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Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
53. When Sports Illustrated does a cover of a 65 year old actual athlete in a one piece, call me.
Wed Jun 3, 2015, 11:11 AM
Jun 2015

That's as deep as I'm going with this bullshit.

I don't think there's anything wrong with anyone choosing to display their body on a magazine cover Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #1
Hmmm... This could get good Gman Jun 2015 #2
Of course there's nothing wrong with either. People just don't get that. Nt Logical Jun 2015 #3
Let's see the answers. RiffRandell Jun 2015 #4
so you're not sure what the difference is between Caitlyn Jenner's magazine cover geek tragedy Jun 2015 #37
We subscribe to 2 out of 3 you mentioned and Penthouse isn't one. RiffRandell Jun 2015 #59
you apparently missed the entire point of the Caitlyn Jenner cover geek tragedy Jun 2015 #60
I don't consider VF or SI regardless of the swimsuit issue RiffRandell Jun 2015 #63
the OP was flamebait wallowing in false equivalencies geek tragedy Jun 2015 #67
What a rude post. RiffRandell Jun 2015 #69
Some people are control freaks AgingAmerican Jun 2015 #70
and that's, basically, the bottom line. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #88
"it had no point other than to "nyah nyah nyah" at feminists" TerrapinFlyer Jun 2015 #114
No, there is no hypocrisy, that is the point. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #115
Referring SI as a T&A magazine shows your ignorance in advertising and marketing TerrapinFlyer Jun 2015 #116
Yeah, the SI swimsuit cover with three models pointing their ass cheeks geek tragedy Jun 2015 #117
So you are the judge for what is art?????? TerrapinFlyer Jun 2015 #120
You're free to insist your precious skin mags are 'art' and equal to geek tragedy Jun 2015 #124
"precious skin mags"... yeah. It is very clear where your mind is at. TerrapinFlyer Jun 2015 #127
This message was self-deleted by its author geek tragedy Jun 2015 #128
Why cant art and social consciousness be about sex and sexuality? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #121
They can be and often are. geek tragedy Jun 2015 #122
I wouldnt know Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #123
"itchy fingers" Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #112
Well I think ornotna Jun 2015 #5
I don't see the similarity fishwax Jun 2015 #6
Well, they are both massively Photoshopped Kelvin Mace Jun 2015 #7
This post was alerted on. I cannot imagine why. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #8
I can. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #15
You don't need much of an imagination either Major Nikon Jun 2015 #19
Predictable ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2015 #20
The polite thing to do is post the results Capt. Obvious Jun 2015 #30
Done. guillaumeb Jun 2015 #82
The amount of skin revealed is quite different. WinkyDink Jun 2015 #9
Some people got really mad about Laverne Cox posing nearly nude for Allure, too. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #10
I have the context for you... CTyankee Jun 2015 #68
My point is, if Caitlyn Jenner, Laverne Cox, or anyone else chooses to take some or all of their Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #85
what is difficult is that we are talking about both aesthetic issues and political issues. CTyankee Jun 2015 #90
I would also like to ask you again about the context of the ancient Indian art you posted. CTyankee Jun 2015 #92
A lot of ancient cultures didn't have the distinction between sexuality and the sacred, that we do. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #95
I have absolutely no distinction between sexuality and the sacred. CTyankee Jun 2015 #96
Meaning is subjective, isn't it? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #97
"deeply felt lust" is not the question to me. CTyankee Jun 2015 #99
I think one of the biggest objections to the definition of "art" as it stands today Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #100
and it is ever thus. Look at the history of art and you see how this is played out. CTyankee Jun 2015 #103
Absolutely. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #104
I am fascinated by the implications of Pollack's "Full Fathom Five" and Johns "Flag". CTyankee Jun 2015 #107
Sure, and Magritte is getting at something pretty fundamental with that "pipe" that is not a pipe. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #108
"How is the current cover of Vanity Fair any different than the swimsuit edition of SI?" Snobblevitch Jun 2015 #11
Good answer Person 2713 Jun 2015 #58
Jenner is an actual sports figure JI7 Jun 2015 #12
And Vanity Fair is anything but a Sports Magazine. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #14
Nothing is wrong with either of them. peecoolyour Jun 2015 #13
Didn't the SI swimsuit model look as if she was about to rub one out? WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #16
The big DU battle over the SI cover took place with the '14 issue IIRC Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #18
Followed by the Kate Upton zero-G video -- it was just too much for DU. aikoaiko Jun 2015 #32
Fond memory! Nt Logical Jun 2015 #40
Ah, right, Thong-gate. Or whatever it was called. (n/t) WorseBeforeBetter Jun 2015 #110
Just looked at both covers. LuvLoogie Jun 2015 #17
This article might clarify a bit ismnotwasm Jun 2015 #21
Why do you bring this up? cui bono Jun 2015 #22
"The SI issues will cause men to jerk off". Nailed it, right there. Nye Bevan Jun 2015 #25
Not me pintobean Jun 2015 #33
Apparently now masturbation is another cultural crisis. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #98
LOL snooper2 Jun 2015 #44
