What is silly is your attempt to ignore his actual vote (Reply #106)

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106. What is silly is your attempt to ignore his actual vote

You seem to want us to believe that what Rand Paul says is more important than what he actually does.

Rand Paul may have given lip service to my side, but it was your side that he stood with when it came time to vote.

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121 replies	Author	Time	Post
Guess which "national spokesman on the issue of sovereignty" opposed TPA? [View all]	ucrdem	May 2015	OP
I can see your rand and raise you by a 1,000	cali	May 2015	#1
When the going gets tough, Obama gets to push the rock up the hill by himself.	ucrdem	May 2015	#3
what does that have to do with YOU trying to misrepresent who stands	cali	May 2015	#6
So you don't actually care what the TPA is or is not, only who's promoting it?	Scootaloo	May 2015	#28
Both. TPA is necessary because the trade deals are inevitable.	ucrdem	May 2015	#37
Job Killing trade deals are only inevitable	Joe Turner	May 2015	#115
TPP was under negotiation before the US got involved.	ucrdem	May 2015	#116
Trade has nothing to do with TPP, Nafta, Cafta	Joe Turner	May 2015	#118
TPP is definitely about trade.	ucrdem	May 2015	#119
TPP is about trade as NAFTA is about trade	Joe Turner	May 2015	#120
it doesn't matter what is done so long as there is doing?	Scootaloo	May 2015	#121
He doesn't need Congress' approval.	Major Hogwash	May 2015	#31
I think you're right about the negotiations at least.	ucrdem	May 2015	#38
Poor, put-upon Barack Obama.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#44
Guess who supports Obama on that uphill push? Mitch McConnell, any idea WHY he	sabrina 1	May 2015	#80
He's the majority leader and it's bipartisan legislation.	ucrdem	May 2015	#88
you asked for it, uc, pal.	cali	May 2015	#2
I'm proud to say that I do not stand with Rand.	ucrdem	May 2015	#4
YOU stand with Ted Cruz, my dear- and people and organizations even worse.	cali	May 2015	#8
Actually I don't. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#9
yeah, sure do.You're on the same side	cali	May 2015	#10
You don't get to have it both ways	Cal Carpenter	May 2015	#11
It's a clever way of uncloseting witches	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#16
No, it is YOU who want it both ways - you, evidently, stand with the GOP. Hmmmmm......	djean111	May 2015	#17
Your cognitive dissonance is extraordinary.	neverforget	May 2015	#22
What dissonance?	ucrdem	May 2015	#24
Yeah, you do.	Scootaloo	May 2015	#29
Yes, you do. If you can post this OP and make your accusations, it's only fair	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2015	#53
TMI. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#54
I'm not the one in bed. That'd be you, sport-o.	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2015	#55
On TPA you stand with the Democratic base, particularly its liberal wing.	pampango	May 2015	#14
Thanks pampango . . .	ucrdem	May 2015	#18
this just isn't true. the polls may not have caught up	cali	May 2015	#26
I am waiting for the polls to 'catch up'. I expect they will but have not as of yet.	pampango	May 2015	#33
Well, I'll be damned!	Major Hogwash	May 2015	#32
Actually you do stand with Rand	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#56
Flipper flipped but dolphins don't stand. So no. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#57
Congratulations on winning Rand Paul to your side	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#62
Let's see, the Democratic president I voted for four times supports it.	ucrdem	May 2015	#64
Yes, and Rand Paul and Ted Cruz also support TPA	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#69
Sometimes people do the right thing for the wrong reason. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#70
So you think that Rand Paul and Ted Cruz are doing the right thing?	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#74
I think the vote on TPA should have been unanimous, yes. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#77
So you believe the majority of Senate Democrats are wrong and all Senate Republicans are correct?	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#81
I believe the vote should have been unanimous, yes. Feel free to ask again though. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#83
No need to ask again, thanks for admitting that you stand with Rand and Ted Cruz on this	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#87
Don't know where you'd get that but glad I was able to help. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#90
That settles it	MannyGoldstein	May 2015	#5
Sometimes it's best to make a clean breast of it. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#7
The truth is that sovereignty IS an issue.	dixiegrrrrl	May 2015	#12
The far-right has been all over the 'national sovereignty vs one-world-government' for decades.	pampango	May 2015	#13
Exactly.	ucrdem	May 2015	#19
If the opposite of globalism is nationalism...	DemocratSinceBirth	May 2015	#39
Liberals favor liberty	Mnpaul	May 2015	#47
You're thinking of libertarianism.	ucrdem	May 2015	#48
Nope	Mnpaul	May 2015	#49
Yes they both derive from latin "liber," adj., free, with a long i	ucrdem	May 2015	#50
