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DirkGently

(12,151 posts)
43. Fishy logic, I'd say. And part of the problem here.
Sat May 16, 2015, 02:13 PM
May 2015

I can think of no reasonable way anyone could determine that "just over half of cops beat their wives," so that's a specious thing to even conclude. Half of male cops? Half of married male cops? Half of male, married cops where the domestic violence is reported? How would someone even track such a thing?

Cops as a group do have issues statistically of course. The real number, I think is that the domestic violence rate is about double in police families. Alcoholism and suicide are also high. Lawyers statistically drink, doctors and nurses are more likely drug addicts. No demographic, job, religion, or race is safe if we can all read statistics and decide who the "good" and "bad" people are. It's no different than the bigots who want us all to conclude that high rates of "black on black crime" mean a 12-yr-old should expect to be shot dead for holding a toy guy. Domestic violence, by the way, is worst of all for black women in America. Where does "simple logic" take us from there?

I think that whole line of thinking is part of the problem. It urges prejudice and hate and points to no solution.

Again, you can't get rid of "most cops." You can weed out the worst when you find them, but if you want long-term solutions, you need systemic change, not assumptions by anyone about who is "good" and "bad."

Don't forget the horror that is Chicago marym625 May 2015 #1
Nowhere is safe, not even San Francisco. My lawyer friend could tell you stories. randys1 May 2015 #2
Future generations must be taught differently and much better damnedifIknow May 2015 #15
K&R!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2015 #3
'Rare' and 'plentiful' are not opposites. randome May 2015 #4
You are so correct jehop61 May 2015 #10
Wrong. Cops are outliers and not like us at all Exultant Democracy May 2015 #24
I've heard in NJ JustAnotherGen May 2015 #34
Michael Moore did a story on this in the 90s Exultant Democracy May 2015 #38
Who is 'they'? Every one of the 30,000 police departments in the country? randome May 2015 #48
they continue to generalize don't they jehop61 May 2015 #51
What is rare is a good cop! randr May 2015 #5
That's what I thought as soon as I read the headline. kag May 2015 #9
My first drug dealer in highschool was a cop Exultant Democracy May 2015 #25
Heard that all my life Go Vols May 2015 #36
A lot of bad cops - not ALL fadedrose May 2015 #6
The Cato Institute provides daily updates! pocoloco May 2015 #7
Police Misconduct funded by Koch Foundation Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #12
You need look no further than White Supremacists 99th_Monkey May 2015 #14
Led by JBSociety, no doubt. Dont call me Shirley May 2015 #17
interesting site. Calista241 May 2015 #13
Libertarians don't like oppressive states. Comrade Grumpy May 2015 #23
IMO, there are two kinds of cops. Those who shoot to kill and those who watch and/or libdem4life May 2015 #8
true, every word heaven05 May 2015 #11
This article explains a lot, as to the source & origins of the bad cop epidemic 99th_Monkey May 2015 #16
There are also a lot of ex-military who patrolled the streets of Baghdad and Kabul. Fla Dem May 2015 #32
Yes, there are several underlying causations for Cops Murdering Black Males 99th_Monkey May 2015 #39
Kicked and recommended a whole bunch! Enthusiast May 2015 #18
Any place I have worked has had between 10% and 20% of employees A Simple Game May 2015 #19
Just over half of the cops who protect us beat their wives Exultant Democracy May 2015 #29
I did think I was being conservative with the bad cops when I wrote my post. A Simple Game May 2015 #50
It's the 85-90% of bad cops hifiguy May 2015 #20
Give or take 10% your spot on Exultant Democracy May 2015 #31
Yeah. It's only 90% of cops Jackpine Radical May 2015 #33
Let's stop pretending any of it is about "bad ones" and "good ones." DirkGently May 2015 #21
Bravo! That's exactly it.... Moonwalk May 2015 #22
+ a brazillion! nt tblue37 May 2015 #27
Just over half of cops beat their wives, most are bad Exultant Democracy May 2015 #28
Fishy logic, I'd say. And part of the problem here. DirkGently May 2015 #43
Well you as much as concede the point Exultant Democracy May 2015 #44
Whoa. No. Even worse math there, and still the logic of bigotry. DirkGently May 2015 #45
Well the slight over 50% of women married to cops being beat Exultant Democracy May 2015 #46
Only if your unsupported number proves your illogical conclusion. DirkGently May 2015 #49
I agree FLPanhandle May 2015 #35
Make the offending LEO's pay the lion share of the settlements, bet this shit would stop overnight uponit7771 May 2015 #26
Even one is too many. Fearless May 2015 #30
I never say that. Iggo May 2015 #37
A lot of these guys were raised on the show "Cops"... Spitfire of ATJ May 2015 #40
And I think the National Rifle Asshats and our loose gun laws have a lot to do with this. Initech May 2015 #41
as far as i am concerned barbtries May 2015 #42
Bad professionals will be found anywhere we decide to starve a profession... Orsino May 2015 #47
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