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In reply to the discussion: Want to know just how fake some pro-TPP people really are? [View all]pampango
(24,692 posts)61. The reality is that there is a huge disconnect between the republican establishment and base.
That disconnect is apparent when you compare polls of the attitudes of their base with votes of their politicians in congress. I suppose it is little surprise to see that republicans in congress are corrupt and out of touch with their base.
The post you responded to dealt with the opinions of the Democratic base vs that of the republican base. I did not make reference to Democratic senators vs republican senators. You are right in terms of the vote in the senate. I am right in terms of the attitudes of the people in the respective bases as reflected in polls.
The republican base seems to hate almost every international negotiation, agreement and organization from trade agreements to the UN to the WTO to the Arms Trade Treaty to the Disability Rights Treaty to the Cuban diplomatic agreement, I could go on.
Their base wants as little to do with the rest of the world as possible, opposing everything from climate change treaties to immigration reform to all the other international agreements and organizations I listed earlier and more.
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Start with Omar Kahn. Democratic campaign worker from FLA and Crist campaign,
TheNutcracker
May 2015
#1
Agree w U! Anyone who is labelled as a "Democratic campaign worker" for the state of
truedelphi
May 2015
#19
So, the key to whether something is bad for us is whether there is a public protest?
Hoyt
May 2015
#2
Well, no. "Street protests" have heralded every social advance of the past 100 years.
DirkGently
May 2015
#70
The message is garbled gobbledygook. Just another shovel of bullshit on an already tall pile.
Buzz Clik
May 2015
#28
The Vietnam protests drew puplic interests because the war was wrong. Too young to remember?
L0oniX
May 2015
#16
Didn't say some protests weren't justified. I bet I'm twice as old as you, or close to it.
Hoyt
May 2015
#42
Public protest PLUS no media coverage. Remember all the antiwar protests on teevee?
valerief
May 2015
#37
Public polling by the Pew Research Center polling doesn't support your assertion
cheapdate
May 2015
#82
Then start showing me a reasonable and well thought out policy position.
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2015
#8
Then maybe you shouldn't write posts that suggest people don't need to exercise their rights.
DisgustipatedinCA
May 2015
#13
And yet, the Bundy freaks are more legitimate than the online pro-TPP astroturf shills
brentspeak
May 2015
#9
the overtly disdainful communication style of authoritarians perplexes me
carolinayellowdog
May 2015
#23
"There is no actual public support for the TPP." That's not what the polls show.
pampango
May 2015
#17
Either that or Democrats view international negotiations and agreements as the way to deal
pampango
May 2015
#50
The reality is that there is a huge disconnect between the republican establishment and base.
pampango
May 2015
#61
So you stand with the Republican Establishment (this time? lol), against the DEMOCRATIC base. nt
Romulox
May 2015
#66
I understand that the Democratic base supports it according to the polls. It is the republican base
pampango
May 2015
#68
don't give 'em any ideas, they have the dough to hire like a million people to march on the Mall
MisterP
May 2015
#18
And then there are those who are only for it because Barack Obama is for it. And
totodeinhere
May 2015
#24
And there are plenty of Republicans who have that attitude. But I think that
totodeinhere
May 2015
#100
You know very well there have been leaked details, and that's what people object to.
Marr
May 2015
#87
A stretch if you ask me - I haven't seen any public rallies in favor of air recently, either!
George II
May 2015
#31
There are, however, protests about dirty air almost daily somewhere in the US.
BillZBubb
May 2015
#36
Democrats are mindless Obama cheerleaders. Right-wing talk radio needs to expose this right away!
pampango
May 2015
#62
Yep. So many stand with the corporations and then claim to stand with the exploited.
raouldukelives
May 2015
#83
Holy shit-- well, at least you're being honest here. CEO's = important, workers = not
Marr
May 2015
#88
Also in the 2012 Republican Party Platform- so you could say it's Buy-Partisan
nationalize the fed
May 2015
#44