The TPP isn't laissez faire capitalism?	Mnpaul	May 2015	#51
29 chapters of regulations are not laissez-faire, no.	ucrdem	May 2015	#52
29 chapters written by the capitalists	Mnpaul	May 2015	#58
how do YOU know there are 29 chapters of regulations?	cali	May 2015	#105
If your point is that drawing conclusions prematurely is dumb, I agree.	ucrdem	May 2015	#108
bzzzt. not my point. that would be loco.	cali	May 2015	#109
What I've read does not support Warren and Sanders' claims. NOTHING	ucrdem	May 2015	#110
what have you read. Be specific and provide links. I'd like to read what you're	cali	May 2015	#111
Links to my TPP threads are easily found in my journal but never mind, here they are:	ucrdem	May 2015	#112
I'll come out and say it - I do care more about the welfare of this country and her citizens than I	Midwestern Democrat	May 2015	#91
If you want to play guilt by association, you lose.	Marr	May 2015	#15
Not the teabaggers. Not Randy. Not the ones in the article.	ucrdem	May 2015	#20
Personally? Sure.	99Forever	May 2015	#21
The OP concerns Reps, not Senators. Thanks tho. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#23
Wrong, again ...	GeorgeGist	May 2015	#25
bwahahahahahaha.. you sure do like to play- poorly. Representative Rand Paul?	cali	May 2015	#27
You really have no idea what you're talking about, do you? /nt	Marr	May 2015	#59
Correction, the article names 5 GOP reps & senators including Randy. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#61
Rand Paul IS a Senator, smart guy.	99Forever	May 2015	#73
Didn't say he wasn't but that's a very flattering emoticon.	ucrdem	May 2015	#78
You jumped MY ass saying it was ABOUT THE HOUSE.	99Forever	May 2015	#103
Right. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#104
Cognitive disonance isn't just for Teabaggers anymore.	99Forever	May 2015	#107
Mr. Flip Flop ended up voting for Obama's Fast Track	nationalize the fed	May 2015	#30
Okay thanks. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#41
"Okay, thanks"? You've just been skewered on your own point.	Marr	May 2015	#60
There are errors in the OP? Please proceed, governor.	ucrdem	May 2015	#67
You claimed that Rand Paul "opposes" the TPA, that is present tense	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#72
Evidently there's little connection between his positions and his votes. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#75
Evidently there is little connection between your headline and reality	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#79
I updated it to reflect his vote. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#82
You may also want to update it to mention that he now supports TPA	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#84
He's made a statement to that effect? Please give a link,	ucrdem	May 2015	#85
He made a vote to that effect, you have already been provided a link upthread.	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#92
So you don't have a link to support your claim. Thanks. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#93
If you really need me to link to this very thread then here you go...	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#95
OP: "I've told leadership I'm a 'no' vote on trade promotion authority," Mr. Paul told the station.	ucrdem	May 2015	#97
But he was not a no vote, he was a yes vote	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#98
A vote is not a statement, no. Congratulations. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#100
A vote is a whole lot more meaningful than a statement	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#101
A vote is not a statement, no. How hard is that to understand?	ucrdem	May 2015	#102
What is silly is your attempt to ignore his actual vote	Bjorn Against	May 2015	#106
Looks like the OP stands with RAND!	pa28	May 2015	#86
Anybody who thinks Paul is opposed to fast track is an idiot	n2doc	May 2015	#34
It's the "CALL TO STUPID."	woo me with science	May 2015	#35
+1	Marr	May 2015	#63
stopped clocks. nt	Erich Bloodaxe BSN	May 2015	#36
Quondam Snowden attorney Bruce Fein also opposes TPA, and most Paul supporters oppose free trade:	ucrdem	May 2015	#40
lol	cali	May 2015	#42
Lori Wallach of Public Citizen in HuffPo, March 2015: Recent polling shows majority support	ucrdem	May 2015	#43
Agree with Rand today... he'll change his mind tomorrow.	mountain grammy	May 2015	#45
Well in the event, today's he's for it.	ucrdem	May 2015	#46
Does that make all the Republicans who support it "Loyal Democrats"?	Tierra_y_Libertad	May 2015	#65
Hooray for the Stopped Clock syndrome.	99Forever	May 2015	#66
...	demmiblue	May 2015	#68
Lovely.	ucrdem	May 2015	#71
Oops! I thought I posted this in the Lounge for teh funnies!	demmiblue	May 2015	#76
I see you recommended your own post, bringing the total to 3.	DisgustipatedinCA	May 2015	#89
Likewise. nt	ucrdem	May 2015	#94
Don't give the Paulbots more material, please	BainsBane	May 2015	#96
Just for you: Some more of your allies:	cali	May 2015	#99
Is this one of those 'I'm in too deep to turn back now' kind of things?	whatchamacallit	May 2015	#113
This thread is hilarious.	pa28	May 2015	#114
I heard republicans (some of them) wipe their asses after they take a dump.	cherokeeprogressive	May 2015	#117

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