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arcane1

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9. He mentioned it on Meet the Press and said why he might vote for it
Sun May 31, 2015, 10:06 PM
May 2015

CHUCK TODD: I know you're going to be flying back form Minneapolis to Washington for this Special Senate Session. The PATRIOT Act, the NSA, section 215, I assume you are a supporter of the USA Freedom Act. Are you?

BERNIE SANDERS: I may well be voting for it. It does not go as far as I would like it to go. I voted against the original PATRIOT Act and against the re-authorization of the PATRIOT Act.

We have got to be vigorous about defending the American people and we have to do it in a way that protects their Constitutional rights, and I am very very worried, what we are seeing not only from not only the NSA and the government, but from corporate America...

Privacy rights, it is a huge issue. I am not comfortable with it, but we have to look at the best of bad situations.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2015/05/31/bernie_sanders_on_usa_freedom_act_i_may_well_be_voting_for_it_does_not_go_far_enough.html


(thanks to Jefferson23 for the link: http://www.democraticunderground.com/10026759863#post4)

Didn't he vote against it originally, when that vote was hardest, and also against the first merrily May 2015 #1
Specifically which law did he vote for? mythology May 2015 #10
Technically it was a vote to limit debate or cloture. DCBob May 2015 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author TDale313 May 2015 #7
thank you for that clarification. merrily Jun 2015 #107
Yeah I know people don't get this LynneSin Jun 2015 #162
The USA Freedom Act has not been voted on. peecoolyour May 2015 #3
Ahhh ... now I get it! 99Forever May 2015 #6
"shit-stirring chump" Jesus Malverde May 2015 #17
The 17 who voted "Nay" on this PROCEDURAL VOTE were all Republicans. scarletwoman May 2015 #67
The "Freedom Act" ends the surveillance as I understand it. JDPriestly May 2015 #80
Doesn't end anything bl968 May 2015 #100
JDPriestly is one of the most informative and level headed posters on DU. cui bono Jun 2015 #137
If the phone company keeps the records and the NSA/CIA/contractor, etc. has to get a specific warran JDPriestly Jun 2015 #147
Gee, I guess all the disgruntled people on this thread will be voting for one of those Republicans? merrily Jun 2015 #120
The amount of misinformation in this thread is mind-boggling. scarletwoman Jun 2015 #123
I can't say I am 100% sure what happened or why, but I'm willing to try to find out before I start merrily Jun 2015 #127
Our low information voters number in the tens at least BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #132
PS Please see also Replies 75, 95 and 121, esp. 95. merrily Jun 2015 #128
Bernie explained why he would vote for this tonight on Meet the Press. sabrina 1 May 2015 #84
Chuck Toad was "considerate" enough to put Sanders on the spot about this. merrily Jun 2015 #108
"Guess some shit-stirring chump, was trying to do a smear job." I expect nothing but personal Cha Jun 2015 #150
Procedural votes that gave the legislation legs Jesus Malverde May 2015 #11
The only thing this vote (77-17) did was end debate. peecoolyour May 2015 #20
Actually it stopped any chance of a filibuster Jesus Malverde May 2015 #25
Jesus, is this the bill you are talking about: JDPriestly May 2015 #83
It is on the freedom nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #88
The procedural vote pushes the House version up, & knocks down NSA bulk surveillance HereSince1628 May 2015 #23
Why? What was the logic? TDale313 May 2015 #4
Okay. I'll see what he has to say about that vote. I don't like it one bit. 99Forever May 2015 #5
O'Malley voted Nay bigwillq May 2015 #8
How Clintonian... Joe the Revelator May 2015 #12
Perfect! 99Forever May 2015 #13
He mentioned it on Meet the Press and said why he might vote for it arcane1 May 2015 #9
Hmmm.. a compromise vote. DCBob May 2015 #14
O'Malley was an executive… like the office of President. Not a career politician in Washington. KittyWampus May 2015 #22
***Career politician*** BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #133
without many, many votes that can be cherry-picked, like Sanders and Clinton. KittyWampus Jun 2015 #155
Not being current Senators, Paka May 2015 #86
extremely disappointing. Going to O'Malley's website now to have a look. nationalize the fed May 2015 #15
Well, you for sure won't find anything, since he's not a Senator. scarletwoman Jun 2015 #110
LOL. n/t FSogol Jun 2015 #167
The limited debate procedure gives cover to Senators. MohRokTah May 2015 #16
Not much. Major Hogwash May 2015 #18
In days gone past, the cloture vote was enough cover. MohRokTah May 2015 #19
At least Bernie had the decency not to vote for a war based entirely on lies that KingCharlemagne Jun 2015 #105
I have yet to agree with any politician 100% neverforget Jun 2015 #109
No, he voted for limited debate nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #21
He voted to give the legislation a second chance. Jesus Malverde May 2015 #24
75-13... how exactly do you reconcile that? nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #26
That he voted with the majority to limit a filibuster Jesus Malverde May 2015 #27
Let's assume for a second he voted against it nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #28
60 MohRokTah May 2015 #31
Whats that have to do with Bernies vote? Jesus Malverde May 2015 #34
I am, I am calling you on your dishonesty nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #36
