want? DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #3
Attacking me won't change whether Taibbi is dishonest or not. But your ad-hominem is noted. nt stevenleser May 2015 #5
I have no plans to attack you. But with your go-ahead, I'd hold you to the same standard. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #7
And this is new how? Why do you want to change the rules for me? Don't we talk about journalists all stevenleser May 2015 #8
I don't want to change rules for you. Pay attention. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #54
Sure, he'll never sit in the pantheon of journalistic greats whatchamacallit May 2015 #4
K&R MohRokTah May 2015 #6
And with utter disregard about whether it is true and accurate. nt stevenleser May 2015 #9
When you hand feed an audience what they want... MohRokTah May 2015 #10
tell me how you think Taibbi's truthiness compares to that of, oh, say... grasswire May 2015 #45
Let's see... Puglover May 2015 #49
I get it. Taibbi's a paid propagandist, and you're a journalist. foo_bar May 2015 #11
Fascinating that when people are confronted with the truth about Taibbi, they attack me. stevenleser May 2015 #12
I thought I was agreeing with you. foo_bar May 2015 #24
Yeah, you got it.. Taibbi does get money off of his hate infested propaganda against the Cha May 2015 #14
wait, I attacked whom? foo_bar May 2015 #59
Oh man.. I read you wrong.. Sorry! Cha May 2015 #60
Oh I can see this went over well with those who live to smear the President.. but, Cha May 2015 #13
Because he says bad things about your heroes. alarimer May 2015 #15
No. Because he doesn't tell the truth. You defend him because of your agenda, and give him a pass stevenleser May 2015 #16
Well, when one considers where he honed his craft (and he did so while addicted to heroin) one can MADem May 2015 #30
Not true. They're not supporting the Dems who are actually fighting for the people. cui bono May 2015 #38
I *wish* it were ideological. It's purely personality/team driven. Marr May 2015 #50
Agreed. It's all about supporting the party LittleBlue May 2015 #55
No because Taibbi lies his damn head off."You people do not recognize your own cognitive dissonance" Cha May 2015 #62
I lulz'd KG May 2015 #17
Thank you for kicking my OP. nt stevenleser May 2015 #18
"Taibbi is good with rhetoric, but fast and loose with the truth" First comment under Cha May 2015 #19
And I think whoever said that was being generous. stevenleser May 2015 #20
Taibbi is always slamming what he doesn't understand.. there are a lot of people who see through Cha May 2015 #22
I think the word you were looking for was 'rationalized', not 'analyzed'. Marr May 2015 #21
Nope. But you are free to point out specific instances where the analyses of his articles are wrong. stevenleser May 2015 #23
I get it. You don't understand the kind Exilednight May 2015 #25
Hunter would be crucified if he wrote today. randys1 May 2015 #26
I didn't always agree with Hunter, and I often found Exilednight May 2015 #28
You met him? tell me more please randys1 May 2015 #29
A few times. Half the time I was with Exilednight May 2015 #31
Sounds like the persona we know - how were you in his company, why? randys1 May 2015 #33
My father knew him. My dad was a civil rights Exilednight May 2015 #34
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #47
Have the courage off your convictions and him a liar if that's what you mean. DisgustipatedinCA May 2015 #56
Not one poster so far addresses your points. randome May 2015 #27
There's nothing to address. Either you understand what he's trying Exilednight May 2015 #32
Colbert and Stewart don't represent themselves as fact-based journalists. randome May 2015 #35
I know where Matt stands, it just seems that Exilednight May 2015 #37
You know where Matt stands? How nice. So he's not a journalist but an entertainer? KittyWampus May 2015 #41
You and the OP are trying to fit him into Exilednight May 2015 #48
Like when he quotes someone as saying the TARP bailout would cost $23 trillion. randome May 2015 #36
I see that this is way beyond your capacity. Stick with PBS, you'll be happier. Exilednight May 2015 #39
The Size of the Bank Bailout: $29 Trillion Octafish May 2015 #58
"Where is the best economics now being done? UMKC." -- James K. Galbraith Octafish May 2015 #64
They don't care if Taibbi is fact challenged.. his rhetoric is enough to get their juices flowing.. Cha May 2015 #61
This message was self-deleted by its author Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #40
Taibbi is doing his job. None of that shows he's lied. Octafish May 2015 #43
You beat me to it MannyGoldstein May 2015 #52
It's a form of Disinformation, Distraction, Disruption... Octafish May 2015 #53
The first link MFrohike May 2015 #46
I'm glad we have a top notch investigative journalist posting stuff like this. Katashi_itto May 2015 #51
Yep. Too bad he didn't catch on at First Look at Old News ucrdem May 2015 #57
I guess I'm late to the party shawn703 May 2015 #65
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