Was the SI cover featuring a transwoman/transwomen? LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #23
^^^^^ This. Iggo Jun 2015 #26
+1000000000000000 nailed it. Thread over. nt geek tragedy Jun 2015 #38
Well said! City Lights Jun 2015 #42
+1,000,000 cui bono Jun 2015 #74
Thank you Warpy Jun 2015 #77
much better questions than the OP Kali Jun 2015 #78
Then why did the same anti-nudity, pro-censorship people bodyshame Laverne Cox? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #101
"I think being proud of ones' sex, sexuality, and sexiness is an unqualified good ...." prayin4rain Jun 2015 #105
I think as far as the '14 SI issue went, the 3 women on the beach looked pretty happy to be there. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #106
Agreed and I have a new annoyance busting mental mantra, thanks! haha n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #109
I remember this song from the kids' CDs I used to have playing constantly Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #111
Awesomeness prayin4rain Jun 2015 #113
Anyone who does that is wrong LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #118
In the Ms. Cox photoshoot, she's pretty much entirely nude. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #119
I completely agree that there are indeed people like that LostOne4Ever Jun 2015 #133
This was already discussed in that thread. prayin4rain Jun 2015 #24
Every magazine portrays the cover model as a commodity. Orrex Jun 2015 #27
Most fashion magazine covers try to commodify the idea that prayin4rain Jun 2015 #41
I'm reluctant to re-hash the various SI threads, but a different interpretation is possible. Orrex Jun 2015 #51
The promotion of the idea that women are for sex and/or male entertainment prayin4rain Jun 2015 #57
Lots to unpack there. Orrex Jun 2015 #71
So full of off topic strawmen, I can't see any point in responding. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #73
It's clear that it's easier for you to see it that way. Orrex Jun 2015 #75
A good majority of your post is about the male and female prayin4rain Jun 2015 #76
Then you need to define "pornorgraphy" Orrex Jun 2015 #79
Whether it is a tiny sliver of the regular pornography prayin4rain Jun 2015 #80
Well, then it's simple Orrex Jun 2015 #89
Yep, and I don't consent to look, so get it off the grocery store prayin4rain Jun 2015 #91
You're kidding, right? Orrex Jun 2015 #93
I can't know that is there without looking. Also, my child isn't a grown up. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #94
When I made that same point upthread, you called it a straw man and ignored it Orrex Jun 2015 #125
Context is not your strong suit. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #129
Nor is logic yours. Orrex Jun 2015 #131
Haha, ok. n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #132
You have nailed it, prayin! But I have done further thinking on this... CTyankee Jun 2015 #28
One major difference between these two trios and the one on the SI issue in 2014 KitSileya Jun 2015 #46
I remember the 2014 cover. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #52
I know little about ancient Indian art, but is this the sacred art of the temple? CTyankee Jun 2015 #62
Ah, I see you missed it. KitSileya Jun 2015 #64
sure. Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #84
What Bernini did in sculpture with the "Rape of Persephone" is another example of what art CTyankee Jun 2015 #86
It is so interesting....the role of context, perspective and experience prayin4rain Jun 2015 #49
Duchamp's Fountain differed from Warhol's Brillo boxes and soup cans in one important way. CTyankee Jun 2015 #61
Interesting read, thanks! n/t prayin4rain Jun 2015 #66
Thank you. +1 nt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #48
Jon Stewart addressed this a bit last night. Erich Bloodaxe BSN Jun 2015 #29
When considering the SI cover art, please read my post #28. CTyankee Jun 2015 #31
It was done to show Jenner treestar Jun 2015 #34
It is quite an interesting photo. I think Liebovitz did a fine job of displaying CTyankee Jun 2015 #39
I was also put in mind of old swimsuit pinup graphics. The sort that would be called "erotic" KittyWampus Jun 2015 #43
Liebovitz has a cred/reputation too treestar Jun 2015 #45
Do you remember the photo she did of a naked John Lennon curling up with Yoko, CTyankee Jun 2015 #83
"just want to throw some hypocrisy in a few faces" geek tragedy Jun 2015 #35
Photoshop is evil Democat Jun 2015 #36
People can't be this stupid. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #47
It's just bait. If the OP actually wants to LEARN there are certainly enough non-dense people in seaglass Jun 2015 #50
people can get all deeply wrought out about a magazine cover showing 3 women smiling on a beach Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #54
Unfortunately, the op really doesn't surprise me much either. nt. NCTraveler Jun 2015 #55
My comments have been limited to the question of whether the SI cover was just as much CTyankee Jun 2015 #65
People also seem to milk that scenario for all it's worth in order to continue validating their bias LanternWaste Jun 2015 #72
what do you have against dairy farmers? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #87
Socks can. NuclearDem Jun 2015 #81
THAT CAT IS STILL ALIVE? Warren DeMontague Jun 2015 #102
When Sports Illustrated does a cover of a 65 year old actual athlete in a one piece, call me. Bluenorthwest Jun 2015 #53
not for me I don't read or look at either magazine olddots Jun 2015 #56
If you want to sell magazines ... this is how you do it. YOHABLO Jun 2015 #126
Larry Wilmore pointed out that Caitlin Jenner was the oldest woman to ever appear on the cover of VF applegrove Jun 2015 #130
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