IT is no different than voting for cloture. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #38
This message was self-deleted by its author olddots May 2015 #70
Partisans. Gotta love 'em nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #174
IOW, his vote did not matter, even for cloture? Please see Reply 108. merrily Jun 2015 #113
Once They got over 60 it was irrelevant. nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #173
Plus, there is no longer a 60 vote threshold because there is no longer a cloture vote. MohRokTah May 2015 #29
Dishonest argument over a procedural vote nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #32
It's the same argument as with a cloture vote. MohRokTah May 2015 #35
like most democrats nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #37
The nly way to stop the bill was for it to fail cloture. MohRokTah May 2015 #41
It is not as black and white as you would like to pretend this is nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #43
So Bernie Sanders is the ONLY Senator who gets a pass on a cloture vote of a bill we don't like. MohRokTah May 2015 #44
More dishonesty nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #45
I further guarantee, 60 will not vote on the final bill. MohRokTah May 2015 #46
That is your convenient narrative nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #49
Then Give Obama a pass for promoting it. MohRokTah May 2015 #50
More twisting of words nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #52
It's reality. Sanders dumped principle for expediency. MohRokTah May 2015 #53
More popcorn nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #55
. MohRokTah May 2015 #58
What expediency? His vote made absolutely no difference. cui bono Jun 2015 #140
+1 cui bono Jun 2015 #139
Obama didn't just promote it, he extended it in 2011. cui bono Jun 2015 #141
Hillary voted for the Patriot Act in 2001. She voted in favor of a compromise renewed act Autumn Jun 2015 #159
77 yeas, 17 mays, 6 not voting. Bernie could have easily stayed out of town and made it 7. Not a merrily Jun 2015 #129
Message auto-removed Name removed Jun 2015 #166
Actually, so far, out of 77 Senators, he's the only one you're blaming, so just about the opposite merrily Jun 2015 #115
+1 cui bono Jun 2015 #142
What cloak of purity? cui bono Jun 2015 #138
His vote insured nothing. It was not the 60th vote or even close. merrily Jun 2015 #114
Not really...he feels that Amendments can be made to the Freedom Act...... KoKo May 2015 #39
. MohRokTah May 2015 #48
Does anybody see the list of how all the Senators voted on this? Where to find. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #30
The senate should have posted it by now nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #33
Here nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #40
Thank You! The only people voting No seem to be a few Tea Party people. All the Dems voted Yes Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #61
Exactly nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #63
Bernie could have voted in either direction. For folks to say he's cut from a different cloth Sheepshank May 2015 #90
Except that if he voted NAY nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #91
So Bernie Cheer team got what they wanted with the man who can do no wrong? N/t Sheepshank May 2015 #94
He voted with every democrat nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #98
That just what I said the first time...he's not all that different. Sheepshank Jun 2015 #101
Nah nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #102
Yeah, if he had voted with the teapartiers, we would have heard... Art_from_Ark Jun 2015 #149
I'm not sure if he could have voted either way. merrily Jun 2015 #117
Yes, because as we all know, one action defines an entire human being. cui bono Jun 2015 #143
Just the same as those complaining about HRC and her Goldwater connection when she was 17!! Sheepshank Jun 2015 #165
The Goldwater connection needs to die. People change. I want to know what she thinks today. cui bono Jun 2015 #175
you are right.... Sheepshank Jun 2015 #177
Actually, the count was such that his vote was moot, it made no difference to the outcome, typical Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #168
and since that is true...why not vote with the standards he portrays? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #169
Susan Collins is further left than a few Democratic Senators JonLP24 Jun 2015 #156
From the reactions to your thread... MohRokTah May 2015 #42
Strange world..nt Jesus Malverde May 2015 #47
He would not get a pass... SoapBox May 2015 #54
He threw out principle for expediency. MohRokTah May 2015 #56
Every Democrat voted yes on it. Just a handful of Republicans voted no. Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #62
It's cover. MohRokTah May 2015 #65
No he's probably voting for it, he said so on TV today. Every Democrat voted yes today Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #68
Cover, like I said. eom MohRokTah May 2015 #71
Post removed Post removed May 2015 #72
So he has endorsed MY CANDIDATE nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #74
LOL Ok then Cheese Sandwich May 2015 #75
DING, DING. DING nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #76
Absolutely Scootaloo May 2015 #81
You called it. Paka May 2015 #89
Thread win, though Reply 95 is no slouch. merrily Jun 2015 #125
And... aspirant Jun 2015 #131
Yep! Thespian2 Jun 2015 #104
Truth. ^ cui bono Jun 2015 #146
For what expediency? How did his one vote accomplish expediency? cui bono Jun 2015 #145
DING, DING, DING nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #57
Spot on aintitfunny May 2015 #96
+1 uponit7771 May 2015 #77
From your reactions... the ONLY senator to blame for a cloture vote is Bernie Sanders. cui bono Jun 2015 #144
Lie. PowerToThePeople May 2015 #51
Did his vote not limit the ability of other senators to filibuster the law? Jesus Malverde May 2015 #60
I am not going to repeat what Nadin has stated many times above. PowerToThePeople Jun 2015 #103
Some here catnhatnh May 2015 #59
This message was self-deleted by its author 1000words May 2015 #64
Hey, I had to write a story on this nadinbrzezinski May 2015 #66
I will not denigrate a fellow Democrat. DemocratSinceBirth May 2015 #69
And Emoprog Golden Boy Rand Paul voted for it last November... Blue_Tires May 2015 #73
Emoprog Jesus Malverde May 2015 #87
So an redassed emoprog spun the definition at UD... Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #106
O RYL? Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #111
Bravo...You've got enough cognitive capacity to utilize DU's search function Blue_Tires Jun 2015 #130
Its actually a good word Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #136
Here's the thing. SusanCalvin May 2015 #78
Doesn't matter. From this point forward, all it takes are 51 votes. MohRokTah May 2015 #82
Which bill is in play? JDPriestly May 2015 #85
Thank you for the clarification! SoapBox May 2015 #97
And that would have been so even if Bernie voted nay. You all are so much fun. merrily Jun 2015 #118
That kind of blind devotion is highly criticized here on DU..... Sheepshank May 2015 #93
Um, no Bernie supporter on this thread gave blind devotion. All are trying to figure out what merrily Jun 2015 #121
Ahhh so Obama rarely deserves similar future explanation, but Bernie does? Sheepshank Jun 2015 #179
At its finest? You must be kidding. You've never seen anything like that and well beyond on DU merrily Jun 2015 #180
"I trust that Bernie has a good reason and will explain it and stand behind it. " Sheepshank Jun 2015 #181
Yes, it's the glaring Hypocrisy.. when they whine about others standing up for who they believe in Cha Jun 2015 #148
To my recollection, I have not "whined." nt SusanCalvin Jun 2015 #153
Key words in your post: cui bono Jun 2015 #178
For you Jesus Malverde William769 May 2015 #79
+100 SoapBox May 2015 #99
IOKIYB Bobbie Jo Jun 2015 #170
He did? workinclasszero May 2015 #92
Again for emphasis! TM99 May 2015 #95
Thank you. Couldn't be more obvious if they tried. Please see also Replies 108 and 121. merrily Jun 2015 #124
O.F.F.S. progressoid Jun 2015 #112
WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN!!! beam me up scottie Jun 2015 #135
Well, the Democrats voted en masse nilesobek Jun 2015 #116
Thanks for the comment. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #119
They did? davidpdx Jun 2015 #158
Are you saying that our Democrats all read every line nilesobek Jun 2015 #189
No, you are implying that ALL the Democrats in Congress at the time did not read the Patriot Act davidpdx Jun 2015 #190
Well I'm sorry Davidpdx. nilesobek Jun 2015 #191
Purity trolling Bernie now?!? ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2015 #122
Yes, but most of the purity trolling of Bernie is coming from Hillary supporters, which is merrily Jun 2015 #126
Yes! Purity trolling! Thank you! And yes! From the "usual screamers"!!! cui bono Jun 2015 #176
Um, I don't think the OP, "Jesus Malverde" is a big Clinton supporter... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2015 #185
This is the second thread on this line nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #186
Well he's certainly not a Bernie supporter. I was agreeing with you about the purity trolls. cui bono Jun 2015 #187
Well, not for anti-Bernie threads ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2015 #188
Legitimate criticism is not purity trolling. cui bono Jun 2015 #192
I rarely see such admissions by purity trolls... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2015 #193
If what you say is true, one would be able to point out a purity troll. cui bono Jun 2015 #194
Your lack of self-awareness is astounding ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2015 #195
Oh my... this reminds me of our last go around... cui bono Jun 2015 #196
"the last two Dem presidents, both of whom enacted centrist/Republican policies" ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2015 #197
So now you're saying that Obama is "being deliberately disingenuous or truly is delusional. cui bono Jun 2015 #198
You clearly have reading comprehension issues... ConservativeDemocrat Jun 2015 #199
Thanks for the laugh BrotherIvan Jun 2015 #134
Now that the dust has settled some, it seems Sanders made a vote for cloture that did not affect merrily Jun 2015 #151
So he compromised principles? BumRushDaShow Jun 2015 #152
Agree with with most of that. Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #154
Much ado about nothing! B Calm Jun 2015 #157
This thread lost any relevance it had when someone asked how O'Malley and Clinton voted. djean111 Jun 2015 #160
Wow ...he voted with the Democrats? Whodathunkit. L0oniX Jun 2015 #161
Really? A thread like this I would expect from a Faux News Host LynneSin Jun 2015 #163
Cloture means no filibuster Jesus Malverde Jun 2015 #164
Not gonna happen. jeff47 Jun 2015 #171
That is very disappointing LittleBlue Jun 2015 #172
A melodramatic lack of knowledge of relevant senate procedures can make a lot of people look rather LanternWaste Jun 2015 #182
You are way too kind nadinbrzezinski Jun 2015 #184
HAHAHA 9 recs. FlatBaroque Jun 2015 #183
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